Stop thinking that now! You make us look bad!

[Neshanic]

This rash of people taking others to task for just believing what they want. How does the fact that an architect on another thread have the opinion that there is more to the WTC building collapse affect your life?

I stated that I am not an expert on anything like that, but I have a healthy suspicion of what our government does, and why they do it. Al Franken had a book author on today that quoted a person that made the statement to the effect...."do not trust the government ever". So Al Franken is going to get worked over the coals by the ones here that proffer the stupidity was their only crime scenario?

Fine, if that's what you believe. But if I follow the belief that they had all the information, and CHOSE not to do anything....now me and all others are nuts?

If you need the feel to do housecleaning by calling out people like me, and there are many, to get to a place where you feel more comfortable, take up a hobby, but you are not going to change our minds by physics lessons, stupidity excuses, or constant goading for prove it requests.

[zapp]

1. 9/11 was terrible. Exploiting it was worse, IMO

Despite how it happened, the after-effects have had longer-lasting and more devastating effects.

[wli]

2. trusting the government

The consequences of blindly trusting the government were made clear about 60 years ago, so if you have any conscience at all, you should be very, very suspicious of the government. The government is not a person, and does not have constitutional rights. The government bears the burden of proof to exonerate itself. Secrecy is tantamount to guilt, if not of the accusation at hand, then of violating the public's trust.

[expatriot]

5. Who/what is the "government" then?

The "government" is ever group of revolving people: bureaucrats, politicians, public policy doctrates, military officers... it's a group of people that are mortal and just struggling with the day to day... it is not the fucking Illuminati, it is not purely evil or purely good... it is not to be trusted blindedly just as it is not to be distrusted blindedly....

I think distrusting the government all the time is as bad as trusting the government all the time. I think you are see everthing in black and white, you need to see some gray...

[JackRiddler]

7. Reality is inherently contradictory...

The "government" is exactly as you describe... and it is also "the fucking Illuminati," assuming that term simply means the oligarchies in charge.

There is no contradiction here.

[Oversea Visitor]

3. Already

did.....
Osama intents to attack US..... come on show us the facts hey
It is common knowleadge for people around the world that the Taliban warn the us. In fact they contact the Us embassy in Pakistan weeks before 911.

[Swamp Rat]

6. Ya! Terima kasih!!!

:hi: Apa kabar!

[expatriot]

4. If you have the right to call it how you see it, thenI have the right to

tell you what I think of how you see it. I also have the right to tell you that I think people who believe rense.com type crap DO make us ("us" being the Opposition) look bad.

I don't doubt that George W. Bush and his inner circle would be CAPABLE psychologically, etc. of setting something like this up... what is highly, highly unplausible that they would find the thousands of people who would have had to have been complicit in the action and have no one coming forward with leaked info or even a guilt-ridden confession,etc.

I think such theories are just plain kooky and embarrassing to the "opposition." But I am not going to even try and deny you the right to express it, I just think it is unfortunate that choose to believe such things.

[Guaranteed]

8. I think people are just getting sick of it.

I'm heavily against censorship.

But that doesn't change that there's a lot of garbage around and they're getting tired of it.

As far as trusting the government, most people here are QUITE wary of the Bush Administration. We know.