Why does the right hate the ACLU?

[undeterred]

Its an organization which can serve the interests of ANY American.

[GeekMonkey]

1. they hate them for our freedoms

[dogday]

6. Amen to that

[chalky]

24. Unless they're in trouble with the law, then they quietly turn to the ACLU

for help.

:blush: "oopsie. I made a booboo. Mr. ACLU man, can you help me?"

For them it's on the embarrassment level of purchasing hemorrhoid cream or filling a subscription for a salve for that "special itch".

[niallmac]

34. Hoooo boy.

I don't know, maybe too much coffee this morning but that's funny IMHO! 'they hate our freedoms...' A lamer excuse for the enmity of our foes was never constructed. A politico in London commenting on the on target comments of Galloway said to wit; 'there is no evidence to connect the bombings with the war in Iraq'. OK. If that is the idiocy that is allowed in the media: I have in my possession absolute proof that the the London bombings are in retaliation for a decades old broadcast of "My Mother The Car" that somehow really insulted the Wahbis." For further details go to WWW.WeAreAllMorons.commiepinko.
Ooops. Tooo much coffee.:banghead:

[sendero]

2. They hate America..

.... even George Bush 41 said he was a card-carrying member of the ACLU.

The fundies really do not like the Constitution of the U. S. It offers little foundation for the theocracy they invision, though they constantly bleat otherwise.

Organizations committed to the constitution are not on their side.

[Toots]

20. When did George Bush ever say he was a card carrying member of ACLU?

I find that statement suspect.

[sendero]

29. George Bush senior..

... I remember reading that during his tenure.

Remember, Bush senior did not pander to the religious right like his son does, quite the opposite.

ON EDIT: I'm looking on the web for a link and having a hard time finding anything to back up my claim. Since I'm operating on memory only, I have to concede I might be wrong....

[FreedomAngel82]

41. Last night

I finished watching the documentary "Spin" and the person who did the moderating over the film told how Bush senior was pretty pro-choice but he had to be pro-life cause of the religious people in the party and to have their support. Al Gore was pro-life and he had to change a bit too. When he was in the Senate he voted against government funding for abortion clinics. In this film it shows what they say when the cameras are off (satellite) and Gore is getting coached on how to avoid the question. :shrug: Now days though the democratic party is more open to people I think (look at Harry Reid) who are pro-life. I just found that interesting about Bush I because I figured he was pandering to the religious right too.

[Lefty48197]

45. Bush Sr. and his operatives accused Dukakis of being a "Card carrying

member" of the ACLU. If I recall correctly, ACLU membership shot up as many others decided they too wanted to be card carrying members of the ACLU.

[Coastie for Truth]

35. Don't know about Bush 41

But Dick Thornburgh and his wife were contributors to the ACLU (before he became AG). Their "issue" was handicappers and the Americans with Disabilities Act.

And Orin Hatch spoke at ACLU meetings on "Oregon v. Smith" (The Peyote Case). BYU Law Dean Rex Lee and Alan Dershowitz both signed the ACLU brief in that case.

Orin Hatch and Dick Thornburgh were Law School class mates at the University of Pittsburgh Law School

[stlsaxman]

39. GHW Bush accused Dukakis of being a "card carrying" member...

he never said that he himself was.

[RetroLounge]

3. Easy, the ACLU defends the Bill of Rights

while the Repukes shit on the Bill of Rights.

RL

[joemurphy]

8. They don't like lawyers...

Unless their kids are in the slammer for shoplifting, sniffing glue, or drunk driving. Or unless they need one for some other reason.

And it's because the ACLU lets lefties burn flags or because it lets righties, like Rush Limbaugh, hide prescriptions showing they eat pills.

