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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:12 PM
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Jordanian kills child for 'honour'
A teenage Jordanian girl who ran away from home has been battered to death by her father, who claimed she violated his family's honour, reports say.
The father reportedly pledged not to harm his daughter when he collected her from the authorities, who had found her in the town of Zarqa, north of Amman.

Medical tests on the girl before she was returned to her father indicated she was still a virgin, officials say.

Jordanian MPs have opposed stricter penalties for "honour killings."

Under existing laws, people found guilty of murdering female relatives on the alleged grounds of guarding familial honour can be released from jail after only six months.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4676445.stm

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:14 PM
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1. What's the penalty for murdering a virgin?
Standing in the corner?
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:16 PM
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4. A Severe Slap on the Wrists
or a stern word.
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friesianrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:15 PM
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2. I think this is pretty common in the middle east...
I remember in one of my English classes a semester or two ago, we were talking about these "honor" killings of children or close family members for doing things to "embarass" the family such as running away, getting pregnant, having an affair, or seeking divorce, etc.

Very sad, nonetheless.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:22 PM
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5. The Dirty Little Secret....
no one talks about.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:24 PM
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6. I lost touch with an ME friend who liked to write erotica.. have
worried about her ever since because I knew she still lived at home.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:16 PM
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3. "Traditional Family Values" at work.
Sounds like the kind of guy that our homegrown Taliban would admire.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:27 PM
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8. The American Taliban is envious as hell...
... but give 'em time, they're working on it. Just as Rome wasn't built in a day, it takes years to dismantle a republic.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:30 PM
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9. Thats nothing.......Murdered in name of family honour
The murders of Faten Habash and the Shakirat sisters last month were the latest in a series of brutal "honour killings" that have shaken the Palestinian community over recent weeks. The deaths have prompted demands for a change to laws inherited from the days of Jordanian rule that deem all women to be "minors" under the authority of male relatives and that provide a maximum of six months in prison for killings in defence of "family honour."

But those calls have met with resistance in parliament where religious Palestinian MPs argue that reform will lead to a collapse in the moral fabric of society. According to the Palestinian women's affairs ministry, 20 girls and women were murdered in honour killings last year and about 50 committed suicide - often under coercion - for "shaming" the family through sex outside marriage, refusing an arranged marriage or seeking a divorce. Another 15 women survived attempts to kill them.

The ministry says that dozens of other killings are covered up each year. "We had one woman of 26 who was certified as dying of old age," said Maha Abu Dayyeh Shamas, director of the Women's Centre for Legal Aid and Counselling. "Putting 'falling into well' on the death certificate is very common. We find that the women were strangled and then dumped in the well."

Faten Habash's murder was unusual because she came from the Christian minority in the Palestinian territories. Her desire to marry a young Muslim, Samer Hamis, so infuriated her family that the couple decided to elope to Jordan.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1512394,00.html

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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:24 PM
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7. Are there honor killings in Iraq?
I know how common it is in countries like Pakistan and a few others, but what about Iraq? Have they written anything in regards to honor killings into their laws?
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:07 PM
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10. What about the disgrace of a man killing or injuring a woman?
There are a lot of guys like myself who would like to invite the so-called father to America and demonstrate how the honor of a family should be protected from a psycho coward when he beats a woman.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 05:38 AM
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11. HUH??
I dont know what youre getting at.
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