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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:52 PM
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"I LEARN THINGS" says Gray Davis
That's what Gray Davis is saying at a town meeting in Burbank.
I like Gray Davis a lot. California is a hard place to run to begin with and the Repukkkes have hit it harder in political sense than US Grant hit Vicksburg.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:53 PM
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1. What are the intricates of the situation?
Edited on Thu Sep-25-03 10:54 PM by FDRrocks
Is there much for him to learn? Or apologize for? I mean Enron, energy crisis, and national sinking economy. What was his hand in the whole deal.

This fiasco shouldn't have happened. The only good to come out of it was to see that crook Issa show what a bawling idiot he really is.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:00 PM
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2. Here's a link to an interview with Sharon Davis that is
interesting.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/969452.asp?0cv=KB20

"Sept. 20 — Since the recall campaign against Gov. Gray Davis began, California’s First Lady Sharon Davis has become her husband’s chief adviser and cheerleader. She even blogs on his behalf, writing a column about the couple’s experiences on governor’s campaign Web site (www.no-recall.com) Between campaign stops, Sharon Davis spoke with Newsweek’s Karen Breslau:"
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:01 PM
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3. QUit learning and start dancing.
Faster!
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:01 PM
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4. I too feel Davis is getting the short end of the stick...
Edited on Thu Sep-25-03 11:22 PM by Oracle
As I wrote on DU today...

"There has to be some principles here regarding the republican money machine, it must be rejected, and only a NO vote can help do that and to send a message."

Everyone knows Arianna has not a chance a fucking million in one chance winning...yet so many completely lost unknowledgable, uncaring people insist on voting Yes on the recall...

Voting Yes takes it out of the hands of all the people who voted for a Democrat, which Davis won fair and square. It's saying fuck all you people who voted...we republicans didn't like it and weh ave the money and the media to make it happen for republican Arnold...just look at the circus the media is putting on right now over Arnold...gushing like the whores they are.

The republicans started this recall immediately after the 2002 elections when the PEOPLE voted for a democrat, Davis and he won fair and square...

Now you want to trash Davis as no friend of the Unions? This is a bullshit recall through and through...if it works in CA let's keep doing it.. and just a way the republicans can break the complete democratic office holders have in the state...a payback for Gore winning the state by 11 points and Gore never spent a dime in California...sure Bush will lose in California in 2004...BUT THAT"S NOT THE FUCKING POINT!!!

To allow this recall to fail...Arnold can become gov. by as little as 20 % of the vote on election day and with only about 5% of eligiable CA voters...and then he's in for eight years! California histroy proves that...Warren, Brown, Reagan, Brown, Duke, Wilson and Davis... ALL were re-elected for an eight year term. Davis won the 2002 election by 5 1/2 points...this is just republicans coming in the back door again...

And because people like don't like Davis. There was no good reason for the recall, Davis won. Davis didn't have high crimes and misdemeanors to justify a recall, this is republican funded recall, simply because the republicans corporates have the money to do so and they will always the money.

We can't allow this.

I also see what happens when the pigs get their feet in the door...saying Arnold is no different that Davis? Let say it allows a republican Gov., Arnold to be in office in 2004...exactly what Rove wants and needs, for the 2004 elections...their foot in the door in California...Fuck I'm tired of this bullshit, of Californians voting for fucks for eight fucking years each, Reagan, Duke, and Wilson..Davis had weak, stupid fuck-ups he ran against twice...with all the republican money and Arnold asking to give him a chance to clean up Davis's messes and no strong democratic canididate (what Cruz???) Arnold will "cruz" to another four years...and preform the republican agenda and ideolgy and we all know what that is (everything for business and the corporations, fuck the people.)

Arnold is a REPUBLICAN. His policies, agenda and ideology will reflect that once he is in office. Bush campaigned as a moderate, said all kind things how he was going to strengthen social programs, that he was pro environment etc, etc…

"I could never vote Yes. It's complete and blatant republican manipulation of our consitution. Even if God himself (or she) were running against republican Arnold.

I'd still vote NO on the recall."


Davis is a DEMOCRAT. Since taking office, Governor Davis has invested more state funding in housing programs than any other Governor in state history. These largest-ever investments in housing seek not only to help create housing, but also to stimulate the state's economy and create jobs.

Governor Davis has supported over $500 million in direct funding of housing programs, more than any other Governor in California history.

