Questions regarding Plame-Cooper-Rove, who broke law?

[uppityperson]

Edited to add or link to where I could find this information.

Pardon for my questions about the basics but I am getting confused and would appreciate a quick summary. Thank you.

(Rove) told Cooper/Miller about Plame (whether by name or pointing and saying "her"). Cooper, working for Time, emailed Newsweek about this. (Rove) is in serious deep shit for leaking the name of an undercover agent.

Questions:
1. Who published about Plame? Newsweek, Time, WA Post?
2. (Rove) is in deep shit for leaking the name. Is (newspaper/ magazine) in deep shit for publishing it? Is Cooper/Miller in deep shit for contributing?

Thank you and sorry if this is repetitious but I am trying to get it straight to talk with my son about (teenpeace kid I've ranted and raved about).

[Canuckistanian]

1. Whoever connected "CIA operative" to "Valerie Plame"

It's very simple. The WH official is guilty. Be it Rove, Scooter, or Cheney, whoever made the connection and related it to the outside (non-secure world) should be strung up.

Novak, who publicized it widely, is a co-conspirator, but may get off because of feigned (or actual) stupidity.

And I think Miller is the key to the whole story.

[uppityperson]

2. So Novak is guilty of publishing

but didn't know what he was doing?Ah, this is what the yelling about Novak is. I thought he was just a columnist. Is he the publisher, and should the paper/magazine's publisher be guilty too? Thanks for that.

I'm doing searches on all the names and coming up with answers but still confused. Thanks canukiperson

[Canuckistanian]

9. That's my guess.

I've heard that within the Beltway, it was "common knowledge" that Plame was married to Joe Wilson.

Novak MAY have assumed that it was known that Plame worked in the CIA.

But still, in his column, he referred to Plame as a "CIA operative".
That means she was an undercover agent. This had never been reported anywhere before.

Thus, either Novak is either stupid, careless and sloppy or he was used by Rove.

And he doesn't seem to be that stupid.

[joemurphy]

3. Here's what I know:

Rove told Cooper about "Wilson's wife" -- at least that's what Cooper's notes show. He claims he didn't know or mention her name.

I don't know anything about Cooper emailing Newsweek. I don't know where you got that.

1. Novak published about Plame calling her a "CIA operative" in his column in a Chicago paper. Time ran an article three days after Novak's.

2. No, the newspaper/magazines aren't in any trouble

3. Cooper isn't. We don't know what Miller's role in this is yet. She's not talking. Some think she may have tipped Rove to Plame being Wilson's wife.

[uppityperson]

4. I read (DU last couple days) about Cooper working/emailing

that he worked for 1 and somehow sent an email to the other (Newsweek/Time).

Novak published where? So Time published after Novak so they aren't in trouble because Novak already had published?

I am confused about a bunch of stuff.

[lizzieforkerry]

5. Novak originally wrote the article

and in it he named Valerie Plame and callled her an operaive- Novak code for undercover. He has testified for the Grand Jury so it is believed that he struck a deal or lied abou this source.

Cooper wrote about Plame after Novak but sited in the story that inside officials were his source. Oops- that is what they want to know. Cooper claimed that he wouldn't reveal his source so he was going to go to jail- until his source told him he could. Time had already agreed to release his emails and notes about the story anyway because a judge ordered that they had to. These emails were then leaked to Newsweek. Some people are upset that they listened and released the info. Time's reasoning is that they are not above the law.

Miller wasn't released by her source to tell who he was so she went to jail- she never wrote an article. She was however, a big cheerleader for the war and it is beleived that they didn't let her testify because when you are in front of a grand jusry they can ask you anything, it doesn't have to be about the specific case. This could open her up to a lot more questioning that someone in the WH might not want answered.

So there you go Novak wrote about it first but squealed and got off scott free
Cooper wrote about it second but decided to testify so he will be fine
Miller didn't write about it but refuses to give up her source so she is sitting in jail.

[uppityperson]

6. well, wow, thanks

That answers what I was hoping to find out. Are they all nuts?(rhetorical question) So Novak and Cooper and possibly Miller were all told by (? and possibly ? and who knows else at this point).

Novak published somewhere with anonymous source. Cooper published somewhere saying "inside officials" as source. Miller did not publish.

Novak testified (perjury?) and got off so far. Cooper is testifying after being released by his source. Miller is not testifying, no source release, possibly knows stuff that WH does not want asked so is putting in her time in jail, to be released eventually with favors built up (assumption there).

Thank you. I appreciate the succinct summary.

Edited to add: so Time/Newsweek released the emails. Was this because then they would not be liable for publishing Cooper's story? Where did Novak publish? I found an online article, was this all?

[jsamuel]

7. dupe

[jsamuel]

8. Here is my sum up

The Gravity of the Crime

There has been a lot left out of a recent news story because of many different reasons, so I am going to try to sum up some very important information that is not seeing much light in the media.

Valerie Plame was an undercover CIA agent. What you probably don't know is that her specialization was in WMD proliferation. That's right! She had contacts all over Europe and the Middle-east who were talking to her about inside information about terrorists seeking WMD's.

Since she was outed by "someone" (more like "some people"), over 90 people (her contacts) could have been assassinated. Yep! The US network for finding WMD in terrorist's hands could be practically gone. So, this crime would be considered "treason", and if you believe that we are at war, then it would be during a time of war. That crime is punishable by death.

Why would any American want to out her then, right? Now here is where we get to motive.

Joseph Wilson, who is Valerie Plame's husband, was investigating reports for the government of Saddam Hussein gathering WMD. He flew to Africa to look at documents that said that Saddam was trying to acquire "yellow cake" uranium. Long story short, the documents were proven to be fakes. They were, in a word, fixed. Since this was pretty much the only evidence for Saddam seeking WMD, it would throw the case for war out the window. Mr. Wilson started to tell the press and the rest of the government so that everyone would know that what we were being told was a "rock hard case" of WMD seeking by Saddam was being fixed. (this whole thing is backed up by the Downing Street Memos as well)

"Some people" didn't like that Mr. Wilson was calling attention to the fixed evidence for war. Even worse, his wife was in a position, through her contacts that knew who was going after WMD's, to prove that Saddam was not seeking WMD's. Those people had to take out this husband and wife team. Mr. Wilson wouldn't play the game and his family was punished for it. More importantly, our entire network of WMD proliferation investigations could have been destroyed. This goes to show that "whoever" did this was not as concerned about WMD's in terrorists' hands as they were concerned about making sure we were going to war.

So then, who would benefit from this? Who was it that was so concerned that we must invade Iraq? There turns out that there was a secret group of people known as the "White House Iraqi Group", who's job it was to get the American people to want to go to war with Iraq (I am not making this up, even though it might sound like it, it is from court documents). This group of people consisted of Dick Cheney, Bush, Karl Rove (Bush's advisor), and a few other top WH officials. We have already found out that the prosecutor is investigating this group. We know that Karl Rove is at least one of the people who talked to reporters in order to get Valerie Plame outed. Since much of the courts info is secret I cannot tell you whether or not Cheney or Bush are going to be indicted.


Thanks for reading,
jsamuel