OK, this is really weird

[WilliamPitt]

This is from a pretty hard-core conspiracy site, and without further investigation I am not in any way endorsing some of the accusations and conclusions that are drawn out in the rest of the article. But this bit is just too weird:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/090705bombingexercises.htm

London Underground Bombing 'Exercises' Took Place at Same Time as Real Attack

Culpability cover scenario echoes 9/11 wargames

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
Prison Planet | July 9 2005

A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th.

On a BBC Radio 5 interview that aired on the evening of the 7th, the host interviewed Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a 'crisis management' advice company, better known to you and I as a PR firm.

Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch.

Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.

The transcript is as follows.

POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.

HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?

POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.

(snip)

This is precisely what happened on the morning of 9/11/2001. The CIA was conducting drills of flying hijacked planes into the WTC and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning.

...more...

It's enough to make you drink, I say.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

1. It's enough to make you drink, I say.

Drink, think, whatever, it is enough to make you believe that they have access to information that they shouldn't.

[LaurenG]

25. Or who really did this?

I've been told by those who claim to know such things that there are NO coincidences.

[jsamuel]

2. Wasn't there something posted recently about the "powder bombs" in 1st WTC

bombing? About it being in the CIA/FBI before hand and the comanding officer wanted to use real ones instead...

This is pritty weird...

[Walt Starr]

3. What it tells me is both MI5 and the CIA have been compromised by

Al Queda.

There are moles in both organizations. It's as plain as the nose on your face.

[Mythsaje]

8. Certainly

ONE possibility.

[lildreamer316]

10. I'll have a drink to that list of yours not getting any longer.

Don't know about you,but I'm getting really tired of funerals.

[Walt Starr]

14. Aye, me too

I feel I have to recognize these DUers, though, but any more and I'll have to start a memorial web page and just link to it in my sig.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[all.of.me]

47. i thought the same thing.........

[Kathy in Cambridge]

19. that's immediately what I thought too, Walt

[lonestarnot]

32. MIHOP... How many think I'm nutso now?

[helderheid]

60. first thing my dad asked me when it happened was

Do you think it was the CIA? He wasn't being sarcastic.

[Walt Starr]

75. I don't buy MIHOP or LIHOP

I just don't see it.

[tavalon]

33. Well, there are plenty of M15 and CIA

moles in the Al Queda organization, so why shouldn't it go both ways.

[Walt Starr]

73. That's how things worked when you had the KGB to worry about

why shouldn't modern intelligence gathering be the same as it always has?

:shrug:

[Im with Rosey]

45. Without sounding paranoid...

That was my first thought as I was reading. I don't know what scares me the most, the thought of seeing conspiracy everywhere I look or realizing it might be true.

[johannes1984]

4. well i'm having a drink after reading that

[unhappycamper]

5. I'm getting my

:tinfoilhat: hat on.

What are the odds of this happening accidentally twice? Could this be another reason why reporters are going to jail?

[IChing]

6. Well you better not post this at the Daily Koss

since CT is out, so let's just call it a coincidence like all the other things that surrounded 9-11.

[GOPisEvil]

7. Alex Jones is about as mad as a hatter, but he is right sometimes.

If this is true...wow...yeah, strong drinks.

[Minstrel Boy]

13. Sometimes Jones is the message. Here he's just the messenger.

If it was nothing but Jones talking out his ass, I wouldn't pay attention. But it's not Jones at all; it's a first-hand account, broadcast by the BBC.

I don't know what it means, or what it adds up to, but it deserves attention.

[doublethink]

22. This might deserve attention too ..... ?

no conclusions, just attention. interesting coincidences anyway....

