All four bombers died in London attacks?!?

[Woody Box]

Didn't I hear in the news two days ago that the bombs were triggered remotely?


12 July 2005
All four bombers died in London attacks-Sky

LONDON (Reuters) - All four bombers were killed in the suspected al Qaeda attacks which hit central London last week, Sky news television said on Tuesday.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/latest/tm_objectid=15728396%26method=full%26siteid=94762%26headline=all%2dfour%2dbombers%2ddied%2din%2dlondon%2dattacks%2dsky-name_page.html

[DireStrike]

1. LOL - what the hell is this?

Remember, sky is fox's sister organization. Don't trust anything they say unless a reputable source is also saying it.

[Woody Box]

7. But it seems to be the main hypothesis now. Look at new thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1621567

What kind of game are they playing? On Friday, they declared it was remote bombs; and I haven't heard of ONE witness (a wounded victim, f.e.) mentioning something like a suicide bomber.

It's impossible for a suicide bomber to blow up a bus without people noticing (at least if there are survivors).

[yellowjacket]

22. WP article cites witnesses.

Officials said they were not certain about the intentions of the bus bomber. Witnesses have reported seeing a young man fidgeting nervously with something inside a bag just seconds before a bomb exploded in the area where he had been.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/12/AR2005071200527.html

[Tom Bombadil]

25. Until Tuesday's press conference

everything that had been reported was pure speculation (by police and journalists).

There was one witness who got off the bus before it exploded, who reported seeing an agitated man fiddling with his bag.

The survivors of the blast were probably those sitting furthest away from the bomb and who therefore would've been none the wiser.

[mr blur]

26. The latest from The Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1527699,00.html

AS I understand it it wasn't his intention to blow up the bus. Each of the 4 went in a separate direction - N., S., E. and W. and he is thought to have been travelling to a tube station when the bomb went off on the bus.

[Sadie5]

2. Something smells fishy here

I read somewhere that everyone was blown up so badly that they could hardly made ID's of those killed. How did they distinguish these four bombers from the other victims? Too, read this morning that the bombers lost their wallets and ID was made with this. Don't know what to think now.

[FreedomAngel82]

14. Exactly

How did they know they were the bombers??? If that's true.

[whatever4]

3. And what's with "all" four bombers, not just four bombers

That one just blows me away. All four...four?

[gandalf]

4. That is quite convenient

No trial necessary, cover-up is simple.

Remember the Madrid bombings? Some of the alleged attackers died when the police tried to arrest them, due to an explosion. Came in quite handy, this incident, I guess.

And, woody b, beware. No funny conspiracy posts here, or the thread will be deleted. (oder es holt dich der paraklet von kaborka...)

[Woody Box]

9. No conspiracy here

I'm just wondering

In case this thread is deleted, I'd take it as an honor - would be my first one ;-)

[Al-CIAda]

5. Dead 'men' tell no tales. I wonder if they 'found' their passports

in pristine condition like they found Atta's at the WTC.

[bj2110]

6. And they think they're all British citizens.. nt

[MindPilot]

8. I heard the bombs were on timers.

Probably won't be long before investigators find a miraculously unscathed passport.

My question: Supposedly the plans and execution of this attack slipped completely past one of the best law enforcement and investigative agencies on earth, but they already know not only who the bombers were but that they are dead.

[Quakerfriend]

10. Just heard on NPR that they found "personal belongings"

of all of the now dead bombers, near the sites.

[shance]

12. They can claim essentially anything they want, but wheres the proof?

How would anyone know whose belongings those are?

[shance]

11. If the bombs were remote controlled, they would not have to die, would

they?

And if no one would know if they died or not, what would be the significance.

Again, it's convenient. Too convenient it seems?

[longship]

15. But then they wouldn't get to go to their rewards

You know, all those virgins and all.

[shance]

16. ROFL!!*** I guess you can call me skeptical.

Im one of those who'd prefer a certification of guarantee on whats beyond those pearly gates.

:hippie:

[bigtree]

13. The fact that people would take their own lives up front to kill us

would make the attacks more than just a splinter attack. It would mesh with the depth of animosity felt throughout the Middle East toward the U.S. and our allies that has characterized the resistance in Iraq and Afghanistan. It would make the attacks more than opportunistic, and in line with a pattern of reprisals that mirror the initial attack on 9-11.

If true, it would be kinda hard to argue that this is anything other than another in a wave of reprisals and resentment to the U.S. policy in the Middle East. We are in the wrong there. We have killed tens of thousands of innocents in Iraq and Afghanistan. We haven't yet changed course.

Keep watching the investigation. Lots to be discovered, lots yet to be revealed.

[shance]

17. You are jumping on the bandwagon assumption that its Islamic terrorists.

Forgive me, not directed at you, however , do people not see the very racist tones being promoted by our corporate media machine?

It's sickening and very sad to me the racism that is being promoted and ignited when we have no proof of who enacted this.

Keep in mind there is potential motivation from those other than *Islamic terrorists* to enact such a crime.

[muriel_volestrangler]

19. But we do know now the addresses the police raided

and some neighbours were interviewed on TV, and they said things along the lines of "they were very nice, perfectly average". I would think the neighbours would have pointed out they weren't Muslim, if that had been the case.

[JackRiddler]

18. selfdelete

[gandalf]

20. This interesting change of the story line

is discussed by Xymphora today.

[muriel_volestrangler]

23. Not a very impressive analysis

Some minor details are wrong (no-one ever thought mobile phones were used, becasue they don't work in the London Underground, about 100 feet below the ground). I have extremely high suspicions of someone who writes "the ongoing Zionist program to associate terrorism with calls for the Islamification of British society". Zionism in the British government? That's way off the mark.

The questions about the use of timers are valid. The rest is speculation, verging on the ridiculous in some cases (paying the men to sit in certain seats on the Tube trains - yeah, would you really travel down to London to do that, and not suspect something was up?)

[ikri]

21. The initial reports

Were probably based on speculation from police that was taken as fact by reporters.

They've been talking about how it could have been done for the last few days. Now that they have CCTV footage that identifies the 4 main suspects they're working on the assumption that all four died in the attacks. Since none of them have been seen since the attacks, it is a valid assumption that they died in the attacks.

This isn't a cover up to make the evidence fit the crimes, this is an ongoing investigation that is closing down lines of inquiry as they gain more evidence of what happened.

[leesa]

24. Very convenient, huh? Dead men tell no tales, right OBL?

[raccoon]

27. Lee Harvey Oswald comes to mind. nt