[FreedomAngel82]

43. I've never got it myself

I've tried to figure it out but just don't get it. They think the ACLU is anti-Christian but it's anything but. They defend everybody if it's a case against the Constiution/Bill of Rights. I thank God for them. Without them who knows how things would be in this country. :crazy:

[mopinko]

16. o/t retro, but

your little sig sign makes me comment that i got a fundraising call from the dnc the other day. i had a pleasant chat with the nice lady, and as i got out my credit card, i said- write on there somewhere that i said 'howard dean speaks for me' she chuckled and said, 'well, they monitor the calls, so you just told them', so i said, 'oh well, in that case, let me say it again 'HOWARD DEAN SPEAKS FOR ME, JOE BIDEN SHOULD SHUT UP, AND JOE LIEBERMAN CAN GO HOME NOW!!' she chuckeld again and said, 'you said it, not me', 'yes, i said it, and i am the one with the credit card in my hand!' best $50 i ever spent.

[RetroLounge]

25. Wonderful!

Gotta let them hear it!

RL

[mopinko]

30. most fun you can have

with your clothes on.

[Mythsaje]

4. Because the Right

doesn't like anyone standing up for the little guy.

Except maybe Libertarians...

[MindPilot]

5. the average winger is too stupid to figure that out eom

[Snotcicles]

7. They can't bring back slavery with the ACLU in the way. n/t

[librechik]

12. exactly--racism, anti-intellectualism and antisemitism.

3 "reasons" Righties hate the ACLU

[Coastie for Truth]

37. I think that's it - in a nutshell. N/T

[dansolo]

9. Including non-affluent Americans

The reason they hate the ACLU is because they offer a chance for people who don't have a lot of money to afford expensive lawyers to defend themselves.

[whatever4]

10. Just like with Rush, it's a love hate relationship

Limbaugh to get legal boost from group he's often ripped
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/news/limbaugh/011304_limbaugh.html

http://www.aclu.org/Privacy/Privacy.cfm?ID=14994&c=27
http://talkleft.com/new_archives/004969.html
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/04/28/limbaugh.court/

Pretty pathetic, isn't it?

[jeff30997]

11. They hate every people or group that do good things for society...

And are ready to fight for the greater good.They should organize pilgrimage to spit on Mother Teresa's grave.:grr:

[Joey Liberal]

13. Because republicans are anti-freedom

[Eric J in MN]

14. People like Bill O'Reilly want there to be no limits on Bush's power,

and so he gets the rubes into a frenzy against the ACLU, which limits what the govt. can do by standing up for our rights.

[baldguy]

15. The ACLU supports the idea that ALL Americans have rights.

Minorities, the poor. communists, union members, non-christians, gays, etc etc

The right hates the ACLU because the ACLU protects the people they hate.

[BamaLefty]

17. Massive Smear Campaigns

That's why.

[GeekMonkey]

18. Most RWers arent sure why they hate the things they are told to hate

such as:
Liberals
ACLU
People on Welfare (they LOVE corporations on welfare)

They don't know WHY they hate them.

Most RWers couldnt define a liberal past the talking points handed down by their AM radio.


They hate who they are told to hate and don't have to bother with checking out why they are supposed to hate.

[BamaLefty]

23. Exactly.

[LSK]

the RWers know why they are told to hate:

Because Libs, ACLU, etc are all Communists and Terrorists.

[TreasonousBastard]

19. They've defended Communists, Nazis, and...

were behind Madalyne Murray Ohare's landmark case against prayer in public schools, among others.

Doesn't make any difference that they are the true Americans defending all of our individual rights-- the right hates them because they have beaten and embarrassed them on some of their favorite issues.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

48. They defended the KKK too

[TreasonousBastard]

50. Them too-- free speech is not reserved for the good guys only.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

52. exactly...the rabid right should be glad

[undeterred]

51. They defended the right of the Nazis to march

in Skokie, a heavily Jewish Chicago suburb with many holocaust survivors. Now that's believing in the Constitution.

[TreasonousBastard]

53. And that cost them many Jewish members...

so they put the principle of free speech above not only their own revulsion of the Nazis but money, too.

No organization is perfect and the ACLU has certainly made some strange choices over the years, but I suspect that when the right wing sees something they don't own that can't be bought or scared off, it really worries them.

[LSK]

21. ummm the Right doesnt give a crap about ANY American..

It is a party for a few in power to rip off the rest of the Americans by any means.

You havnt figured that out yet???

[leesa]

22. Mostly because they were told to, but because Big Bidness doesn't

like anyone enforcing the Bill of Right.