The claim of responsibility for the London attacks was first posted on one of the dozens of Islamic websites that are routinely monitored by western intelligence services. -snip-

It was posted on an Arabic website, al-qal3ah.com, which is registered by Qalaah Qalaah in Abu Dhabi and hosted by a server in Houston, Texas. -snip-

The server in Houston has intriguing connections. Everyone's Internet was founded by brothers Robert and Roy Marsh -snip-

Renowned for his charitable work, Roy Marsh counts among his friends President George Bush's former sister-in-law, Sharon Bush, and the president's navy secretary. -snip-

article link at The Guardian here ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1524813,00.html

Peace.

[H2O Man]

9. Come on.

If "they" in all of their manifest forms are really behind "it" (in all its manifest forms) do you think "they" are going to leave huge clues? Being sober is much better.

[jsamuel]

16. It doesn't matter how many clues are or aren't there because the media

will not talk about them anyway. You know this better than most of us.

[Frederik]

74. Well the clues were all over 9/11

and it doesn't seem to have mattered.

[Horse with no Name]

11. Ummm

Make mine a double.

[goodboy]

12. I see you looked into Alex Jones finally, huh Will?

[BamaBecky]

36. LOL

[WilliamPitt]

39. Got this via email

[Name removed]

15. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[tocqueville]

23. first link doesn't prove anything

It has always been known that bombing subways would cause huge casualties

BTW the first (?) subway bombing by extremists was in Paris 1995

Chicago, IL., July 25, 1995 --At least four (4)people were killed and another 35 wounded in an afternoon terror attack that took place today in the Paris Saint-Michel underground station, near the Latin quarter. Police officials are investigating and wouldn't immediately comment, but French Prime Minister Alain Juppe is quoted by the Reuters News service as saying that he believes that "there is a very strong suspicion of a (terrorist) attack".
According to emergency medical service (EMS) officers, several people were trapped by the blast that ripped through the station. One account says that it was necessary to amputate the limbs of at least one passenger, in order to extricate them from the wreakage. Emergency officials say that they were on the scene within minutes of the 17:30p.m.(1530GMT) explosion, that occurred during afternoon rush hour. Early rescuer reports said that at least ten of the injured were in critical condition and that many had suffered shrapnel wounds to the head and chest. Others were reported with "crushing injuries" and "broken bones", according to one unidentified rescuer.

Police said that the type and size of the bomb was unknown, but that the destruction was "probably" caused by a "explosive device". One eyewitness said that the explosion had emulated from within one of the cars of the train, that was in the station at the time of the blast. A police spokesperson said that no one had claimed responsibility for the blast, but that concerns have been raised of the possible involvement of disputes involving the radical Islamic Salvation Front and French intervention in Algeria.
........

ERRI analysts said that this latest wave of bombings, allegedly carried out by Islamic extremists, parallels the level of terrorist activity that proceeded the World Trade Center bombing. At least one ERRI analyst said that he fears that this latest wave of violence could also involve the United States. He pointed to earlier U.S. State Department warnings of a suspected plot to attack an American target in South America, and said that he would suggest expanding that warning to also include the continental United States.

read the rest at :

http://www.emergency.com/frncboms.htm

this terror episode was accompanied by the hijacking of a plane to crash it on the Eiffel Tower, which was stopped by the GIGN.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_8969

Through POLICE work, most of the terrorists were eliminated or captured...

France didn't invade Sweden for alleged ties...

I post this because I think that many Americans are not aware of the French experience in fighting terrorism.

[geek tragedy]

17. Alex Jones is a certified nutbar--extremely unreliable.

He thinks Mel Gibson's Holocaust-denying daddy is a "brilliant" analyst of the New World Order.

He is a far-right wing loon who publishes racist material.

[Minstrel Boy]

18. This is a transcript and an audio clip from the BBC.

How happy for you it's Jones who brought it to our attention.

[Disturbed]

21. Another strange coinkidink.

Marvin Bush's security contract with the Towers ran out on 9/10.

[elehhhhna]

44. Link please? Never heard THAT one. scary stuff.

[Carni]

56. I don't have link to that but the company name was Stratesic

You may want to check the spelling (if you are really into it I can check it out) They also held the contract for Dulles and Los Alamos.
I believe the company is now defunct or was bought out or something.

