Freepermania: Working Women (again)

[janx]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1440258/posts?page=35

Working women more likely to divorce

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/07/11/ndiv11.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/07/11/ixhome.html


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Really? Gee, I wonder why?

[Triana]

1. Of course. Duh. They have the financial independence not to..

...have to stay married and miserable (if they're miserably married). That's one big point of women having jobs and some financial independence. I don't see the problem with that. That's one big reason a lot of men don't want their wives working though.

[SoCalDem]

2. Women are more likely to divorce men

..All women "work"...and perhaps the ones with OUTSIDE-the home employent end up divorcing because they still have all the other duties too..or because once they are gainfully employed, they no longer "need" to be married..

Methinks the guys should do a little soul searching:)

[janx]

3. And women too.

It would certainly make better marriages. But maybe I'm just an idealistic "liberal."

;-)

[uppityperson]

5. I don't work. I just sit around all day eating bonbons and reading DU

while my servants massage my feet. I will never get divorced. snort.

[janx]

8. Same here. My kids

sailed through life without my financial or domestic support. :rofl:

[uppityperson]

10. The main problem is deciding which scented oil to use on my ft.

Good thing welfare pays so well. :rofl:

[janx]

11. Don't forget the food stamp coupons, because all of us,

especially single moms, are supposed to use them. ;-)

[uppityperson]

14. Puts a crimp into being married. I know, how about commonlaw

that way I could get foodstamps AND be married. Wait, I'd have to get divorced first, then commonlaw married. I'd be divorced. Even if I was married again. and that would be a sin.

[janx]

15. This is confusing as hell.

Just to get food stamps?

[uppityperson]

17. Too difficult for me to figure out too. Just being silly.

Back to working women get divorced, so women shouldn't work. So a man would never divorce a woman who isn't working? aha. Tell them that that's what every woman should do that is worried about her husband getting a divorce, quit working.

[janx]

18. Somehow

I don't think that would fly... :rofl:

We have our mothers and older sisters to thank for that.

[FreedomAngel82]

4. Oh brother

Just another way to get us to stay home. :eyes:

[NMMNG]

6. Maybe because they have the capability?

Women who are able to support themselves (and any children they might have) are more likely to do so, rather than remaining in an unhappy or abusive marriage just for the sake of financial support.

[janx]

12. YES. That's obvious.

:rofl:

[FormerRepublican]

7. Working women more likely to divorce

...Especially if they're married to freepers. Didn't read the fine print, did ya? ;)

LOL!

[janx]

9. That might make one

tempted to use birth control and put on shoes! :rofl:

[mcctatas]

13. LOL

probably because they are sick of working their fingers to the bone while their evil freeper hubbies sit on the "internets" flogging the bishop to porn and pondering the coming rapture!

[janx]

16. Or flipping through misogynist porn the old fashioned way...

the magazines, the magazines and videos! :rofl:

[FormerRepublican]

22. Now, now...

"the magazines, the magazines and videos!"

If the freeper didn't have instructional materials, they would never figure it out! And don't forget the difficulty in exchanging paper toys with real, LIVE women! We mustn't look down on the poor and unfortunate of this world (even to advance freeper population control).

And it does give added insight into all those divorces ...!!

[janx]

25. That type of behavior transcends political parties,

but I recognize your knowledge of it. It's pretty bad.

[Kipepeo]

19. One of the freepers said

"A recent study showed that women do about an hour more housework than men, and that men spend about an hour more on the job than do women. Sounds like a wash to me. Fair and balanced."

I'd like to see them cite a statistic for that. All of the studies I've seen show that women do a lot more than 1 extra hour of housework a week upon cohabitating with a man - and that men do far fewer. The freeper won't cite a statistic or source but I will: http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/1889/menhousework.html

A researcher at the University of Michigan's Population Studies Center found that after couples marry or move in together, women do about four additional hours a week of housework, while men do three hours less.

edit, Here's another: http://asweb.artsci.uc.edu/sociology/kunzctr/stats.htm

On average, women ages 18-65 spend about 30 hours per week in paid employment and 22 hours doing housework (see also Arlie Hochschild's, The Second Shift, 1989). Men average about ten hours per week doing housework, a figure which changes little when their wives work and they have young children in the household.

edited once more to add my opinion on the working woman divorce statistic: If you're not working outside the home and your partner won't lift a finger to help you with domestic work I can see not being bothered - it's a give and take and you each contribute in your own ways to the household. But if you're both putting in similar work hours outside of the home and your partner won't put in a fair share of domestic work I'd think you'd start to get tired of it. Women have moved into the working world but there hasn't been a similar shift in the domestic.