Concerned that critical medical decisions were being made by cost-cutting bookkeepers instead of care-giving doctors, Governor Davis signed into law several HMO reforms that improve health care delivery while keeping coverage affordable for families and their employers. He put the medical decision-making process back where it belongs - in the hands of patients and their doctors.

The ground-breaking HMO reforms include:

The right to an external, independent review of health care coverage decisions and experimental treatments.

The right to sue an HMO in cases of substantial harm.

The right to cancer and diabetes screenings.

The right to care for serious mental health disorders and major childhood emotional disturbances.

The right to a second medical opinion.

The right to privacy of medical records.

The right to contraceptive coverage.

The right to Hospice Care for the terminally ill.

Coverage of "routine patient costs" for all four phases of a clinical trial, for all cancers.

Access to appropriate specialists on an ongoing basis for HIV/AIDS patients.

Funding to publish an annual HMO report card with information about the quality of care that health plans provide.

Financial solvency requirements for organized health care pro

Signed the California Student Safety and Violence Prevention Act which prohibits harassment and discrimination of students in California's schools on the basis of sexual orientation.

Expanded the Fair Employment and Housing Act that prohibits discrimination in employment and housing on the basis of sexual orientation.

Prohibited exclusion from juries on the sole basis of sexual orientation.

Strengthened on-the-job rights of Californians with disabilities.

Banned housing discrimination based on income or financial status.

Strengthened workers' rights by prohibiting discrimination against employees and job applicants based on lawful
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caffeine76 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:04 PM
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5. what has he learned?
first of all he negotiated long term energy contracts when prices were at an all time high. buy high - sell low? second of all, his energy policy is flawed to begin with - we'll let the market go at the wholesale level, but cap prices at the retail level. Boy i bet the environmentalist loved that one. Why conserve a scarce resource when you don't feel the scarcity hit you - i.e. higher prices? Now he wants to appoint the heads of casinos in charge of the regulatory body that oversees them? Prison guards, just recieved a 38% increase in pay. They now make double what the teachers do. How did the prison guard union reward Mr. Davis? why with a 1.5 million dollar campaign contribution. Oh and lets not start with the $600+ annual car tax registration. When Mr. Davis got into office, state revenues climbed 25% - what did he do? Why spending rose 38% that same year.
Naw its not his fault
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:13 PM
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6. He was clobbering bicep-boy about the debate a while ago on NPR
It was wonderful: he was pointing out how Arnold was saying that our taxes were the highest ("that's just wrong, they're 19th or 20th, something like that") and going on with other statistics that were just plain wrong.

I hope Garry South pulls out the stops and clobbers them with Enron ads right now, when they won't have a chance to react. Something's a-brewin'. We haven't heard from Art Torres and Willy Brown in a while; they're old-timey machine politicians of the toughest kind.

Davis can be very likeable, and suddenly he's getting more relaxed than I've ever seen him. He's a good-looking guy, and can come across as quite guileless and honorable (don't wax too poetic, though: he's an apparatchik to the bone) when he's given a little breathing room. Methinks the next 12 days are going to be wild.

I just want a Gettysburg for these primitives: I want a huge convulsion and pissy fight where they force McClintock (don't his eyes look like that Manson photo on the key art for "Helter Skelter"?) out, and get their asses handed to them anyway. I saw that debate, and Arnold came across like a thug and a prick: constantly interrupting and gassing off like the peacock he is. Bustamante came across rather commanding, dignified and knowledgeable. You wouldn't know that for the media spin it's gotten: Arnold was personable, and Cruz was asleep.

We absolutely HAVE to take back some of the media.
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:18 PM
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7. I love it...but pointing out Repug Arnolds and the republican lies
Edited on Thu Sep-25-03 11:37 PM by Oracle
and smears is never enough...with these republican pigs...it has to be blown up (out) for the record on the national republican owned media. Very dificult to do...especially with some Democrats offering no support and on top of it to voting Yes on the recall.

We have to get our family, friends and everyone in great numbers on election day pull teeth if you have to...but get them out to vote...drive them to the polls if necessary, I know I will, to vote NO on the recall.

We have to press it now until election time, or our 2002 votes means nothing, sadly...
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Orangeone Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:25 PM
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8. People forget

Californians are crazy, they forgot about Pete Wilson, the governor before Davis. He was terrible for the working class, and immigrants. He was partly resposible for the energy crisis and now he's blaming Davis. It's true that Davis is flawed but he's a dream compared to Pete Wilson.
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:27 PM
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9. Your right. We do forget.
Edited on Thu Sep-25-03 11:28 PM by Oracle
Cheers!
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