Freeper is saying Wilson admitted Plame was not undercover on CNN

[Quixote1818]

I am sure the dullard who wrote this misunderstood something Wilson said to Wolf Blitzer and is now getting everyone on FR all excited about nothing. They are foaming at the mouth over their over this.

See here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1443066/posts

What a bunch of boobs! :dunce:

Anyone see the interview who can shed light on this?

[Cush]

1. he did say she wasn't "at the time"

but when Wolf asked if she was before, he said that he couldn't talk about it

[H2O Man]

11. I think he

corrected himself a few minutes later, and made clear she wasn't when the magazine article Wolf asked about came out. She was at the time of Novak's article; the infamous Joe Klein article in TIME noted she was active on an investigation regarding the possible sale of WMD components when Novak's article was published.

[libertypirate]

2. Do you really think that who ever is posting that actually paid any

attention to what Mr. Wilson has said. And they don't care to lie the story to death it is sad to be so disigenous and then act like it's the fault of others.

[Disturbed]

3. Joe Wilson said that..

yeah, after she was outed by Novak that she was no longer covert. Duh! After that he and his wife did the Vanity Fair story.

[napi21]

4. Wilson did say she was not working an undercover job at the time.

The difference, as I heard from a CIA agent who was just on Ed Schultz's show is, that NOC agents many times complete one assignment and work a desk job (that is not an under cover task) until they get their next assignment, they are however still considered NOC agents and protected as such.

[wtmusic]

10. What's NOC mean?

:shrug:

[Dudley_DUright]

13. Non-Official Cover

No diplomatic passport/immunity.

[trotsky]

5. The most important thing to keep in mind in all this

is that the CIA - not Wilson, not the Democrats - the frickin' CIA initiated this probe because THEY said it met the specs for naming a covert operative.

Freepers and the RW media are trying desperately to avoid talking about that, for obvious reasons.

[bejammin075]

6. guess 2+ year investigation is for nothing

Oh yeah, they've been investigating this for 2+ years, and they forgot to check if Plame was actually considered undercover or not...that's the ticket!

[GreenPartyVoter]

9. *lol*

[MoJoWorkin]

7. NO, what Wilson said was

that she was NOT undercover at the time of an article that showed a pic of Joe and Val in a car, which was AFTER SHE WAS OUTED. He said she was no longer undercover the DAY THAT NOVAK OUTED HER!! GEEZ

[ClintonTyree]

21. Don't confuse freeps with facts.........

they're as divorced from reality as their president is (hey, he's not MY president). Their pea sized brains have been spinning out of control for days now, they have no idea which way is up or down, what day it is.....they're on sensory overload. People are actually trying to use FACTS to make a case against Rove. There is no room for facts or the truth in the freeper world.
These guys are a riot :rofl: their brains are going to explode soon.

[Catrina]

28. That's exactly

what he said, very clearly. That at the time of the article with her picture, she was no longer undercover. Her cover was blown the day the Novak article appeared ~

When asked if she was working for the CIA again, and if she was undercover now, Joe Wilson said he could not discuss that.

Freepers have a collective and selectivie comprehension mechanism. Their ears are trained to hear only what supports the way they want the world to be! They jump on key words that match words they heard from Rush or Savage/Weiner et al, and exclude everything else.

[proud2BlibKansan]

8. "At the time of the article"

That's what I remember him saying. But I thought he meant the Vanity Fair article which came out 6 months after Novak's article. I didn't think he was referring to Novak's article. But I was also sitting here absorbed in a post on DU so I could have heard him wrong.

He did refuse to say when she had last been a covert agent.

[joemurphy]

17. I think it came in response to a question...

from Wolf Blitzer asking how Wilson would respond to Republican allegations that he had been appearing publicly with his wife and that they'd been photographed together by Vanity Fair in Tribeca -- implying that Wilson was enjoying the attention (and that his wife wasn't really concerned about her anonymity).

Wilson said that his was no longer clandestine when the Vanity Fair picture of them together was taken and that it was long after the Novak article outing her had run.

CNN ran the picture from Vanity Fair. It had Plame's wife wearing a scarf and large black sunglasses.

[devilgrrl]

12. When all else fails - make shit up!

Ain't that right you lurking freeper fucktards?

[Spazito]

14. It was quite the opposite

Wolf asked if it was true that Mrs. Wilson was not undercover at the time of the Novak article and Wilson replied he could not talk about it and made the point that his wife was NO LONGER undercover since the Novak article.

Wolf then went on spewing right wing talking points re his making money writing a book and the article in Vanity Fair which took place AFTER Novak/Rove outed her.

[Quixote1818]

15. What a bunch of fucking group-think sheep!!!!

EVERY POST ON THEIR thinks it's real and no one is trying to check it out or be a devils advocate. They are all walking in lock step! WOW!

They are making fools out of themselves!!! I am ROTFL!!!

:dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :freak: :freak: :freak:

rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You almost never see that here on DU! We rip each other to shreds on almost every topic even when it's great news for us. Their is always someone here on DU telling people not to get too excited or that everyone else is full of shit.:

[trotsky]

22. Heh, if that ain't the truth...

There are maybe a handful of things that all DUers agree on (Bush sucks, for example). Otherwise no matter what the topic, we're weighing in from different sides all the time. Any hint of dissent at FR is met with immediate banishment.

[ClintonTyree]

16. This reply is pretty disgusting.........

I had a hunch she wasn't a covert agent.
Ever since this thing surfaced, there was constant hemming and hahing about whether she was or wasn't.
Frankly, I'd be shocked if she ever was undercover. Odds are she was part of the CIA affirmative action hiring campaign.
And has been nothing more than a paper-shuffler.



