Judy Miller says she will not testify because she is AFRAID FOR HER LIFE!

[jsamuel]

I am not talking about the 1st amendment, that issue is very complex and has nothing to do with what I am talking about here.

The media has been overlooking the statement made by Ms. Miller when she was just about to be sent to jail.

"I won't testify. The risks are too great. The government is too powerful."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/07/national/main707048.shtml

She is not talking about any media matters here. She is saying that the "risk" she takes by testifiying is that "this" government would have the power to do something to harm her, her family, or her friends.

This is a very important point. She is in a way telling us that she is scared that the government (the Bush Administration) will bring harm to those around her or herself in order to pay her back for testifying against them. We already know they are capable of doing this because of what they did to Valerie Plame. That was payback too.

[seemslikeadream]

Judy get some guts like Sibel Edmonds

http://www.uebersetzerportal.de.nyud.net:8090/bilder2/sibel_edmonds2.jpg

Just what do you think you were doing all these years, covering dog shows?

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[seemslikeadream]

7. saskatoon have you read the rules here?

It appears you have not. Yea I am a smart ass and I can call myself that if I want but you can not

[seemslikeadream]

11. 1753

As of this morning 1753 soldiers have died as a result of Judith Miller

[seemslikeadream]

21. Do you know anyone that has died in the war Miller help start?

I do

[existentialist]

1. Judith Miller's fears

So how do we get this aspect of the story before the general public?

[KaryninMiami]

2. Remember Paul Wellstone....

It's true- they will stop at nothing and have absolutely no morals. Look at it this way- they rigged both elections. So, we have an illegal administration running the country, making frightening decisions causing huge loss of life, environmental destruction, loss of human and civil rights and too many other atrocities to mention. Need I say more?

[indepat]

19. I would add destruction of: the fiscal integrity of the government most

dooming social security and medicare; the rule of law; and international law, and treaties, organizations, and goodwill, just to name a few of so many more. But such are but small prices to pay to have the far RW PNAC agenda implemented.

[stickdog]

49. Don't forget stocking the courts with goons, gutting bankruptcy laws,

pushing for extraordinary tort limitations, not warning NY inhabitants about all of the dangerous and deadly post-9/11 toxic waste, attempting to settle all current and future asbestos liability suits for a few pennies on the dollar, and war profiteering to tune of scores of billions.

[Pithy Cherub]

3. The world is safer with Judy safely protected in jail...

:boring: wake me when what she says is real...

[Ikonoklast]

5. Just another BushCo. reject

getting thrown to the wolves. As soon as your usefulness to the Empire is gone, so are you.

I have nothing but contempt for her and people like her; furthering their own career at the expense of others' lives and livelihood.

She should be scared; we are entering very dangerous times ahead. I feel that the worst has not come about yet, this is just the start of consolidation of power to the few and the elimination of enemies. I do not believe that these criminals will let the next elections stop them.

[despairing optimist]

6. The more she opens her mouth, the less respect I have for her

First she said it wasn't her job to verify what her "high official sources" were telling her. Then she fell into a trap with a twisted reading of how and when reporters should shield sources. And now, when the game's up and it's time to put the cards on the table, she says she's too fearful to help set things straight in this country, including those things she had a hand in twisting.

If Judy Miller reperesents the best this country has to offer, no one should wonder why we are where we are now, or where we're headed soon.

[Tace]

38. Good Point

[peacetalksforall]

8. There is nothing believable about the side she works for, so take

caution with her words - it's doubtful that she's been born again.

[kestrel91316]

9. Hey, if the government is so d-----ed evil ...............

then be a REAL HERO and tell all! Let the truth see the light of day, and America will love you for it. And if you then wind up "suicided", you can be a martyr!

Nah, you'd rather go on being a shill for the BFEE. I am silly to think otherwise.

[Garbo 2004]

10. That's what you infer, but that's not what she said.

She's a diva and enjoying her "martyrdom." Fear? Or just self-dramatization? Cooper and other reporters talked to Rove and had no such fears since they are cooperating.

She did not say she afraid for her life. She is setting herself up as a hero and martyr. A role that doesn't suit her, given her known history. But it plays well, as evidenced here.

[alfredo]

14. That's it. She knows too much and now she fears retribution

by the bush junta if she tells what she knows.

Remember, she knew enough to tip off some Muslim "charities" to the impending raids. What other inside info does she have.

I think we can find a good frame for this. So we can say she is not acting on principle, she is acting in fear of the bush administration. If she fears them, maybe we should too.

[Disturbed]

18. She is basking in her glory.

When she was being driven away to Club Fed. she was smiling and waving to her fans. After being a whore for the Regime she now claims to be a victim. Does she think that being in Club Fed offers her protection? She's playing a little game and will cash in with money and fame, the darling of the Bush Cult.

[kenny blankenship]

12. Be careful or you'll get the same kind of reputation she has

as a liar and exaggerator.

[TahitiNut]

13. Whore's-shit.

Absolutely nothing she says has value-added merit. Not even this. These words can easily be spun to mean the "risks" are to "freedom of the press" and the "government is too powerful" applies to forcing her to testify.

