"The Men Who Stare at Goats"

[QuettaKid]

Ya know the old saying about "truth being stranger than fiction...."? further proof:

""If he had not, for example, discovered that there was a Major General Albert Stubblebine III directing operations from Arlington, Virginia, who firmly believes he can walk through walls. Or if the existence of a secret unit in which psyops personnel stared at goats for hours on end with the aim of killing them was actually a figment of a warped author's imagination.""

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,6903,1355965,00.html

[quiet.american]

1. All I can say is... WTF? n/t

[YDogg]

2. Save the Pet Goats!

;-)

[kenny blankenship]

6. It's going to take a LOT of faith healing

to save them goats oncet they've been stared at!

[donsu]

3. kick

nt

[RaleighNCDUer]

4. I've got to find this book.

Any ideas if which, of B&N and Borders, is the bluer company?

[mrfrapp]

5. Crazy Rulers of the World

There was a connected TV show on this subject called "The Crazy Rulers of the World". Worth watching if you can track it down.

http://www.channel4.com/life/microsites/C/crazy_rulers/

Jon Ronson wrote an earlier book called "Them" which was connected with a TV show called "The Secret Rulers of the World". Both book and TV programme discuss and disect the Bilderburg Group, Bohemian Grove, David Icke theories and the other usual suspects. Ronson manages to discuss these subjects without getting carried away with them so its a good introduction to the new-world-order set of "conspiracy theories" for those people who are nervous about learning from a biased source.

[Minstrel Boy]

7. "Uri Geller told me that he’d been 're-activated'."

Scare Crazy
The Scotsman, Nov 13, 2004

JON RONSON AND I ARE WALKING DOWN a grimy Soho street, deep in conversation about mind-control. It’s a subject that lends itself to nuttiness, but the author of Them: Adventures with Extremists, who gatecrashed the sacred owl-burning ceremony at the exclusive American club, Bohemian Grove, challenged the Bildenberg Group and befriended the Ku Klux Klan, has an uncanny ability to discern the method within other people’s madness. In his latest book, The Men Who Stare at Goats, which accompanies the Channel 4 series (Sunday, 8pm), his target is the American military.

Ronson began his journey into the US army’s heart of cerebral darkness in London, where he got a tip from Uri Geller - the psychic famed for bending spoons on TV in the 1970s. "Under Clinton, the nuttiness was at the fringes but the dynamic changed when the Bushes got into power and it felt like the nuttiness was now at the core of things," Ronson tells me at his Soho club. "So I started asking around and then I heard about remote viewers and psychic spies and, right here on the roof terrace in this building, Uri Geller told me that he’d been ‘re-activated’."

I ask why the US military might have brought Geller back in from the cold. The simple answer is that Geller once belonged to an unofficial unit of psychic spies, formed in the 1970s to read the future and conduct experiments into the supernatural for the US military. Geller’s tip led Ronson to Glenn Wheaton, a retired sergeant and former Special Forces psychic spy who confirmed that the military funded this unofficial unit. There was more to the psychics, however, than trying to "remotely access" Soviet weapons plans or predict China’s next move. They were looking at new forms of warfare, including walking through walls, adopting a cloak of invisibility, even stopping an animal’s heartbeat by staring at it.

Wheaton told Ronson about a "goat lab" where the staring took place and this led him to General Stubblebine III, the army’s chief of intelligence in the 1980s. The General is a big fan of Geller and in Ronson’s documentary lays out a whole trayful of twisted cutlery as evidence of his faith. Stubblebine, says Ronson, was so convinced about these ideas that he spent several weeks trying to conjure up a mental state that would enable him to walk through walls. He never succeeded, but became a powerful advocate of New Age thought.

http://news.scotsman.com/features.cfm?id=1310082004

[mrfrapp]

8. Uri Geller

If Uri Geller really is a "psychic spy" for the US military then there really is something wrong. Everything performed by Geller that he claims to be "psychic powers" can be explained and performed by even an average magician -- something the US military would have discovered in about five minutes if they had cared to find out.

[MadHound]

9. This concept is nothing new, however it is nice to see somebody

Keeping up on the latest developments in the field of surreal intelligence.

The CIA, NSA, FBI and others have, since their inception, had a select group of agents and operatives who engaged in all things bizarre. A good place to start reading this history of the bizarre is with "Acid Dreams" by Martin Lee. Follow up with a history of of COINTELPRO and MKULTRA. And if you read some of the histories of Vietnam, you will find that our armed forces penchant for bizarre really got going during that conflict.

It is the much cherished notions of these people that they are little gods on earth, and can do whatever the hell they please, even if it completely nuts. And since rank and position is hardly ever questioned in these circles, these people get by with bizarre behaviour that would get the rest of us arrested. And sadly, many of these people who act strange in their younger and middle age are elected to high office, and continue to behave badly.

This is simply another twist in a long, bizarre, brutal saga.