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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 06:40 PM
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You have to admit Repukes defend Rove better than Dems did Sen Durbin!
The Repukes just never give ground. Don't you wish the Democrats did the same?
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 06:42 PM
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1. Yes.
I do.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 06:43 PM
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2. Dems usually need a shot of
courage.:beer:
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 06:46 PM
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3. Democrats seem to think if they just stand back and be nice.....
that goodness will prevail.

God dammit Democrats, START FIGHTING!!
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 06:48 PM
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4. Why don't the Dems have "talking points"?
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 07:01 PM
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7. The Democrats don't seem to get....
that they need a whole "fight back and WIN" agenda: talking points,
coordinated responses to all Republican attacks, etc. Basically, they
need a whole group doing nothing but these things and more, and
doing it aggressively.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 06:49 PM
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5. That Comment Includes MANY Vocal DU'ers Who Did Next To Nothing
to support Durbin after he made his statement and then shit all over him when he issued a formal statement of regret.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 06:50 PM
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6. DUs don't get on Hardball and CNN.
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 07:04 PM
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8. No, I don't wish the Dems would use the same tactis as repubs
Remember, the repubs are LYING about someone who they know is GUILTY. If they had any honor, they'd live up to their promise, and "fire the leaker." But they don't, and they won't.

I'd prefer the Dems fight their battles differently. Fight like hell, but don't embarrass us by LYING.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:13 PM
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10.  They don't have to lie. But they do have to stand up!
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 08:16 PM by wurzel
Sen. Durbin told the truth. The other Dems should have had the guts to do the same.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 07:41 PM
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9. It's the nature of how we think
It may seem like the Republicans have the upper hand right now, but they in their hubris will sink themselves.

The Republicans actually are pretty crummy in a war, ultimately those qualities that make Democrats what they are, make for a much more powerful fighter, when it counts. How many wars have the Democrats had to fight and win. Compare that to the Republicans. It is they that are the losers. It is the ability to submerge our own self-interest to the interests of the whole that wins wars.

We perceive the Republicans as a united force, perhaps a 'team' thats unstoppable. Well, they are far from united (except on the surface), they are not a team and they will prove to be stoppable.

It takes a quality called altruism to form oneself into a team, this is what we have and they don't. As soon as it gets hot, they will jump ship and abandon each other, you'll see.

What they do have is organization. Don't underestimate that quality. But I wouldn't trade altruism for organization any day. We will win. You'll see.
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Justpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:17 PM
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11. Yes, and that shit has to stop.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:20 PM
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12. What was to defend?
He was a pissy, whiney, sniveling little snark of a fuck up when he rolled over on his tummy and begged the mean old republicans to forgive him for telling the truth.

The thing about Democrats....that I like.....is that we aren't Brown shirt storm troopers defendint the Darwin Award cretins in our midst...at least I'm not
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:46 PM
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13. Reagan got one thing right: never speak ill of a fellow Republican.
So you don't agree with Durbin 10000%? Tough shit. We should have defended him to the death. Reagan was right, but the Dems will never get the message. If we want to win, we have got to hang together, or we will all surely hang separately.

I will say this, however: idiots like Mehlman have looked pathetic with their "he didn't reveal a NAME" and "he was trying to prevent the reporter from running an inaccurate story" defenses! So pathetic that surely even the barely-aware public can see it.

Bake
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:56 PM
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14. reality, dems wouldnt be clobbered if they went on hardball and
spoke the truth about what durbin said, merely by giving the whole quote instead of what media and repugs fed........let alone if the dems were telling a bunch of lies to defend durbin. they would be crucified. the media wouldnt sit back and just allow the dems to go on and on and on with lies.

reality here
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