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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 06:32 PM
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Newspaper Withholding Two Articles after Jailing
email to me:

The editor of The Cleveland Plain Dealer said last night that the newspaper, acting on the advice of its lawyers, was withholding publication of two major investigative articles because they were based on illegally leaked documents and could lead to penalties against the paper and the jailing of reporters.

Mr. Clifton declined to provide details about the two investigative articles being withheld, but he characterized them as "profoundly important," adding, "They would have been of significant interest to the public." Asked if they might be published at some later date, he said, "Not in the short term."

letters@nytimes.com

letters@plaind.com (for Cleveland Plain Dealer LTE’s)



Anne Lindsay (NC)

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 06:41 PM
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1. You need to give us more info than that for us to know...
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 06:44 PM by Up2Late
...what the hell you're talking about.

Are you the author? What are they about (generally) etc.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 06:46 PM
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2. No clue what they are about was in an email, but the fact that anything
is being WITHHELD is not good news!
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 06:57 PM
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3. Here's a link
hat explains it
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000976374

It didn't take long for the Cooper/Miller ruling to have a chilling effect on the media.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 10:12 PM
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9. I don't see how the Cooper/Miller ruling changed anything since reporters
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 10:16 PM by Garbo 2004
have previously spent time in jail or house arrest for refusing to turn over sources and info. Of course they weren't stars with the NYT or Time mag, but, for example, a local TV reporter (2004) http://www.rcfp.org/news/2005/0412-con-televi.html and a freelance writer author (2001) http://www.rcfp.org/leggett.html .


Did Abrams (referenced in post below) when he appeared on TV address how the Cooper/Miller ruling specifically has changed anything in regards to courts using contempt of court charges to try to coerce reporters to testify? I just don't see it.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:35 AM
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10. I would say that if the Judge in the Cooper Miller matter reads this,
these people are going to also be called in, like it or not, these people have already put themselves on the hot seat! And good luck!
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dave502d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 07:22 PM
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4. I would think these Articles would not cause someone to die.
So print the story's.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 08:19 PM
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5. Made the national evening news tonight (ABC or CBS)
I was flipping between the two and can't remember which one carried it.

They interviewed Floyd Abrams. He said that this was only the first. Many more to come.

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Timshel Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 09:44 PM
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6. here's more info about the issue and some more contact info as well
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050709/ap_on_re_us/newspap...

"The Plain Dealer, Ohio's largest newspaper, is holding two investigative stories based on leaked documents because they could result in the type of court showdown that led to a New York Times reporter being jailed.

The Plain Dealer is trying to find a way to publish the stories without relying on the documents, editor Doug Clifton said Friday.

"It was documentation that would have been illegal to share, so there wasn't any ambiguity about what we had," Clifton said......"
<snip>
"The stories dealt with local and state government. Clifton told The New York Times in Saturday's edition that "the material was under seal or something along those lines."



This is big, in so many ways! Who knows what these stories are about (maybe election 2004 or Coingate!), but regardless we need to remind them of their job as the public's watchdog!


Douglas C. Clifton
Editor
Phone: 216.999.4123
dclifton@plaind.com

Managing Editor
Tom O'Hara
Tohara@plaind.com
216.999.4737

Alex Machaskee
President and Publisher
216.999.4217
publisher@plaind.com

Robert M. Long
Executive Vice President
216.999.4386
blong@plaind.com
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:36 AM
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11. Ewwwww I knew it! Thanks for the info!
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 09:50 PM
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7. Hasn't the crime already been commited whether ornot they publish thestory
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 09:51 PM by jsamuel
i don't think this case is a "crime" like the other one is anyway
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:37 AM
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12. Withholding evidence!
x(
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 10:01 PM
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8. I sent this to them: I think you should publish, here is why
I am not a lawyer, but PLEASE read this.





If any crime was committed, it has already happened. There is nothing you can do about it now. You should publish the story because no matter whether you do or not, the leak has already happened. Ms. Miller is not under investigation because she published the story, only because she is a witness to a crime involving National Security.



She didn’t even publish the story, so your publishing the stories does not change anything. Plus, I encourage you to care more about the country and the state of Ohio than yourself. That is a lot to ask, but I believe that is what I would do in your situation. Jesus defied the Pharisees and died for it, but his sacrifice has caused so many people to find God.



Thank you for reading and have courage,
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:38 AM
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13. Yes Courage people courage! Stop shakin' in your boots and cough it
up!
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