Terror Web Site (London Bombings) out of MD?

[lala_rawraw]

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/alqmaryland.html

[lala_rawraw]

1. anyone, tech people...

want to make sense of this one for me?

[spinbaby]

2. Whoa!

I'm not up on the techie details but it sure looks like the London terrorists registered their Web site in Maryland and used an ISP in Texas. Definitely one to look into.

[spinbaby]

3. Unintentional duplication

Ignore, please.

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. Seems this Jon Messner already has an alibi

Why does this Wired story have 'full of shit' writen all over it?


How Al-Qaida Site Was Hijacked


Aug. 10, 2002

A Maryland hacker used simple Web tools like whois and traceroute -- as well as online translation software and an anti-cybersquatting service -- to take over the domain name of al-Qaida's website. And he's ready to do it again.

Jon Messner, the Internet entrepreneur who perpetrated the recent domain hijacking, used SnapName's Snapback service to obtain ownership of the domain www.alneda.com.

The switch in ownership was made on July 16, after the owners of alneda.com deleted its registration from an ISP in Malaysia. Messner believes this was in preparation to establish Al Neda on another server.

"It was a slippery bastard, but I've got it now," Messner laughs. "I own alneda.com."

<snip>

Now Messner was listed as Al Neda's owner.

At that point, Messner put up a copy of the original al-Qaida website on his new domain, with one subtle difference. "I put very simple CGI tracking on the site, so for five days I could trace back to nearly every hostile Islamic message board and website on the Internet."

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,54455,00.html

[muriel_volestrangler]

5. I'm not sure if 'alneda' is the correct website name

but The Guardian did a report on this on Saturday:

It was posted on an Arabic website, al-qal3ah.com, which is registered by Qalaah Qalaah in Abu Dhabi and hosted by a server in Houston, Texas.

But two Israeli groups devoted to exposing the network of jihadist sites claim that it is connected to the London-based Saudi dissident Saad al-Faqih. Mr Faqih, who is based in Willesden, north-west London, and runs the Movement for Islamic Reform in Arabia (Mira), was designated by the US treasury last December as a supporter of al-Qaida. The UK Treasury followed suit by freezing Mr Faqih's assets.
...
The server in Houston has intriguing connections. Everyone's Internet was founded by brothers Robert and Roy Marsh in 1998 and by 2002 had an income of more than $30m (now about £17m).

Renowned for his charitable work, Roy Marsh counts among his friends President George Bush's former sister-in-law, Sharon Bush, and the president's navy secretary.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1524779,00.html

[DoYouEverWonder]

6. Here's a related story

posted a few weeks before the Wired story. The dates overlap with the time frame that Jon claims to have taken over the site.


Title: Al-Qa'ida Affiliated Website Back Online; Taliban Official's Statements Reported

19 Jul 2002

The fundamentalists have won a new round of the declared online war against websites affiliated with Al-Qa'ida and the Taliban and adopt their media discourse. Alneda website, which speaks in al-Qa'ida's name, managed to evade the tough censorship of a new server under the name Studies dot com.

US sources believe Alneda is al-Qa'ida's media mouthpiece because it has been the only source to report news of Usama Bin Ladin over the past months. The most recent of these reports is an audio recording of al-Qa'ida official spokesman Sulayman Abu-Ghayth declaring the network's responsibility for the Tunisia blast that killed 21 people, including 14 German tourists. The announcement of Alneda's return online came in an e-mail that al-Sharq al-Awsat received a copy of yesterday through the Jihad Online website, which is the most updated fundamental site on the World Wide Web.

Abd-al-Rahman al-Rashid, a Gulf fundamentalist and general supervisor of Jihad Online, congratulated the brothers on the return of the Islamic Studies and Research website to the web. The website is still in its original location -- http://www.alneda.com. The most prominent topics on the website include a series of analyses under the title "America's Rise To the Abyss," which is a four-part series on the reasons behind US globalization, the reasons for the disputes between United States and its allies, which limited its ability to continue its expansionist track, as well as the reasons behind America's declared war on Islamists online. The analysis adds: "Islamists must be prepared to have their websites shut down in any minute, but must search for alternatives online, the most important of which being email lists that Islamists can create and use to disseminate news."

One of the most recent interviews published on Jihad Online is an interview posted yesterday with Muhammad Tayyib Agha, adviser to former Taliban ruler Mullah Umar. Agha is a young man in his early thirty's whom I met in Kandahar a couple of years ago. He is fluent in Arabic, which he learned in the Pakistani city of Kuwita with roaming Afghan ambassador Mawlawi Rahmatullah Hashimi -- who spoke English -- before the fall of the Taliban.

http://cryptome.org/alneda-up.htm



I think you may have opened a strange can of worms here.

edit: deleted comments about Jihad Online, I was mixing it up with another site called Jihad Unspun.

[TomClash]

7. This is absurd

the alneda.com website has been down for about a year now. After 9/11, Jon Meissner had his own website, itshappening.com, linked to the alneda.com url. This guy's no terrorist.