are we really torturing kids now?

[ole_evil_eye]

This is my first night tuning into Mike Malloy. heare amazing things about em and thought I'd check in

Are we really torturing little kids now? i mean....this can't be true. it just can't be

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. Can't it? We live under a very sick administration.

[adarling]

2. tell me what he is saying

that can't be true...its just too much not like any of this is normal but kids...come on

[ole_evil_eye]

5. he's talking about

children detained at Gitmo. Said children between the ages of 8-14 were sleep deprived, bit by dogs, not allowed to see their lawyer or any loved one for up to 2 years, etc.

Pretty sick stuff. I gotta say, I picked a hell of a night to start listenin to Malloy

But still...I don't know if I can bring myself to look on America as the bad guy

[seabeyond]

3. clear back when the torture pictures came out, there were many

that werent shown to hte public. the senate sat thru watching them. it has been confirmed from many sources, yes there were children tortured raped and i believe some killed. dont quote me on the killing. that people in the senate where sickened by this crap. this is when all decided we didnt need to see

further there has been accounts of children being used to get at parents. all kinds of cruel things being done

yes they are being tortured.

there were even some in gitmo, what 15 or something

[texanwitch]

4. check this website

www.truthout.org/docs_04/072004A.shtml

It is sad but true.

[ole_evil_eye]

7. jesus....

according to barrelsofblood.com, Bush has 3,882 barrels of blood on his hands

I think he has a bit more than that after reading this now

[texanwitch]

8. Here is another website, it is very hard to read.

www.antiwar.com/orig/croke.php?articleid=3286 - 39k :mad:

[BattyDem]

6. From what I understand ...

the new batch of Abu Ghraib photos show some horrible things. :-(

I did a Google and found some links from last year when Sy Hersh first spoke about it.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/7/14/193750/666

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/007464.html

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/007286.html

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/22/5309
(This one was written by Will Pitt)

On edit: Photos are due to be released next week.

[K-W]

10. I still cant believe my eyes when I read that stuff. EOM

[proud patriot]

9. Private Contracters (Mercinaries) paid by our tax $$$ are

sadly we are . Our soldiers aren't IMHO but these
hired thugs are .

[Lilith Velkor]

11. We have been all along

ABC-TV (Australia) first broke the story back in '02.

That was the only news report in this whole sordid B*sh saga that literally made me vomit.

[whitebear]

12. Texan-read the report.OMG!

Jeeeeeez

[CWebster]

13. How many times does the story have to be told?

Generation, after generation, it seems, has to learn the lesson the hard way no matter how many historical accounts, novels, films, treaties, conventions and wars to end all wars resolve to at long last, civilize war--as if it were possible. It is in the very nature of war to terrorize and brutalize populations, yet people wrap it up in the flag and parade it with pride and defend and support the troops as heros instead of pawns.

That is why I spit on you, John Kerry, and I carry this endless and bitter lament towards your grandstanding on the Iraqi war crime even AFTER you, yourself have witnessed...the torturing of little kids.