[starroute]

63. Marvin Bush and Stratesec

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0204-06.htm

George W. Bush's brother was on the board of directors of a company providing electronic security for the World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport and United Airlines, according to public records. The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for years to the Bush family. The security company, formerly named Securacom and now named Stratesec, is in Sterling, Va.. Its CEO, Barry McDaniel, said the company had a ``completion contract" to handle some of the security at the World Trade Center ``up to the day the buildings fell down."

<snip>

Marvin P. Bush, the president's youngest brother, was a director at Stratesec from 1993 to fiscal year 2000. But the White House has not publicly disclosed Bush connections in any of its responses to 9/11, nor has it mentioned that another Bush-linked business had done security work for the facilities attacked. Marvin Bush joined Securacom when it was capitalized by the Kuwait-American Corporation, a private investment firm in D.C. that was the security company's major investor, sometimes holding a controlling interest. Marvin Bush has not responded to telephone calls and e-mails for comment.

KuwAm has been linked to the Bush family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and a member of the Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah, served on the board of Stratesec. The managing director at KuwAm, Wirt D. Walker III, was also a principal at Stratesec, and Walker, Marvin Bush and al Sabah are listed in SEC filings as significant shareholders in both companies during that period.

Marvin Bush's last year on the board at Stratesec coincided with his first year on the board of HCC Insurance, formerly Houston Casualty Co., one of the insurance carriers for the WTC. He left the HCC board in November 2002.

[In_The_Wind]

20. That's really scary information!

[Sydnie]

24. I knew about the drills in NY that day but hadn't heard about the

drills in London until today. I have a link posted in this thread to a BBC article about the NY drills even though they didn't get covered in any of our news sources that I could find that day.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4043568&mesg_id=4043568

[Lannes]

26. You know the old saying

"Even a broken clock is right twice a day"

Fortunately the interview is from the BBC.It raises some interesting questions.This might be something to send to Olberman.I dont know of any other big time journalist that would cover this story.

As far as the Al Qaeda infiltration theory,why would they want to have a rapid response team in place when they were about to carry out an attack? Maybe to shift the blame to the government?Who knows but they would know that everyone with that info would be scrutinized which might lead back to them.

I have no idea if this is true or not but it is worth checking out thats for sure.

[indepat]

27. It keeps getting curiouser and curiouser

[Jara sang]

28. His stuff about Bohemian Grove is pretty right on.

Gotta take him with a grain of salt though.

[mistertrickster]

29. Interesting and weird, BUT who's "prison planet" and how do we

know that their reportage has any merit?

Also, was the 9-11 drill reported by MSM?

[Minstrel Boy]

42. One's perception of "Prison Planet" should have zero

to do with this.

It's a transcript of a BBC 5 broadcast. There's an audio link to confirm its accuracy.

Alex Jones is a divisive figure, even among "conspiracy theorists." But he is not the story.

[dogday]

30. Don't forget Rudy was there as well

He himself said it was eery that he should be there at that particular time... Time for a drink....

[bpilgrim]

31. i hear the brits were starting to have some trouble with their PATRIOT ACT

wonder if this will help?

peace

[KoKo]

34. Daily Kos has now banned this stuff.

Some of us saw it posted here on DU earlier. It was even too :tinfoilhat: for me who wears one contantly but tries to cast a "critical eye."

Take a break. You are too important to PDA to get so riled up. There are birds and flowers out there and many things still left to get "grounded" from.... please...don't do this.

I get your posts e-mailed to me from NC Progressive Dems who don't see this side of you...please...it's important to move forward and recruit.

Sometimes this just causes problems...much as many of us are having terrible time controlling our anger with what we've seen...you are more sucessful than most...when you put your mind to it.

Please....

[bpilgrim]

35. gotta link?

thanks :hi:

peace

[KoKo]

38. DU Post: "Daily Kos Purges Tinfoilhat Crowd....Link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1915949&mesg_id=1915949

[bpilgrim]

40. that DOESN'T deal with the OP's topic though...