She has been a willing and well-compensated mouthpiece for the abuses of power of this regime. She's (along with the corporatist media) attempting to exploit the abuse of whistleblowers, not to gain better direct protections for whistleblowers but to gain privilege for herself and media corporations.

She is protecting the retaliators, not the whistleblower.

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[sam sarrha]

16. heard she was called " is that a bannana in your pocket..? Miller"

seems to whored her way into a position of influence then used it to get us in a needless war.

[sam sarrha]

17. this will explain what the plame case is all about...LINK >>>

http://s93118771.onlinehome.us/DU/AMERICANJUDAS.pdf

[Vitruvius]

25. Here's the Wiki link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Miller_%28journalist%29

Unfortunately, it appears that some of the article has been edited, but the remainder is quite good -- it includes info on her participation in previous VRWC disinformation campaigns.

[Jim Sagle]

32. You need to watch your mouth.

[Burried News]

20. What more does Judy know? Is there more than the Plame outing?

She knew David Kelly and had exchanged emails with him and he was 'suicided'.

Alma Powell was afraid for Colin Powells life and didn't want him to run for public office immediately after he retired from the Army.
Rose Kennedy didn't want Teddy to ever run for the presidency because she was sure he would be murdered as John and Robert had been. Are all of you so sure John John's crash was an accident - I'm not.

What was Gen. Schwartzkopf afraid of when he reversed himself at the beginning of the Iraq War?
What was Durbin afraid of - he cried when he apologized.

What made Ross Perot withdraw from the 92 presidential race and then re-enter it? Do you think he was a just flake? Rumors at the time were that his family was threatened.

In her own way Judy is telling us something - it is a fearful environment. To talk about the fear is a step forward.

Everybody asks why the media hasn't done its job - has anyone considered that they are afraid?

[Garbo 2004]

22. Except she didn't talk about fear and didn't appear at all afraid;

instead quite pleased with herself as the star of the drama.

I wouldn't be surprised if she knew Plame's identity as a result of her long involvement with the intel/WMD community and tipped someone off. She's not just a reporter, she's been an active player. Perhaps she's just protecting her own ass from having her own active involvement revealed. Which also may be why she never wrote a story on Plame, unlike Cooper and others who have cooperated with the grand jury, in an attempt to publically keep her distance from the issue.

[earth mom]

34. You bring up good points-I've thought many times that the media

could be afraid or even blackmailed somehow. I also wonder about the circumstances of John Kennedy Jrs. crash...

:tinfoilhat:

[agincourt]

23. Well,

are we going to hear any more of "Bush is dumb and corrupt, but he's not evil so quit these conspiracy theories!"

[Vitruvius]

24. Judith Miller is a nasty BFEE gangster -- and subject to BFEE omerta.

Of course she's scared.

Once you accept favors from any kind of Mafia, they OWN you; once you play along with them for your personal advantage, they OWN you, once you do business with them in any way, they OWN you.

Miller made her choices...

[jsamuel]

26. Don't be a fool, This statement incriminates the WH in the public eye

Stop bashing her with all this crazy conspiracy stuff and help change the media's focus from the 1st amendment to the criminality of the WH and how she (and the rest of the media) are terrified of the Bush Administration.

[jsamuel]

27. Trying to say this on AAR

[laureloak]

28. What if Miller has become the focus of the investigation? n/t

[jsamuel]

29. I seriously doubt that

It is much more likely that she has information on people in the WH that are not Rove, which could incriminate the entire "White House Iraqi Group".

[laureloak]

35. The Source of the Trouble is an article written by

Franklin Foer - an excellent read on Judith Miller.

[jazzjunkysue]

30. Judy, Judy, Judy.

Sleep with snakes, they all bite, eventually.

[autorank]

31. Relative risk: BushCo versus Chicago Prosecutor. I'll take BushCo

...because the real-deal Chicago prosecutor is both tough and competent. BushCo just cheats and breaks the rules. They've not done so well in their little plans.

Speak up Judy! It's the least you can do after sending all those people to their maiming and deaths through your Chalabi-based, single source propaganda on WMD.

You lied, now admit it and make an amend!

[TankLV]

33. Hmmmm.

Makes one pause to think.

[derby378]

36. Is Judith Miller actually CIA?

That's what my wife's thinking. Wasn't she an embedded reporter in Iraq who actually directed a mission that nabbed a higher-up in the insurgency or Saddam's government or something? ginbarn is thinking she's a player in Operation Mockingbird.

[Disturbed]

37. Another angle.

If she is truely afraid then after she gets out of jail, if she isn't killed in there, she should get plastic surgery and move to another country under another name. If she has info. that could get her killed then she cannot remain in Amerika. She will be silenced for ever of she has info that would topple the Regime that she whored for because they cannot trust that she would never reveal what she knows.

[TaleWgnDg]

39. Hhhhmmmmmm . . .

.
Hhhhmmmmmm . . .

Would you kindly tell us where you found, i.e., a cite or a "resource" hyperlink for:

(1.) that "Judy Miller says she will not testify because she is AFRAID FOR HER LIFE!" What's the source for your quote? Did I miss something?

