I am still pissed that not ONE senator signed

[mandyky]

about election 2000. This part of F911 still brings me to tears.

[BrklynLiberal]

1. A moment in history that could have changed everything........

[kath]

2. Me too, Mandy, me too. That part of F911 was unbearably hard to watch.

[high density]

3. Yeah but did Al Gore ask them not to sign?

Maybe I'm just hoping that Al Gore asked the senators not to sign it for some reason.

[mandyky]

7. No, and that kinda crap is why i voted Nader

Al Gore no spine
John Kerry concede

I am just sick at heart over the spineless in our party.

[fedupinBushcountry]

23. Get your facts straight

Al Gore did ask all of them not to participate.

Not one Democratic senator joined their cause in 2001. Vice President Al Gore, who lost to Bush, did not want the protest, and the Democratic senators respected his wishes. Boxer said Thursday she made a mistake.

"Four years ago I didn't intervene, I was asked by Al Gore not to do so, and I didn't do so,'' said Boxer. "Frankly, looking back on it, I wish I had. I do. I have to admit that. I'm not one that likes to admit mistakes. But, it really wasn't about Al Gore, it was about the voters, and I made a mistake."

[H2O Man]

4. Ir's a powerful scene

from a powerful movie. I think it speaks of the frustration that those of us who are not represented feel.

[stevedeshazer]

5. You're not alone.

I'm still incredulous.

[stellanoir]

6. OMG

We've gone through this a thousand times. Gore asked that they not sign. He felt that further in fighting was not in the best interest of the nation. I'm quite sure he feels differently now.

[mandyky]

8. well, in hind sight he was wrong

and i still am mad at him and the Senate. At least Barbara Boxer signed 2004. Thank god!

[stellanoir]

15. Be mad at him then

but realize that coupled with 9/11, the "so called" Patriot Act., and the passage of HAVA enabled our fragile democracy to become completelt corporately controlled. It's horrendous. Could Gore have stopped it? We'll never know. Did he see what was coming? I seriously doubt it. Can we fix it ? I can only hope.

Oh shit now I'm answering my own questions like Rumsferaldo does. Bedtime for me. Sleep well all.

[Spike from MN]

19. Yes, and Boxer also said that she regretted not signing it in 2000.

I saw her speech on C-SPAN after signing the one in 2004. She said she didn't sign the one in 2000 because Al Gore had asked everyone not to for the reasons stellanoir posted. She abided by his decision but later regretted it. She wasn't about to let the same thing happen in 2004.

[UTUSN]

9. Honey, The (FIXED) Numbers Weren't There AND

the Dem hierarchy decided not to pursue it. Maxine WATERS breaks my heart, but it's PAST, o.k.? (Not OVER in our hearts.)

[G_j]

10. Cowards forever exposed in F 9/11

for all to see and remember

May they take the shame with them into retirement, & to the grave.
EVERY single one of them!

[Ian David]

11. It used to do the same to me. And then I watched Lieberman for 4 years...

If it weren't for 9-11 and the war, it would have been worth 4 years of Bush to not end up with Lieberman running for President in 2008.

Lieberman really is, as someone put it, "Bush Lite."

on edit:
OK, it still really pisses me off anyway.

[marmar]

12. Yes

The dramatic music, everything in that scene is heartbreaking and enraging. Barbara Lee rocks my world!

[jojo54]

13. The part that pissed me off the most was when MM

asked some congressmen/women if they would try to get their children to sign up to go to Iraq. One congressperson spoke, but the others had no words and their silence told a large scale story.

[autorank]

14. mandyky, THANK you for posting this. A day of shame, days since then...

...each day shaming the Democratic Party for not forcing the FL2000 disenfranchisement into public view. The Florida-NAACP consent decree established that NAACP's claims about deliberate disenfranchisement were true but allowed FL to skate with a low key admission. Of course, it was low key because our DNC and DEMs then didn't want to make a stink of (a) 50,000 black Americans in Florida wrongfully taken off the registration rolls and (b) the fact that had just 1% of those tried to vote, Gore would have won.

The additional problem is that DNC's incomplete report on Ohio 2004 made one great point, the voting problems there were deliberately aimed on the BASIS of race. Well, damn. Then they spent 1/2 the report with obscure statistics proving that Bush really won Ohio AND they failed to mention Florida 2000. Pathetic, weak, that's why we get far fewer votes than we could. Why vote for someone who doesn't believe enough in him/herself to fight hard for their rights.

NEW LEADERS FOR A NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY

[ispeculate]

16. That scene is an old wound for me...

I watched it on CSPAN live as it was happening.

When I saw it again on F911 it made me cry.

A guy can only take so much, ya know?

[autorank]

17. Confession time, me too. The last two times were at the end

of "Glory" and before that, "Old Yeller."

Tragic, and Gore having to preside. Hate to say this but we should have known about Kerry by his posture during that.

I think Gore will come back and I think it will blow us all away.

[BCBud]

18. Yes, very sad

I teared up in that part of the movie also.

[newyawker99]

21. Hi BCBud!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[BCBud]

22. Thanks!!!

[mandyky]

20. kick

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