[tabasco]

26. The leaders of the right wing want to destroy individual liberties ...

and give more power to the state/corporations.

Meanwhile, they preach "big government Democrats" to the ignorant masses.

[GOPisEvil]

27. Want to make their heads explode? Mention the ACLU fought for Rush.

The ACLU was on Rush's side in relation to the release of his medical records.

They also are on the side of CHristian Scientists in their belief not to utilize modern medicin.

So, there's that.

[chalky]

42. Don't forget Oliver North and Jerry Falwell

The ACLU stepped in on behalf of Oliver North during the Iran-Contra scandal, arguing that he should not be compelled to testify and then be prosecuted based on what he said. His conviction ultimately was overturned.

The ACLU also filed an amicus brief on behalf of the Rev. Jerry Falwell, the conservative televangelist, in his fight to strike down a provision in the Virginia Constitution banning religious organizations from incorporating.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/news/limbaugh/011304_limbaugh.html

[Hubert Flottz]

28. They hate anyone who stands up to them and tells them the truth

The Reich Wing leadership are like termites eating Away at the very foundation of our freedom and liberty and hiding it from the light of day! Even the "normal" run of the mill registered GOPer, HATES the ACLU and Ted Kennedy!

[jeff30997]

32. I always wondered why they hated Ted Kennedy so much...

Because is a Kennedy ? Why do they hate Kennedys ? :shrug:

[Hubert Flottz]

38. Because the Kennedy boys were and still are, throwing the...

wrenches into the GOPer misinformation machine. The kkkons hate anyone that stands up to them and their evil designs, in case some haven't noticed. I know of no connection between Ted Kennedy and the ACLU!

[rasputin1952]

31. As a Card Carrying member of the ACLU, and a proud one at that....

I can tell you that the ACLU has taken issues from all over the political spectrum into the courts.

Not many realize that the ACLU came to Falwell's defense when there were suits against him pertaining to tax laws and Falwell's church. Just goes to show people that the ACLU doesn't discriminate when it comes to Liberty. I wasn't enthralled w/the ACLU's decision to enter the fray w/the Falwell situation....but I applaud the way they didn't look at it from a purely ideological way.

The Right hates them, simply because the neo-cons demand that they rule the nation, with everyone else subservient, the ACLU takes on high profile cases, to ensure they don't get the power to do that...:)

[mcscajun]

33. Because they only want the rights of people they agree with defended.

and the ACLU defends the principles, not the individuals. The RW has some trouble with that.

[annabanana]

40. that's it... and WAY too nuanced for them to figure out..

and wrap their little heads around. ACLU defended the KKK's right to march in Skokie Ill back in the early 60's.. they defended a kid's right to hand out candy canes with scripture tags on them during a school's winter party...You didn't hear a lot of complaining from the RW about that, now did you?

[libodem]

36. same reason they hate the U.N.

Hollywood, and Amnesty International...anything or anyone that can counter their agenda...thats why they hate education as well.....they want the sheeple ignorant and without rights

[Zorbuddha]

44. Except CORRUPT Americans

There's your answer.

[longship]

46. Tail-gunner Joe McCarthy in the 1950's

Tail-gunner Joe McCarthy was big about demonizing the ACLU. His association of the ACLU with communism has been the historic context for the current right wing attacks on it.

Interesting enough, one of the recent prominent ACLU defenders is Bob Barr. Remember him during the Clinton impeachment flap? Verrrry interesting.

[More Than A Feeling]

47. Because they don't like the idea that they can't do whatever they want

Their tyranny of the majority (which is actually a minority, but with the illusion of the majority) can't succeed in a civil society with interest groups that they cannot control, so they attempt to marginalize them.

[alarimer]

49. They don't like the Constitution

Deep down in their empty little hearts they really want a totalitarian society, complete with mandatory church going and prayer in schools. I really believe that the right is not terribly interested in freedom; it is so much easier when you can just jail all the people who disagree with you.

[NMMNG]

54. The ACLU tries to stop them from

treating ethnic minorities like second class citizens, women like breeding devices, gays like pariahs and non-Christians like criminals. They hate that.

[Rob_G]

55. Because the ACLU resists theo-fascism. n/t