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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 08:03 PM
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Heard a fantastic CBC interview this AM --about the mess we're in....
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Tariq Ali from Britain described what people were thinking, and without reservation, said the public believes the London attacks were definitely "blowback" from Iraq. He really went into how the West is making things worse with their fear of "non-democratic regimes" winning elections, mentioning Egypt and Saudi Arabia in particular. He feels that even if fundies got in, they would be ousted in favor of govs. that would separate religion from politics. He cited Turkey as a prime example. What really struck me, however, is that much of his message is the message you expect Clark to be saying, unequivocally, if he weren't stuck at FAUX ....This is the message America really should be hearing, rather than the "Bush has a second wind" crap that we get from the Los Angeles Times.
Ali was asked if this would boost Bush and he said he wasn't so sure...that he might get a small bump on the right, but that America seems to be catching on, late, but still, catching on.
Let's hope he's right....

Unfortunately, there is no audio but Ali has a web site full of good pieces..

There is audio of him debating Christopher Hitchens on Democracy Now!
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Sunday Edition, CBC 7/10/05


Host Bob Carty in conversation with writer and historian Tariq Ali. Tariq Ali is a prolific novelist, playwright and historian, who's spent his entire life answering questions like these ... enraging everyone from Bush and Blair to his fellow Muslims along the way.

He was born in Lahore, Pakistan. His early childhood co-incided with the years when Britain carved up the sub-continent along religious lines, and some 2 million people lost their lives in the ensuing sectarian violence.

Tariq Ali has described himself as a non-Muslim Muslim ¿ someone born into Muslim culture, but who was raised without religion - declaring himself an atheist at the age of 12. Mr. Ali left Pakistan when his student radicalism made him a target of the military regime. He studied at Oxford where he became involved in student politics again - in particular in opposing the US war in Vietnam. It's not surprising that 4 decades later he is an outspoken opponent the British and American military involvement in Iraq. But he is also the author a a number of novels that explore the intersection of the Christian West and the world of Islam.

Mr. Ali is the editor of the New Left Review, and a regular contributor to the Guardian newspaper.

Ali's web site....lots of good articles
http://www.tariqali.org /
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 08:04 PM
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1. Just out of curiosity
How do you get CBC in New Mexico? Is it on satellite? CBC in my opinion has always covered this better and more realistically than US media.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 08:08 PM
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3. I listen to Radio Canada Intl. via shortwave...much of their programming
is now from the CBC!!!!!

I also listen to the BBC although it doesn't broadcast to the US. I pick up broadcasts to Asia and Africa in the AM and Latin America later on. I have no I idea why, but where I am in Southern NM, things aimed at Africa come my way...Deutsche Welle, BBC, and others....
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 08:12 PM
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5. Cool
I'm in Toronto and know alot of CBCers, I've even worked there myself from time to time, they are good people doing a good job. :toast:
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 09:10 PM
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8. Well, if you see any of them, tell them they are GREAT!!!
I love all the RCI/CBC programming and listen EVERY DAY!!!!
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:03 PM
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13. Will do
I see some of them every day =)
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 08:44 PM
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6. I want a short wave radio!
How do you get one?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 09:07 PM
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7. Radio Shack used to carry Grundig, which is what I have....
I also got one from Universal Radio in Ohio....they run specials and also have used...
There is another outfit that's well known...if you Google Shortwave Radios or Grundig, you'll turn up the best known places.

I have a Grundig YB400PE ....It costs under $150 and includes AM FM all shortwave bands and SSB, which is fun for listening to hams and marine stuff.

I no longer listen to AM radio, it's just shortwave for me!

There are several very good sites which also list schedules for programs in English, listed hour by hour....I print one out and use it throughout the day and night.....
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 03:28 PM
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15. THANK YOU!
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elare Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 09:16 PM
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9. You can also listen online
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 08:07 PM
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2. This mess were in
This Mess We're In
Album: Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea

Can you hear them?
The helicopters?
I'm in New York
No need for words now
We sit in silence
You look me
In the eye directly
You met me
I think it's Wednesday
The evening
The mess we're in and
The city sun sets over me

Night and day
I dream of
Making-love
To you now baby
Love-making
On-screen
Impossible dream
And I have seen
The sunrise
Over the river
The freeway
Reminding
Of this mess we're in and
The city sun sets over me

What were you wanting?
I just want to say
Don't ever change now baby
And thank you
I don't think we will meet again
And you must leave now
Before the sunrise
Above skyscrapers
The sin and
This mess we're in and
The city sun sets over me
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 08:10 PM
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4. Bu$h's second wind is just Butt gas...
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AlwaysQuestion Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 09:46 PM
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12. Funny, but true
Nt
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 09:18 PM
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10. Clarke would NEVER say that...
He's a general of the military-industrial complex, and Wesley and Richard alike have the strategic interests of the US at mind, not the compassion for the Muslim world.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:50 PM
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14. Clark is on record saying that Iraq has become a hotbed for
the training of fighters that are moving into Western Europe....sounds like "blowback" to me....
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 09:20 PM
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11. BBC has lots of channels broadcast on the web..if u have hi speed....
you can hear all the channels for listeners only in the UK as well as various BBC international channels.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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