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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:39 PM
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Like the fifth Beatle, many people can be called the fifth bomber
There seems a surprising number of names that have floated around the media, especially since no-one has been charged yet. Starting from those most known to be involved in the bombings:

Shahzad Tanweer, 22, died in a suicide bomb attack on a subway train near Aldgate station, police say. Tanweer attended Leeds Metropolitan University, where he studied sports science and developed a special interest in cricket. He had a younger brother and two sisters and always lived in the Beeston area of the city of Leeds in northern England. His father was born in Pakistan and owns a fish-and-chips shop. Tanweer went to Lahore, Pakistan, for two months this year to study Islam, said his uncle, Bashir Ahmed. Media reports said he was arrested once for shoplifting.

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Hasib Hussain, 18, killed himself when he blew up a double-decker bus in Tavistock Square, police say. Hussain lived with his family in the Leeds suburb of Holbeck his entire life, according to neighbors. From September 1998 until July 2003, he attended Matthew Murray High School, completing vocational business studies. He reportedly became a more devout Muslim two years ago, according to police, who questioned neighbors. Media reports said police once questioned Hussain for disorderly behavior. On Thursday, police released an image of Hussain wearing a backpack, taken by a CCTV camera as he passed through Luton train station north of London headed to the capital.

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Mohammed Sidique Khan, 30, was born in Britain of Pakistani parents, according to The Times of London. Married and the father of an 8-month-old girl, he has been identified as a suspect by British media. Police have not publicly named him as a suspect. Khan originally lived in the same area of Leeds as Tanweer, but moved five months ago to Dewsbury in West Yorkshire. He worked with disabled children and his wife, Hasina, was involved in education, neighbors said. He was also a Muslim, although one neighbor, Imran Zaman, said he had never seen Khan at the local mosque. Documents belonging to Khan were found in the debris of the Edgware Road subway blast, media reports said. Police have said that property in the name of a third man who traveled to London from West Yorkshire - reportedly Khan - was found at both the Aldgate and Edgware Road sites, but there was no evidence proving he died at either blast.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5141329,00.html


He is said to be Germaine Lindsey (aka "Lindsey Germaine" is many other reports - ed), a Jamaican-born man who is understood to have lived in a house in Aylesbury currently being searched by police.
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Mr Lindsey is believed to have died in the Russell Square bomb attack.
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One neighbour said: "They are a couple, a black man in his early 30s and a woman in her 20s who has converted to Islam. They have a little boy who's about 18 months old.

"They moved into the house about six months ago. They were just about to renew the contract, I think."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/4683285.stm


But there are 2 other names, the first of whom has a bio extremely like Khan - in fact, it must surely be the same person, but with a completely different name:

In Dewsbury, police had sealed off one end of a cul de sac of redbrick semis at Lees Holm. They led away a young mother and her baby. The woman is believed to be Hasina Patel, who moved into the house at Christmas with her husband, Rashid Facha, thought to be the fourth man the police are hunting.

Sara Aziz, a neighbour, said the man had used three cars including a Mercedes and a silver Honda Accord. "They were a very quiet couple," she said. "They would say hi and bye."

She said she had seen Ms Patel, wearing traditional Muslim dress and holding her eight-month-old baby, leave with police.

Yunus Patel, another neighbour, said a taxi driver told him that Mr Facha was a British-born Pakistani in his 20s or 30s who worked with disabled children but was never seen at the local mosque.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1527409,00.html


A PLAYBOY bachelor with a love of the high life has emerged as the fourth suicide bomber behind the London atrocities.

Ejaz "Jacksy" Fiaz, 33, of Leeds, was unofficially named as the man who detonated the Russell Square bomb on the Tube near King's Cross station.

Fiaz, whose brother Naveed is being questioned in relation to the attacks, moved from Leeds to Luton a year ago.

It is believed Fiaz moved to the town, known as a hotbed of Islamist fundamentalism with an Indian girlfriend.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,15933301%5E661,00.html


Though other reports say he has a wife and two chiddren:

Schizophrenic Elvis Presley fan Ejaz Fiaz is now understood to have been the fourth man to take part in the terrorist attack on the capital.
Originally from Beeston in Leeds, Fiaz is thought to have moved initially to Leicester and then to Luton with his wife and two children two years ago.
Chillingly, Fiaz's favourite Elvis song is Make the World Go Away, which he played constantly.
Fiaz, known to many people as Jaxy, is now thought to be the man who joined the three Leeds men at Luton before setting out on the deadly mission.
His younger brother, Naveed, was arrested at his Stratford Terrace home on Tuesday morning when officers from the Metropolitan and West Yorkshire police forces carried out a massive co-ordinated series of raids on a number of homes in the Leeds and Dewsbury area.
Ejaz, together with his two younger brothers and three sisters, lived for many years at an address in Stratford Street. The property was stripped bare when Ejaz moved to Luton.

http://www.leedstoday.net/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=39&ArticleID=1085108


And then there's the 'mastermind', who is "British-born" ,according to several papers, and had a flat in Leeds, obtained through a chemistry PhD:

The mastermind, whose name is known to the Mirror, moved into the tiny housing association flat in Leeds about a month before last Thursday's murderous attacks.

He was given keys to the flat by Egyptian student Magdy Elnashar, 33, who has returned to his homeland and cannot be contacted on his mobile phone.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=15733472&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=7-7--war-on-britain--where-is-the-fifth-man---name_page.html


I'm surprised at the number of names being given out, in British media, for people who are presumed still alive, and therefore potentially chargeable.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:43 PM
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and the 15th twentieth hijacker.
and the 3rd al qaida second in command.

and on and on and on.....
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:43 PM
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1. Whoa! Is Pete Best under investigation?
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:50 PM
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2. Nah he's dead
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:57 PM
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3. Really? I know Stu's dead, but when did Pete die?
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 05:10 PM
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4. I think
he's still around
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 05:12 PM
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5. Tommy Moore
was the one George once called "the best damned drummer we ever had." I liked Ringo. Even if he looks a bit like Arafat, I doubt he's involved.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 05:33 PM
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6. Alas, Tommy's dead.
So that rules him out as a suspect. But where was Ringo on 7/7?

;) :tinfoilhat:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 05:43 PM
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7. Did I manage to hijack my own thread?
Just by the slightly flippant choice of title?

Would you guys like this moved to the Lounge, so you can discuss drummers?
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 06:19 PM
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9. Sorry, I couldn't resist.
One thing lead to another. :)
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 06:18 PM
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8. Where was Ringo
on Live 8?

What do you call someone that hangs out with musicians?






































Drummer
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 06:21 PM
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10. Hey, I like Ringo. That wasn't a dig, was it?
:spank:
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PeaceProgProsp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 06:23 PM
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11. They're probably all suspects and since they lived normal lives but can't
be found, the government wants to spread their names far and wide so that people who might know them can call into the tip lines.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 06:50 PM
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12. Yeah, that could be right
though all the names aren't being widely spread - Ejaz Fiaz, for instance, is getting mentioned less and less, though he was orginally the 'fourth' bomber, and his brother is still under arrest. The Mohammed Sidique Khan/Rashid Facha thing is weird - they definitely seem to be describing the same man.
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