(2.) As well as, where did you get this Miller assertion about "She is not talking about any media matters here. She is saying that the 'risk' she takes by testifying is that 'this' government would have the power to do something to harm her, her family, or her friends."

Before you get defensive or feel attacked, I am raising this because you appear to be reading into Ms. Miller's statements and inferring assertions from that CBS article, stuff that may not be there. After all, can you read Miller's mind? I know I cannot.

For example, the CBS article quotes Miller as saying:

"I won't testify. The risks are too great. The government is too powerful."

I take Miller's words for their express meaning, not any assumptions that I may "read between the lines." That is, "I won't testify" means exactly that hence she's in jail for civil contempt of court. "The risks are too great" means anything that Miller thinks it means and not what you or I think it means. For example, she could be alluding to another assertion CBS has in its article:

"Prior to the (federal district court) hearing, Miller argued that it is imperative for reporters to honor their commitments to provide cover to sources who will only reveal important information if they are assured anonymity. Forcing reporters to renege on the pledge undercuts their ability to do their job, she said."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4064299

To do otherwise than to shut-up and not reveal sources according to Miller, could therefore evaporate any government sources for her journalism career. That's one hell of a risk for her! As well as, "the risks are too great" and "the government is too powerful" could mean that Miller feels that since the government is her sole source of government information that it would be risky to reveal sources and again have them dry up which could kill her political/government journalism career. How will she obtain government info that's newsworthy without having an innie in the mire of ("powerful") government?

I didn't read anywhere where Miller stated "that the 'risk' she takes by testifying is that 'this' government would have the power to do something to harm her, her family, or her friends." Can you show me if I am incorrect?

The game of assumptions becomes an all too easy gambit. Merely because Fox News does it, doesn't in turn mean that we DUers should do it too. Let's not grab the football and run down the field to the wrong goal a la Freeper-style!

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[drm604]

47. Correct.

Too many people here, and in other threads, are reading things into her statement that aren't there. She most likely was talking about first amendment protections for the press. Forcing reporters to give up anonymous whistle blowers gives the government to much power to suppress the press. She wasn't talking about the government's power to harm her personally, she was talking about its power to suppress information.
That said, I'm not defending her on this. In this instance she's not protecting a whistle blower, she's protecting a person or persons who retaliated against a whistle blower. She's perverting the whole principle and using it as an excuse to protect the government rather than the whistle blower.

[stickdog]

50. You are 100% right, and I was easily bamboozled.

Here is Chalaib's whore's statement in full context:

http://www.rcfp.org/shields_and_subpoenas/miller_statement.html

If journalists cannot be trusted to guarantee confidentiality, then journalists cannot function and there cannot be a free press. Your honor, I believe that a free press depends now more than ever on people willing to express their views, particularly those in government. From my experience, and the experience of investigative journalists like me, I know that many of these people in government will not talk to reporters if we cannot be trusted to protect their identity. The risks are too great; the government is too powerful; the country is too polarized.


She's basically saying that she has to protect Rove's right to plant stories with full confidentiality because government henchmen like Rove are too good at using their power to stifle dissent.

Her statement is 100% full of shit.

[jsamuel]

51. geez, what a crapy quote by CBS, messed up the whole post

sorry

[Garbo 2004]

52. And this is a "journalist" who previously outed one of her sources who had

only given her info on the basis of confidentiality. And furthermore, Miller misrepresented what the source had told her. So much for Miller's "journalistic integrity."

[rucky]

40. If soldiers can risk their lives fighting for fake "freedom"

why can't "intellectuals" risk theirs when our freedom really is at stake?

[TWiley]

43. Good point.

However, risks are for those OTHER people to take. The modern reporters duty is clearly to spin it into more bushtapo propaganda.

[TWiley]

41. Maybe her pride is so great.

That she cannot admit deliberately misleading the public about WMD. To testify might demand the loss of her own credibility.

Republicans will eat their young I tell you.

[cynatnite]

42. It's called martyrdom with a smile n/t

[TWiley]

44. How about greed with a halo?

It is all the fashion this season.

[Kilroy003]

45. I disagree, I think she is talking about the 1st amendment

She's saying that the risk to journalism, and confidential sources, is 'too great' and that government already has too much power over the press.

I think...

Just my $0.02.

[Tsiyu]

46. Yet. our Nation is run by the Godly folk

*cue angelic music* who love Jeeebus and have brought honor back to the White House.

:sarcasm:

[stickdog]

48. Well, I suspected that was her motivation all along.

But she never implied as much.

Here is her statement in context:

http://www.rcfp.org/shields_and_subpoenas/miller_statement.html

If journalists cannot be trusted to guarantee confidentiality, then journalists cannot function and there cannot be a free press. Your honor, I believe that a free press depends now more than ever on people willing to express their views, particularly those in government. From my experience, and the experience of investigative journalists like me, I know that many of these people in government will not talk to reporters if we cannot be trusted to protect their identity. The risks are too great; the government is too powerful; the country is too polarized.