21 posted on 07/14/2005 3:10:07 PM PDT by CharlieChan
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Just when I think these asswipes can't possibly set the bar any lower, they pull something like this out of their asses and surprise me. What a bunch of low-life scum. The guy that wrote this probably cleans toilets for a living, a real Bob Boudelang type.

[Bouncy Ball]

18. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4103851

She WAS undercover until Rove outed her.

[ClintonTyree]

24. Uh....don't tell me....

tell the freeper who wrote this. These aren't MY words!

[Bouncy Ball]

27. Oh I know!

I was just saying! :D

[magnolia]

25. These people...

...aren't capable of having more than one thought at a time. They'll tell you that it was Plame who sent her husband to Africa. Which would mean that a person who works in the Affirmative Action hiring campaign who is a paper-shuffler has the authority to send an ambassador to Africa.

They demean her job to make the "outing" less important. Then promote her, to make her responsible for his trip.

I asked a freeper-type at yahoo..."Did she have a trivial desk jockey job...or an important, powerful job?" He told me to go F*** myself.

[Catrina]

31. *rotfl*

That was very mean of you. That's way too much logic for a freeper brain to absorb!!

I thought freepers were saying this was a non-story last week, btw!!

[Pirate Smile]

19. She wasn't when the Vanity Fair article was written. He was responding

to a question about claims that he is using the controversy for his own gain. He said his wife wasn't a clandestine officer at the time of the Vanity Fair article.

He said he doesn't have to be slimed and be quiet and take it.

I wrote a quick summary of the interview on another thread.

Here it is:

He did great. I'm glad Wolf let him respond to the specific list of smears the GOP has put out as talking points.

For the cube rats, Wolf said he had a new Talking Points memo put out by the RNC (I can't remember the exact name) that is the top 10 "lies" by Joe Wilson. Here are some of the top 10 with Wilson's response.

1. Dick Cheney asked Wilson to go - Joe Wilson responded that he was briefed that the VP had asked about the Niger claims to the CIA and in response the CIA decided to send someone to check it out. That is what JW has always said.

2. Valerie Wilson suggested her husband for the job - he denied it and said the Senate Intelligence Committee staff didn't call the CIA and ask them so their report was incomplete.

They went to a commercial and when they came back Wolf just asked questions.

The Rove frog marched out of the WH comment by JW - Wilson said his wife told him he was a little over the top on that one. He said he knew Rove was pushing the story because Chris Matthews called him after he got off the phone with Rove and told JW that JW's "wife is fair game".

Wilson said he doesn't know if Rove committed a crime. Fitzgerald will determine that.

Wolf asked him to respond to claims that he is a political hack - He said he reserves the right to participate in our Democracy just like all other citizens. He was an ambassador under Poppy Bush. He went on the trip to Niger at the request of the Government. He read a letter he received from Poppy Bush that was written 8 months after his trip to Niger and 8 months before his wife was outed.

Wolf asked him to respond to claims that he is using the controversy for his own gain. He said his wife was not a clandestine officer at the time of the Vanity Fair article. He doesn't have to just sit back and be slimed and be quiet and take it.

Wilson said the Special Counsel will have the last word.

Wolf asked him if he would apologize to Rove if Rove isn't indicted. Wilson said there were two things that happened that we know were wrong. One was the sixteen words in the State of the Union that were wrong. The other was his wife's identity being compromised. Wilson said that he isn't responsible for either of those two things and he won't apologize.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4102500#4102738

[Catrina]

32. He was great

He never hesitated over a single question.

You only left out one thing. When Wolf asked him if would apologize to Rove if he is not indicted, he answered as you said, but he also said that regardless of indictments, what Rove did was an egregious abuse of power!

Wilson also told Worl Blitzer that Rove had called a reporter and told him that his wife, Valerie, was 'fair game'. Wolf asked if he could reveal the name of the reporter. Wilson said 'yes, it was Chris Matthews who called' and told him that.

I don't know how anyone could have watched the interview and come away thinking his wife was not undercover. Except a freeper, I suppose!

[Pirate Smile]

36. I knew I missed something in the answer about the apology but I

didn't know exactly what so I just put what I heard.

That is the problem with trying to write or type what someone is saying. If you focus on writing sometimes you miss something.

I did include the part about Tweety. I was glad he was able to get that into the interview.

[dbonds]

20. He said she was not undercover at the TIME OF THE VANITY FAIR ARTICLE.

He could not comment on the time before that.

[tjdee]

23. David Gregory, of MSNBC, just confirmed she *was* undercover.

So that freeper is an idiot.

[nittygritty]

26. Bruce Sanford using the same talking point on Hardball now-

Plame's position was not "undercover"...

[Zorra]

29. A freeper told me that the US border was completely surrounded by water

3 weeks ago, that the US did not border on any other countries, just oceans. (True story)

Freepers will believe just about anything. Their entire belief system is based on illusion, and they do not have the educational background, common sense, or innate intellectual capacity to perceive the difference between fact and fiction.

And that, simply, is why they are Bu*h supporting republicans.

[napi21]

30. Did you ask when Canada became part of the US?

or Mexico??? Geesh, buy that person a cheap map!

[Zorra]

35. No, but I did learn that Alan Jackson owns Ford Motor Company!

Needless to say, I was amazed at that little known "fact".;-)

[Moxygirl]

33. Christ is it just me or are freepers

just too goddamn stupid for their own good. I've tried about six times to read that horrible site and every time I go running for an overdose of Tylenol. What gives with these retards?

[Quixote1818]

34. Check out my post on this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4104510