Bush may start another war, with Iran

[CoffeePlease1947]

Bush has told Iran they must prove they DO NOT have nuclear weapons or face military action by the United States.

Is that not what he said to Iraqi? How exactly does a nation prove that it does NOT have nuclear weapons? Iraqi prooved it did not have nuclear weapons, and they still got attacked.

Any thoughts on this? Is he just bluffing or will we be attacking Iran?

Mike

[sangha]

1. With half the military tied down in Iraq and Afghanistan

it doesn't seem likely we'll be attacking anyone soon. But then again, this is Bush*, so you never know.

[Mari333]

2. sure lets send in the Boy Scouts

thats all thats left.

[Solomon]

3. LOL Damn Mari. You made me laugh.

And laugh good. No, Bush just wants to distract us from the Iraqi nightmare. He can't invade Iran, not without another terrist attack.

[CoffeePlease1947]

4. I didn't say that it made sense

I am just saying that is what he said. Besides, we don't have to send troops. We could just lob bombs at innocent people, er, I mean military targets such as middle schools, I mean terrorists hiding in middle schools and using children for human shields.

Mike

[Solomon]

12. You got a point Coffee. I didn't think of that. He could pull a

Clinton and just lob bombs instead of invade. As long as we're killing brown folks, americans will love it.

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

6. What about the Hitler Youth?

[frank frankly]

5. if he had the troops

they would be there, or syria, already. They are rolling out their new fall line (Syria=Gitmo Espionoge, Iran=Last Warning, Sex Slaves=Sudan), but don't have the troops to do it.

They want to be the Nazis. It's all they know to do.

[janekat]

7. It too early to roll out a new product though - just ask Andy Card!!!

gotta wait til a month before the election....

[Robin Hood]

8. Let the draft begin.

enlist jenna and barbara Bush fitst.

[CoffeePlease1947]

9. Bush would just give them a job with the Texas Guard n/t

[Ivory_Tower]

10. Sometimes

I wonder if he'll spread our military out so thin around the world that the US mainland will fall to an invasion by Micronesia.

[cliss]

11. Let's look at this logically

Bush, being the itchy trigger-finger that he is, might be looking to "clean up" in Iran. After all, they are on his shopping list of evil empires.

So let's say he makes the decision to secretly, outrageously off the deep end bomb Iran. They'll make it a surprise attack, in the middle of the night. They will target nuclear reactors. They probably know where they are located. Pandemonium ensues. The Iranians quickly surrender.

U.S. troops move in within the next few days, to "liberate" the Iranians. Another trophy.

Realistically, what's to stop them? People here at DU say that the US can't spare any troops. We're all tied up in the mess we created in Iraq.

But what's to stop them from bombing? After all, we've got TONS of weapons. We're just short of people, that's all. But it can't take that many to push a button and aim. That's what we did in Iraq.

What do you think?

[CoffeePlease1947]

13. "But it can't take that many to push a button and aim."

That is about how Bush operates. Fire and then aim. Perhaps we should aim and then fire.

Mike

[Don_G]

14. Anyone Can Bomb A Country

It takes a large number of GI's to hold a country and we don't have that many to spare anymore.

[wuushew]

15. And then the reality....

Bombing pisses of Iran. Moderate pro-reformers are silenced as Iran and the rest of the Middle East experience a sharp rise in terrorism. Iran retaliates with an oil embargo. Saudi Arabia and the rest of OPEC do not follow, however the oil shock combined with the still meager exports of Iraq cause massive global economic shocks. Depending on the timing North Korea decides to publicly test one of their nuclear weapons. The situation in Afghanistan becomes worse as American troops struggle to prop up the Karzi government. Bush approval numbers sink to the low 30's and congress pushes through Patriot Act III and IV.

[Yupster]

24. We just don't have the infantry divisions left

Someone can help with the actual numbers, but I think the three we used in Iraq is pretty much it for full infantry divisions at fighting strength.

Iran is much bigger, much more populous, and much more mountainous. There's no way we'd invade it with ground forces.

Better to encourage the student Democracy movement. The mullahs are in their 80's. Things will get better there soon enough.

[Flying_Pig]

16. Bush is going to stick to PNAC's plan....

and Iran and Syria are in their sights. With PNAC's Likud/AIPAC/JDL/JINSA allies, Bush is no doubt hoping to score points with right-wing Jewish voters, as their man Sharon has been clamoring for invasions of Iran and Syria for years. It is wrong for an outisde nation (Israel) to have such influence on our foreign policy. In fact, it is against our Constitution, and should be considered treason, yet there are many members of Congress, both Republican and Democrat, who dance the PNC/Likud/AIPAC/JDL/JINSA tune. The Iraq war vote was evidence of that....

:grr:

[paulk]

17. don't put it past him

We've certainly got enough air and sea power to take out their nuke sites, air force, and probably a good part of their ability to defend themselves from further attack. Bush wouldn't need to send in any ground troops. This shit about baby nukes that's been going on the last few weeks is aimed at exactly situations like this.

If he does it the real question is - how will the american people react?

[CoffeePlease1947]

18. He will just say that they WMD's and the American People will eat it up

just like they did last time.

Mike

[paulk]

25. I hope not

'cause if the White House is thinking the same...

then they will do it.

[Lisa]

19. so they must show him an absence of something?

And even then, he could just retort that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!


My Iranian friends are frightened and upset. They're not surprised, after watching what this man has goten up to, but still ... one of them started crying when she heard the news item. After seeing what happened to Iraq and Afghanistan, no wonder. She is very concerned for her friends and relations back home.

This is horrible! One man is creating so much misery!

[TroubleMan]

20. Why do you think he wanted the UN to help by...

sending some of their troops in there?

He needs them to die in place of our troops, so we can continue on to Iran, Syria, or possibly North Korea.

Also, with UN troops there, if the Iraq situation "goes bad," he'll simply blame it on the UN troops. Look, I know it's already went bad, but they'll try to spin it like it's the UN's fault.

I hope the UN doesn't fall for this bullshit, because our troops will be in even more danger. Iran and Syria have much better equipped militaries, and Iran has a huge population compared to Iraq.

[Isere]

21. Dick Morris advised Bush to talk up war in Iran this very week!

http://www.thehill.com/news/092403/breakfast.aspx

This was commented upon in MWO as follows:

Horsie dear,

War may not be good for children and other living things, but our old "friend" Dick Morris thinks that whipping up war fever is a dandy way to keep the voters from deserting their Commander in Chief at the ballot box.  Here's is the diabolical, cynical, dare I say "Rovian" advice that Morris would offer to Bush:

"The advice that I’d be giving to Bush is that he ought to do an Act Three in the war on terror — it’s good policy and good politics — which is Iran. Not that we ought to invade Iran – it’s 65 million people, we don’t want to do that, it’s too dangerous for us to do that – but to talk about it a lot and begin to take strong economic measures against Iran. … The only reason we forgave him for not finding bin Laden is because he was busy with Iraq, and the only reason we’ll forgive him for the mess in Iraq is because he’s busy with Iran. None of these countries lends themselves to simple and easy solutions......"

So Act Three of this sinister tragedy, as directed by the oleaginous Morris,  will have frightened American citizens rushing to vote for their Lord Protector Commander Codpiece because only he can save them from the evil Iranians.  Curtain falls.  Bravo!  Applause!  Lights out.

Are we living in the theater of the absurd or what?

[Aidoneus]

22. him and what army?

.

[imax2268]

23. seriously...

I don't think that will happen though...if he says that we are going into Iran...I think the rest of the country will have had enough and impeach his ass...