[pnorman]

20. "Leader or Loafer"

From that same webpage:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

pnorman
On edit: NOTHING to add, other than those smilies describe me to a Tee. That photo pair is a Freeper classic --- a "KEEPER".

[janx]

21. Look at their wives...

:rofl:

Debutante or scholar?

[deadparrot]

23. Wouldn't you rather a person be divorced

than to live in misery and to raise children in such an environment?

And if the *reason* for the divorce is simply because the woman is working, then it doesn't sound like a very healthy relationship to begin with. Not to mention that the freeps should keep in mind that not every household can survive on a single salary. :eyes:

[DanCa]

24. That would make too much sense

But I agree with what your saying. You know I know alot of good people and for some reason or another the marriage just doesn't work. It's none of our buisness really too decide what two people should do really.And than theres are the really abusive cases which I would rather not think about that.

[mr blur]

26. Check out this moron:

"Working women often don't care as much about their children as do women who sacrifice to stay home and raise their children"

Doesn't seem to grasp that havingto go out to work and not be with your kids is a sacrifice.

[Kipepeo]

27. Well, to FR's benefit there are at least some hard-workin women

who won't stand for that sexist shit. Conservative Cat said:

"Oh yeah- I don't give a darn about my kids because I work.
I am up at 3:30 every morning, dragging my happy rear to work, so I can be home by the time the older two are home from school. I work so my kids can have a roof over their head and food on the table. I guess that's not caring about my kids. I know many woman who would rather go on public assistance than get a job, when the family clearly needs it. A friend of mine lost his job years ago and while he was out of work (for 2-3 years), they lost their house, savings, EVERYTHING, and his wife never even considered a part-time job to help keep the finances together. I care about my kids enough to provide for them."

I want to take Conservative Cat out for a girls night drink and tell her she is barking up the wrong political message board. :(

[Lecky]

28. That's what I don't understand

I know there are women who post at free republic, why do they stand for this type of crap? Do they pretend like it doesn't exist or (even more frightening) agree with these pigs?

Are they so scared of appearing "liberal", that they can't even stick up for themselves?

...pathetic

[girl gone mad]

30. These women don't belong on freerepublic.

However did they get brianwashed into thinking they they fit into the modern day Republican party?

Look at this one:

... Women, my friend, are not a commodity. We are human beings with needs, likes, dislikes, etc. just like you men! It just enrages me when people blame divorce rates on women working. Whose idea was it for us to have to go out to work anyway? Don't punish us just because we turned out to be good at it. Isn't that what this boils down to anyway?"\

Does she not know what her party has been preaching for the past 20+ years?

[Kipepeo]

32. True

The freeper men's posts on this subject are a dime a dozen - nothing surprising or shocking there. But the women - goodness, the women - they're fascinating. What keeps part of their mind locked down when the part that experiences sexism is aware and able to articulate it? What keeps them there?

[girl gone mad]

29. or this one:

" And if women stayed home the value of their husband's (and of other men's)labor could double!"

Just what kind of a fantasy world are these nutjobs living in?

Can you imagine what would happen if women stopped being doctors, nurses, lawyers, scientists, teachers, etc. to stay home and take care of their husbands?

First of all, The cost of these services would skyrocket. Unless the husband was working in a job that benefitted from the sudden reduction in labor, the couple wouldn't be able to afford to go to the doctor and property taxes would soar. Certain jobs could be outsourced, but we would also need to bring in significant numbers of immigrants, something conservatives are opposed to.

The majority of people would be screwed if conservative Christians got their wish.

[Kipepeo]

31. Not to mention that a whole lotta low-paying domestic-sphere

jobs wouldn't be filled by men. I'd like to see the male freepers volunteer to fill all the empty hotel-maid jobs or the countless paid-less-than-shit waitress jobs or the, god forbid, housekeeper/nanny/babysitting jobs. Step up and fill these low-paying jobs that people look down on but expect there is always a woman (mostly of-color and frequently undocumented) to do it - please freeper men, show us how you'd "double" your "labor!" - and willingly? Good god I'd hafta see this to believe it.