WE KNOW what happened on 911 & I don't think it FAIR to dismiss people out-oh-hand and ridicule them as needing some FREASH-AIR to clear their head when they share such information.

so unless you got a link to this topic specifically that proves it was a LIE i encourage ANYONE with more info to continue posting sourced info.

tia :toast:

peace

[KoKo]

61. Hey....go at it....but "Prison Planet" as the source

did cause a blink. :-)'s And, the OP is not known for getting into what many of us :tinfoilhat:'ers, are into here on DU. :D

Point taken...but I stand by my post on this to the "OP." Even if we find that Blair and Bush were "in on this" (probably likely given their sinking poll numbers), still more investigation does need to be done by those here on DU who are really good at underground pursuits for "truth"
:hi: PEACE!

[Lannes]

41. If it were just a conspiracy theory and not a BBC interview as the source

I would just chalk it up as just another tin foil theory.You may not agree with the conclusions of the writers from prison planet but I dont believe it should be swept under the rug.I know the Daily KOS doesnt want to be "tin foil central" but they are on a slippery slope when they censor an MSM interview because it might lead people to some off the wall conclusions.That happens all the time,why start censoring now?

[Moochy]

55. Not his first time near a train bombing...

Which is why I think it's important for us to have the original BBC only archive.. all of their shows are available for the last week.

taken from http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/witness/november/23/newsid_3227000/3227456.stm

1984: 'Pied Piper' of the Underground
What would you do if you were trapped on a train underground and your carriage began to fill with smoke?
On 23 November 1984, off-duty police officer Peter Power had fallen asleep while commuting home on the London Underground, when he was suddenly woken by the sound of slamming windows.

Inspector Power realised smoke was pouring into the train and the people around him were beginning to panic - so he decided to take action.

[muriel_volestrangler]

69. If you follow the link there, you see isn't wasn't a bomb

but a fire casues by an electrical fault.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/november/23/newsid_2547000/2547639.stm

[Moochy]

80. Correction , electrical Fire

My bad, I tried to post this 3 or 4 times during the server outages.
I got it confused with another BBC report where he commented on an attack by the IRA, that was a mortar.

Correct, not a bomb, but a fire. I thought it interesting that Peter Power who made the claim on BBC, that were simultaneous exercises for a train bombing reaction, was also in an 1984 train disaster and had the article quotes him as saying:

"That was the last time I ever set foot on a Tube train."

[KoKo]

72. You could also look at this "revelation" as a way to corrupt the 9/11

Timeline and analyses and theories which have been worked on here in the US by "honest and sincere" investigators who've looked at the 9/11 Commission Testimony and noticed that there were references to "something" going on connected to our Government and Cheney Ops the morning those planes flew into buildings.

There's tons of real investigation down in the "9/11 Forum" here on DU. But what better way for the Right to corrupt and deep six all the information that points to Cheney conducting a "Norad Drill" on 9/11 than to make up some stuff about the same thing happening with the London Bombings.

It's the way the RW works. They throw dirt and the truth and figure it will stick enough that it's unrecognizable once the media gets ahold of it. So, get some "credible folks" to suddenly come out and allude that there was a "special ops drill" going on in London and then trace it back to 9/11 here and then it turns out the Brit story is bogus and it makes the 9/11 "Norad Drill" questionable too...by way of association.

That's what this sounds like to me. It would seem odd that with the "G-8 Summit" going on that the Brits decide to stage a "Mock Attack" on their Subways at the same time. I can see it before or after the "G-8" but with so many of their London Police up their guarding Chimp, Blair it would seem a rather stupid time to do it. :shrug:

For what it's worth I think this story is a "plant," that can only hurt those of us who believe MIHOP or LIHOP. If it isn't and it's true...then Hell let's hope it exposes that Bush and Blair are tied together and have planned or facilitated many events to achieve their "world order" since the Chimp was selected!

