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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 04:51 PM
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"talks" of suitcase nukes in the US ... is it BS or is there more to it ??
I have no idea, I don't trust TPTB nor do I trust the media...who knows.


I did read the "text below" on another thread -- a couple of things stand out:

* our detection capability seems quite good (needs to be validated)

* the One World Order reference with Bush I is interesting


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As you have probably heard from the major news networks, there is some concern about the so-called portable nuclear devices developed by the old USSR. Their former head of the KGB has confirmed the existence of 150 portable devices: 100 of which are presently unaccounted for.

First of all, portable refers to a low yield device with casing that would require an 18 wheeler to transport! "Suitcase device" is a misnomer. Second, none of these devices are missing; We know exactly where these devices are located at any given point in time.

This is how we know: During the 1980´s I worked as a Senior Systems Engineer for several DOD companies in San Diego (Advanced Digital Systems and SAIC). While in this position I was tasked with developing a "Fleet Satellite Catastrophic Restoral Plan" for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. My group was to develop a method for satellite intelligence restoral in the event of a space born nuclear strike by the Soviet Union. In the course of this study, we had to review all satellite capabilities and characteristics: both current and projected through the early ninety´s.

A series of satellites planned to begin deployment in 1989 (temporarily delayed by the Shuttle explosion) are now aloft (2nd phase of the MILSTAR Program) They carry special sensor devices (Developed by SAIC) that can detect high-velocity spin-off particles from enriched uranium (necessary for nuclear devices). Due to the small size and velocity of these particles, no amount of shielding can block them: not lead, not earth (sub-terrainian). Radiation hazards from these particles are minimal due to limited quantity. Our satellites are fool-proof in detecting and pin-pointing the locations of enriched uranium throughout the world.

The nuclear verification process employed in monitoring Iraq and other nations via NATO and the United Nations uses these satellite joint detection systems (the NSA controls and tracks the data). Many articles concerning these satellites have already been written in specialty magazines (Defense Science and Electronics-for one). Any attempt to bring a nuclear device into our country would be instantly detected (not to mention the track of its mobile transport).

Once again, the major US media resorts to half-truths for the benefit of ratings: "Stay tuned for more on our impending annihilation!" their unspoken headlines read,

If an internal nuclear attack ever occurs in this country without a major failure of our satellite assets...perhaps we should rethink just who the enemy really is...

While at SAIC, I worked special projects for Dick Egger (heir-apparent to Bob Beyster). As SAIC is now the top think tank for DOD, Admiral Poindexter (I worked for him as an NSO officer) has replaced Egger. The "Black Ops" for SAIC are under Poindexter´s control and include PSYOPS developed in the San Diego area. Former pres. Bush Senior is STILL IN CHARGE of the old CIA ops group Poindexter represents. Just as in IRAN/CONTRA, the funding is private! I believe our capabilities to detect nukes is "With Intent" being hushed by the special interest group from the Bush Presidency (there really is a World Order crowd!) - now operating through Bush Jr.

I am known to these people (I worked within their organization for almost 10 years...til´ I woke up). You can verify with Oliver North. He will not admit, but say to him: "The meeting at Pacer Systems in 1982 was taped and remains with the other documents bearing Bush Senior´s signature - you only retrieved what I set aside for retrieval"...you can gauge his reaction for yourself...

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?page=4&topic=3&message=126568&mpage=1&showdate=7/13/05
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There was this guy on Coast to Coast last night sharing US city and nuke concerns --- who knows if he is a "palnt" to spread fear or
info for a planned event.

Again, I cannot validate any of the above ... can anyone share any info in this area
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Beaver Tail Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:02 PM
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1. I don't think you can get radioactive material across the border
We had this discussion at work and something came up. A woman I work with, her father had radio dye treatment in the US. When he came across the border to Canada the alarms went off. It was because of the radio dye in his body.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:16 PM
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7. It can come in a shipping container.
Or a lead lined box on any sort.
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Hope springs eternal Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:06 PM
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2. Is NYC safe?
I've always been fearful of NYC getting hit by a nuclear device of some sort. Are you saying that's not something I should be worring about?
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:07 PM
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3. nope -- I have no idea .... this is not a fear thread
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:13 PM
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5. oh you should be afraid. listen to your darkest fears,
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 05:13 PM by SlavesandBulldozers
and - if you can, you should let fear wash over your soul like a stream of molten lava.


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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:08 PM
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4. Yeah, it's BS.
Suitcase nukes are a myth, just like the guy says.

Maybe if somebody invents a portable hole then they'll be something to worry about.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:14 PM
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6. be afraid, be very afraid. terra terra terra
John Dean noted last night on Lou Dobbs that the wh strategy appeared to be stonewall until an overshadowing story takes the place of their various problems. I have no doubt that chimpy and friends are desparately trying to find someone to bring in the "yellow buns"
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:20 PM
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8. Old micro nukes would never work. This idea is total bunk.
Nukes need regular reconditioning.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:22 PM
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9. all i want to know is who we need to invade next to make the world safer.
now that we don't have to worry about the horrific Saddam-Drones-of-Death anymore that everyday threatened the eastern sea-board.

/freepmode disengage/
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:32 PM
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10. well, we could check with the CIA and see how the investigation
by Valerie Plame is goin......erm.......uhhh.....i guess not NOW!


thanks Rove.
dp
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:40 PM
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11. Seems this fellow is debunking
some of the mythology which is good.

Is there any way to confirm the info about the satellites? It sounds a little far out there but who knows. If that checks out then it would help prove or disprove this fellow's credibility.

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