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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:02 AM
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Nero, the Fire in Rome, MIHOP, LIHOP, Fiddling, and reading "My Pet Goat"
Just in case anyone thinks CT, MIHOP and LIHOP are recent inventions of post-nuclear radiation tin-foil-hatter mental mutants, I'd like to point out that people have been speculating about CT's, MIHOP and LIHOP for as long as...as long as there have been conspiracies, and as long as those in power have let things happen or made things happen on purpose.

Case in point, the fire in Rome in 68 AD. Now at first the official explanation was that it was just an accident. Then people started speculating that Nero started it, or at least "fiddled while Rome burned". (Compare "Nero fiddle while Rome burned" with "Bush read "My Pet Goat" while the towers burned").

"...there is no new thing under the sun." Ecclesiastes 1:9

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P.S. Does anybody know when "LIHOP" and "MIHOP" were added to the DU spell checker dictionary?
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:06 AM
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1. umm
I am still new, and just want to know what the hell LIHOP and MIHOP mean. Can someone enlighten me pretty please?
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:13 AM
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3. LIHOP = Let It Happen On Purpose. MIHOP = Make it Happen on Purpose
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:14 AM
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4. lihop mihop
let it happen on purpose
made it happen on purpose
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:15 AM
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lihop mihop
let it happen on purpose
made it happen on purpose
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:15 AM
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5. lihop mihop
let it happen on purpose
made it happen on purpose
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:16 AM
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6. LIHOP & MIHOP is a shorthand way to refer to the Bush admin. role in 9/11
As in,
Let It Happen On Purpose or Make It Happen On Purpose.

And just bear this in mind, if you think this is just baseless, unfounded, idle :tinfoilhat: speculation:


OPPORTUNITY: 9/11 War Games Cheney was managing multiple war games and terror drills on 9/11 that paralyzed U.S. Air Force response.

* In May of 2001 Dick Cheney was placed directly in charge of managing the "seamless integration" of all training exercises throughout the federal government and military agencies by presidential mandate.

* The morning of 9/11 began with multiple training exercises of war games and terror drills which Cheney, as mandated by the president, was placed in charge of managing.

* War games & terror drills included live-fly exercises with military aircraft posing as hijacked aircraft over the United States, as well as simulated exercises that placed "false blips" (radar injects indicating virtual planes) on FAA radar screens. One exercise titled NORTHERN VIGILANCE pulled Air Force fighters up into Canada simulating a Russian air attack, so there were very few fighters remaining on the east coast to respond. All of this paralyzed Air Force response ensuring that fighter jocks couldn't stop 9/11.

* An unknown individual or command center referred to by Major Don Arias of NORAD as the "maestro" coordinated the war games. It is possible there was more than one maestro, but no one will name names. FTW has asked this question of everyone in relevant government and military positions, to no avail. Our investigation has found the maestro was either Dick Cheney, General Ralph "Ed" Eberhart, or both.

* Whoever was coordinating the Air Force war games was under the management and direction of Dick Cheney, who was also in charge of managing a terror drill being set up on the West Side of downtown New York on 9/11 titled Tripod 2. This exercise set up a command and control center on 9/11 that was configured exactly like the one lost that morning in WTC 7. It was the perfect command center to respond to the crisis, and it was under Dick Cheney's management before the hijackings occurred. How convenient.

* Dick Cheney was one of the main government officials deciding that such extensive war games would take place on 9/11. This was when American intelligence had collected dozens of warnings from governments and intelligence agencies indicating that terrorists were planning to hijack civilian aircraft and crash them into American targets on the ground during the week of September 9th, 2001.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011805_simplify_case.shtml#bullmeans
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:08 AM
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2. I get the feeling that when someone denounces theories outside
the loop, it somehow makes them feel superiour and all they have to offer in rebuttle is that' Oh no way, it couldn't have happened like that, your nuts", the funny thing is, neither side can prove such is or is not true, so to just denounce such theories out of hand is not at all productive in attempting to to get to the bottom of some issues...

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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:22 AM
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7. I find alot of the "tinfoil hat" theories
plausable, it's just hard to get past the revulsion at the prospect that they are true. Of course I guess that is partly how conspiracies are successful, if it seems so off the wall that people have a hard time believing it, it is less likely to be believed. (I know that is circular reasoning, but that's the best way I can express the thought)
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:28 AM
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10. I found your reasoning to be very sound. And I agree with you
that to dismiss them out of hand right out of the starting gate limits the possibilities of every discovering the truth, strange as some do sound at times, one should take a moment to consider why such would not be feasible instead of simply ignoring what could very well be the key...
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:24 AM
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8. in all honesty
If any particular "offensive incident" stirs a public outcry, it's most likely because it's LIHOP/MIHOP with a propaganda machine to hype it. People in general know there are maniacs out there, and that they can do serious damage, and there's not much you can do about it unless your job is in law enforcement.

There is no correct response but going about one's business unless one is a direct party to the event or a victim of it. Outcries against the purported assailant(s) just buy into the propaganda. Outcries for improvements to law enforcement merely justify the curtailment of civil liberties. Instances of the latter are in actuality counter-propaganda campaigns against what's perceived as foreign or otherwise destructive domestic influence. Of course, the subjectivity of whether behavior is a product of foreign influence or genuine domestic sentiment is highly problematic.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 01:25 AM
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9. Check out this site
http://www.physics911.net/

I don't like some of the not proper language in some of the posts, however, worth a gander.
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 02:41 AM
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11. excellent site-lots of observations and all is documented-makes sense n/t
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 03:04 PM
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12. 911Truth.org is packed with links and resources
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 09:58 PM
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13. Thanks for link!
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