[helderheid]

62. but it was the BBC!

[Frederik]

66. Do you think the BBC is an unreliable source?

Do you think this information is irrelevant and uninteresting?

[geek tragedy]

37. Is there a link to the full program--not just the excerpt?

[Minstrel Boy]

49. There are links to both the quotes and

a "longer clip where the comments can be heard in their full context."

[dogday]

43. It should be easy enough to find out if this is true

On a BBC Radio 5 interview that aired on the evening of the 7th, the host interviewed Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a 'crisis management' advice company, better known to you and I as a PR firm.

Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch.

Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.



He gives enough information about his source... Should not be so hard to locate Peter Power....

[booksenkatz]

50. self delete

asked and answered (thanks Minstrel Boy)

[Minstrel Boy]

52. It's not just a transcript - there are also audio clips

available via the original link.

[booksenkatz]

53. Musta posted simultaneoustifically

Somehow I'd overlooked your posts as I had not done a current refresh. Thx!

[Moochy]

54. It made Peter Power's hair stand up on the back of his neck

I'm looking but it'd have been better if Alex Jones had identified which presenter was doing the interview.
from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/3684775.stm

Peter Power
Peter Power is a crisis management expert.

He was the author of the UK Govt. (DTI) issued guidebook 'Preventing Chaos in a Crisis'.

He is also a Fellow of the Business Continuity and Chartered Management Institutes, and Emergency Planning Society.

Peter also regularly runs workshops and coaching sessions on Crisis Management.

Another point, while prisonplanet is hosting the files, noone is claiming they are fake.

Theres a BBC article on Mr Powers'from may 15th 2004.

link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/3684775.stm


Heres another from 2000:

Anti-terrorist expert Peter Power told the BBC the MI6 building was one of the most high profile in central London.
"If you wanted to make a name for yourself, get yourself back onto the front pages, why not go for something that's high profile and minimal risk."
He said there was growing evidence that it was a mortar-type device that was fired from several hundred yards away.
"The balance of probabilities, I think, indicates we are now looking at a republican act, very, very similar in more ways than one to the Hammersmith Bridge bomb a few months ago," he said.

I'm still trying to find the Audio link for BBC Five Live show on thursday night. Anyone have any luck?

[supernova]

46. GACK! Somebody doesn't want me to respond

to this subject today. I saw the original post in LBN, but it was locked before I could respond.

Just now, we had the server stall, and couldn't post a 2nd time. :P

Anyway, it is beyond creepy. Somebody was watching that company.

[OKNancy]

70. We don't allow prison planet in LBN because it's a

kooky nutball site which often has unreliable information and wild-eyed conspiracy stories.

[elehhhhna]

48. Say it's proven true. Here's what I don't understand:

Even the most tinfoil-hatted among us knows The BA isn't stupid enough to schedule this stuff during a drill on purpose. Really. Right? I mean COME ON.

The only other possibility is that we've been compromised and infiltrated and the bomber/terrorists KNOW when the drills are scheduled--and bomb accordingly. But what sense does that make? It's self-defeating to execute the exact same attack that the drill requires...when the designated clean up people are in place & ready to go Unless you want us to know YOU know everything, or worse; want us to think the BA's behind the bombings.

Help think this through--what part am I missing? my tinfoil hat is toooo tight right now...


IF it's FALSE, the questions are still valid re: 911.

[bobbieinok]

51. a thread on 'exercises' on 7-7

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

there are links to BBC and Guardian stories about exercises in the posts.......I didn't find anything in a very fast glance through the linked stories ..... maybe an earlier story would have had info???

[Lorien]

64. The late night NBC news mentioned the excercises

they called them "ironic".

[rumpel]

57. If I remember correctly, didn't Cheney order the excersise on 9/11?

Was is not, that the fighter jets were flying towards Canada, and unavilable? Correct me if I am wrong. Where did I hear that...I can't remember

Who ordered this excerise and when?

