In your heart of hearts, who do you really think is in charge?

[Bossy Monkey]

Obviously there's a degree of overlap between the various groups. If you think the answer is more than one of the above, I guess you could reply as such below and specify which.

So far resisting the urge to put on the Jeff Beck Group.

Poop on the CNP (which, come to think of it, is an outstanding idea): http://www.au.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=6949&abbr=cs_

Edit: Some guy in Flagstaff named Woody replaced by Karl Rove (which is also an oustanding idea)

EditEdit: The Bilderberg Group replaced by PNAC

[Maple]

1. As far as I can tell

NOBODY is in charge.

There are just a few gawkers standing around winging it, without any idea of what they are doing.

They seem to depend on old movie plots...John Wayne westerns and war stories...for their basic stance, but that's about it. The rest is ad libbed.

[Warren DeMontague]

22. That's the most frightening conspiracy theory I've ever fucking heard.

Please- give me PNAC, Freemasons, The Catholic Church, P2, The Illuminati, Cthulu, evil canine aliens from the dog star, Sirius.. ANYTHING.

But just don't tell me NO ONE IS RUNNING THE SHOW, AT ALL!!! Noooooo! Aeeeeeeeeee!

[rzemanfl]

25. I agree with you. If someone or some group were in CHARGE

then there would be someone or some group RESPONSIBLE and that is not the case. The country gets attacked despite numerous warnings, nobody's fault...they start a war they can't win based on bullshit and rosy predictions, nobody's fault.

They have people in charge of little pieces, but the let's start a war group can't tell the let's cut rich people's taxes group to put things on hold, the kiss the asses of the religous right group can't be told anything by the let's try to maintain the pretense that we respresent the majority group, etc.

[niallmac]

30. Money

I think the 'Liburul Agenduh' could run the show as long as it proved it supported keeping huge concentrations of the nations wealth in the hands of a few. I detest this subject because if I think of it for very long I start to pine for my tin foil hat. It's like 'what is infinity?' All is plausible and impossible at the same time. It's like that quote from JFK, something about an enigma wrapped in a puzzle drenched in creamy milk chocolate and covered with a thin candy shell...I don't have good recall but... Scary! Mommy!:scared:

[niallmac]

31. delete

[niallmac]

32. sorrry...

didn't know I could double post like that...oops

[Bossy Monkey]

33. Not a problem, nor your fault; just a software hiccup. Happens now & again

Welcome to DU (some months late)!

[baby_mouse]

37. I agree

The structure is in charge. They're afraid to challenge the structure so it dominates them.

[mcctatas]

2. Well Duh...

God is in charge silly, he just speaks through George W Bush, you know, gives him sage advice about who to bomb, what lies to tell, how to screw the poor, etc...:sarcasm:

[AmandaRuth]

3. doesn't boosh get a phone call every

week from the evangelicals with their marching orders? I think Cheney takes the orders from the oil companies.

[existentialist]

17. evangelicals

I really think that the evangelicals are silly dupes in this political game. The neocons are driven by short sighted greed, saw a chance to manipulate the evangelicals, and took it, and continue to take it.

[unblock]

4. a secret organization known as "the pentaverate":

the queen, the vatican, the gettys, the rothschilds, and colonel sanders before he went tits up.

ohh i hated the colonel, with his wee beady eyes ... because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes you crave it fortnightly ...!

[Mythsaje]

5. Maybe, just maybe

someone like, oh, I don't know, the guy the Fundies love to hate...

SATAN?

Okay, just kidding. I don't believe in Satan.

But if I did, it would be pretty clear HE was in charge in Washington DC instead of a bunch of inept, corrupt, morally bankrupt individual humans.

Edit because I'm getting too tired to post tonight. And doing it anyway.

[liss681]

9. Satan is in charge...

in D.C. he is known as Karl Rove. :evilgrin:

[Mythsaje]

10. Ah, Rove isn't nearly suave or sophisticated enough...

He's just one of the Greater Minions.

The Big Bad is probably lurking around D.C. in the form of some handsome, debonaire lobbyist while Bush, Rove, and Co. do his dirty work.

:evilgrin:

[Bossy Monkey]

15. Welcome to DU! So honored to see your first post on my thread nt

[liss681]

20. Thanks

As funny as Woody from Flagstaff was, I'm glad you put Rove up...

[newyawker99]

26. Hi liss681!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[existentialist]

6. (Please specify)

Karl Rove

[Bossy Monkey]

8. OK, much as I love the guy named Woody response, nobody's going to

vote for him, so I'll put Karl on instead.

[KitchenWitch]

7. PNAC

[stepnw1f]

12. Bingo!

[Bossy Monkey]

13. OK, sic transit Bilderbergers...

Pretty much going that way in real life anyway.:)

[dchill]

11. Cheney AND Rove ...

And one of their priorities is to make sure that "the dullest knife in the drawer" thinks he's in charge.

[existentialist]

14. Doonesbury

This reminds me of the Doonesbury cartoon where Bush is at a press conference getting his answers from his "bulge" and the interviewer thinks its Karl Rove when its Cheney.

(Who knows, certainly some neocon idiot who wishes no sane person any good.)

[NAO]

16. Large Concentrations of Private Wealth and Power

Not any State or any Government, they are just tools of private wealth and power.

[Allenberg]

28. sounds about right

[datadiva]

18. Secret?

I like 'Some secret directorate drawn from corporate swine from the oil and military contracting industries, a couple televangelists, Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes', I just don't think its all that secret. Their arrogance sickens me. :puke:

[ngGale]

19. Some form of control beyond even Rove, IMO ...

I feel it's many inter-locking groups of wealthy, corporate, and other devious connections. PNAC on Viagra! :scared:

[Swamp Rat]

21. Cheney AND a "secret directorate"

[caligirl]

23. Other: AIPAC

[PA Mamma]

24. I like NAO's answer above...

Large Concentrations of Private Wealth and Power
Not any State or any Government, they are just tools of private wealth and power."

Edit: sleepy typos

[blindpig]

27. a consensus of power centers

which occasionally reveals portions of it's constituency in the Bilderberg Group among other manifestations of the truly powerful. I suspect there is not much vertical organization, the goals and egos of various factions wouldn't allow it. But their common goals, power and domination, maintain the consensus.

[dogday]

29. Daddy Bush has been pulling the strings

all along. Who else has all the experience of the CIA and The White House and Saddam? He gets to help his former company (ok former, right) make money on the war and has the resources for the inside workings of the CIA and the White House... Plus some of his old cabinet is still in the White House....

[Bossy Monkey]

34. Those 43% voting Secret directorate should probably follow the CNP link;

it is they.

[Maru Kitteh]

35. Other: Lobby groups

This will be our challenge in this century. Both sides demonize the others lobby groups and call them "special interests" because it polled really ugly and it works, but we each continue to cuddle up to our own lobbies.

Historically, there have been sick SOB's on both sides. Perhaps if we can find a way to diminish the monetary power of lobbies we can begin to talk again.

Until them? Who's in charge? Big pharma, defense contractors and the meat industry. Sucks.

[bklyncowgirl]

36. People whose names you've never heard ....

and never will hear.

[Pepperbelly]

38. other ... kindly specify...

No one is in charge. Can you look at the total crap these assholes have foisted on the world and believe that an intelligence lies behind it? I cannot. They are reaction machines giving in to whatever special interest that is currently in their limited view.