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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:47 AM
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Here's an interesting Google search: "sent Joe Wilson"
...the Bush administration, had sent Joe Wilson,
...The CIA, on his wife's suggestion, sent Joe Wilson
...Director Tenet's statement, it says that counter-proliferation experts, on their own initiative, sent Joe Wilson.
...BLITZER: But 11 months earlier, you, the Bush administration, had sent Joe Wilson,
...US Inteligence had the same Italian summary, and had sent Joe Wilson
...And Joe Wilson—I don’t know who sent Joe Wilson.
...the CIA – sent Joe Wilson
...George Tenet officially reveals CIA sent Joe Wilson
...Condi denies Cheney ever sent Joe Wilson
...MATTHEWS: What about if the vice president’s office knew, having sent Joe Wilson
...But 11 months earlier, you, the Bush administration, had sent Joe Wilson,
...If he didn't know she was a CIA operative, how could he know that she was the one who sent Joe Wilson to Nigeria?
...the VP sent Joe Wilson
...CIA’s Non-Proliferation Center sent Joe Wilson
...and to be sure, Cheney's office sent Joe Wilson
...Novak wrote he asked CIA why they sent Joe Wilson
...bush sent joe wilson
...CIA and the State Department said the Vice President’s office wanted information about Iraq, Niger and uranium a year before so they sent Joe Wilson
...When Bush sent Joe Wilson to North Korea,
...It was Clarke that sent Joe Wilson to Africa

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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:49 AM
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1. very interesting, and fun, sounds like a song! n/t
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:56 AM
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2. Okay. That's it. Wanna know who sent him?
I sent him!! I did it. That's right. ME. ccbombs.

So now that that's settled, can we please frog-march Rove now? Please?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:01 AM
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4. Who sent Joe Wilson....???
Twas ccbombs sent Joe Wilson!:spank:
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:33 AM
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10. I did it! And I'm glad! n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 01:58 AM
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3. blast from the past
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:07 AM
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6. And the State Dept. says...

"July 6, 2003: The New York Times published an article in which former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson described his mission to Niger, in which he had been unable to find evidence that Iraq had attempted to purchase uranium there. The next day, the White House conceded that President Bush had relied on "incomplete and possibly inaccurate information" when he mentioned in his State of the Union address that, according to the British Government, Iraq had tried to obtain uranium in Africa."

<http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/pubs/fs/33355.htm>

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:13 AM
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7. Wasn't it Ken Starr who determined a President could be held
responsible for things they said to the Press? and other comments made...that got in the Press??

I seem to recall Ken Starr making such a statement during his witch-hunt.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:17 AM
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8. Oh, I'm sure he did, scum that he is
Let's hope Fitzgerald can play as dirty. As a matter of fact, I read a little tidbit somewhere that Novak is getting a bigger look right now. We'll see...
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:03 AM
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5. I read it this way in terms of blobs
(Bush Admin (Cheney's WHIG)) -> (CIA (Anti-Proliferation Group (of which Plame was a member)))

So in a way he was sent at Cheney's behest, although his wife, in her professional capacity may have recommended him, as he seems to have been the most qualified person for the task based on his experiences.

The "Clark" is that Victoria Clark?

And was Wilson also sent to North Korea?
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:23 AM
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9. Check this out...very, very interesting
I want to start a thread on it.

<http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/13/2120/69533>

THE BIG LIE ABOUT VALERIE PLAME

snip...

A few of my classmates, and Valerie was one of these, became a non-official cover officer. That meant she agreed to operate overseas without the protection of a diplomatic passport. If caught in that status she would have been executed. The lies by people like Victoria Toensing, Representative Peter King, and P. J. O'Rourke insist that Valerie was nothing, just a desk jockey. Yet, until Robert Novak betrayed her she was still undercover and the company that was her front was still a secret to the world. When Novak outed Valerie he also compromised her company and every individual overseas who had been in contact with that company and with her.


MORE.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:37 AM
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11. Joe Wilson himself says he was sent by the CIA.
He may have been suggested by his wife, as the wingers claim and he somewhat cagily denies (usually by citing news reports, as though the subject is someone else). The CIA's motive (not Tenet's, but the analysts in charge of nonproliferation who sent Wilson) may have been to add substance to the skepticism against the Niger documents claiming Iraq was trying to buy 550 metric tons of yellowcake.

Wilson, oddly enough, admits (in his NY Times editorial of July 6, 2003) that he never saw those documents. He also says in that editorial that his role in refuting the Niger story was "small."

Rereading the Wilson documents is rather rewarding. It explains why Bob Somerby of the Daily Howler is so hard on Wilson. He can be maddeningly vague--lots of passive-voice constructions in which the actor in the sentence is not clear. It's difficult to get a handle on why Wilson was sent at all. The documents had already been debunked by textual analysis, and the embassy and a military analyst on the ground were already looking into whether or not anyone in the Nigerian government had contacts with Iraqis. The ambassador to Niger asked Wilson not to talk to anyone in the current government, so Wilson only talked to former ministers. He never wrote a report, he merely gave an oral briefing to the ambassador and his contacts back at CIA. Oddly enough, his analysis was graded a middling "good" because he added one little piece: Evidently an Iraqi delegation did show up in Niger, but the Nigerians said they didn't talk about yellowcake because it was understood to be off limits. (So what did they talk about? The report doesn't say.)

In any case, Wilson's piece corroborated the rest of the analysis suggesting that Iraq got nothing from Niger in 1999, certainly, and nothing in Niger supported the Bushists' "fear" (or hope) that Iraq was immanently rebuilding its nuclear weapons program in 2002-2003. Which leads me to conclude that the point of Wilson's editorial (that the Bushists were knowingly exaggerating the threat to justify the rush to war) was essentially sound.

The question of who sent Wilson, in short, is irrelevant to the main question: did the Bushists "fix the facts and intelligence around the policy" so they could throw an illegal war? And did they try to smear Wilson and his wife to throw the media off the scent leading to the real meat of the issue?

Duh!
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 02:03 PM
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12. daytime kick
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