Something does not sound right, with all these terror warnings and incidents at particular timings.
Co-incidence? It seems just one too many, to not be surprised of such horrible possibility. We need TIA to calculate the probabilities.

[Name removed]

58. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Lorien]

65. Yep-FEMA was in NYC that day for the "drill" n/t

[Goldmund]

59. Very interesting,

but not unequivocally pointing to MIHOP/LIHOP. It could also be that the perpetrators chose to strike during these excercises because they thought they had a better chance of success while the cops etc. were tied up with the excercize.

Disclaimer: I'm not one of those who buys into the most common conspiracy theory: the one that says that there are no conspiracies. But on the other hand, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

[stevedeshazer]

67. Drinking heavily now.

This shit keeps me awake at night.

[jazzjunkysue]

68. It's just really easy to believe this.

"The Anglo-American establishment that controls the military-industrial complex of the West has been caught over a hundred times carrying out bombings and other terrorist attacks around the world to further their corporate aims and to blame their enemies."

I have no problem believing this.

[The Magistrate]

71. The Fact Remains, Mr. Pitt

That everything in this article except the excerpts from the BBC interview is mere speculation by a person notorious for unreliability bordering on lunacy.

Note that no details of the exercise are provided. No one seems to know if it was a role-play simulation, or a drill set at the scene, or something inbetween.

From the scanty detail excerpted from the BBC, it seems tio have been a reaction simulation, and may, indeed, have rather heightened the response time to the crisis than otherwise.

Statements that it would have served to cover planting bombs are pure speculation, absent real details of the drill. Almost everything the author provides as "corroberation" is false or exaggerated to the point of nonesense.

[H2O Man]

77. "exaggerated to the point of nonsense."

Perhaps exaggerated far, far beyond that, Your Honor.

[The Magistrate]

81. Understatement, Sir, Is My Forte....

The man is a sick and bloody-minded lunatic, and it is difficult to respect anyone who takes him seriously or circulates his ravings.

[undeterred]

76. You really should check out the September 11 forum n/t

[Eric J in MN]

78. I don't trust Alex Jones. (nt)

nt

[muriel_volestrangler]

79. This was an exercise for one company, not for London

Visor Consultants (not a PR firm, as Prison Planet unexplicably describes them, but a crisis management company - these do exist - they tell you how to manage crises, unsurprisingly, eg what to have as backup systems, emergency premises, who is in charge of what in emergencies, who can take over from whom, and so on - any large company has to have these plans. I took part in such exercises for one of my previous employers), was running an exercise for a company, which has over 1,000 employees in London (NB: Prison Planet describes this as a 1,000 person strong exercise, but that's not what Power said; he said he had a room full of crisis managers - maybe 10, maybe 50?).

Now, lots of companies run various disaster exercises. They involve a lot of pushing bits of paper around, and getting people to pretend to make the decisions in a scenario; or you have to set up your computer systems from backups at a separate site; or things like that. It is slightly spooky that Power says the same stations were involved (if he means all 3, and that they hadn't picked any others: picking King's Cross and Liverpool St. wouldn't be that unusual - they're 2 of the biggest commuter stations in London, and so would be likely targets).

But there's no evidence there that this had anything to do with the real world. It was not an exercise involving the real public transport network, or the emergency services. It was a company working out how it would respond to bombs in London. So there isn't any reason to don tin foil hats. :-)

[bridgit]

82. i think you're onto it, muriel_volestrangler...

so much of all these matters are on, so as to say, the 'tip of our brains' already we just need to put all such into a higher gear imo, london's response mechanism was spot-on, so admirable to behold folks who've actually prepared for something in earnest & in advance :thumbsup: :hi:

[havocmom]

83. Somebody around here posted the fact that they were holding exercises

and they posted it pretty early on after the bombings. Made me pretty ill to think it happend again during a repsonse exercise. :wtf:

[The Magistrate]

84. Locking

"Prison Planet" is not an acceptable source in this forum.