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Thu Jul-14-05 06:57 PM
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WTF ? Oliphant said WH has plenty to push back at Wilson with |
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What does he mean ????????? he agreed with the Weekly Standard guy.
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Thu Jul-14-05 06:58 PM
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1. oliphant said rove in no hot water legally, WTF ??? nt |
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Thu Jul-14-05 06:59 PM
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5. Bob Woodward says the same thing. |
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I'm fairly certain that Fitzgerald is aware of the laws in this case.
Who the fuck is Oliphant? A writer?
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:11 PM
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12. Do you seriously not know who Tom Oliphant is? |
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He's been covering Washington for what, 30 years?
He writes a column for the Boston Globe and is sydicated around the country, I believe.
He's also been a frequent guest on the PBS News Hour and other television programs.
He's also a weekly guest on the Al Franken show.
He gets all kinds if inside info in Washington, but I doubt he knows what's going on inside the grande jury.
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:22 PM
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I was being facetious.
I just love how these writers and pundits are acting like Fitzgerald is some dummy, since they claim to not understand/not see/whatever why Rove is in trouble.
I'm sure Fitzgerald isn't prosecuting this case just for the free drinks, is all I'm sayin'.
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:53 PM
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You mean I wasted all that typing and stuff and you already knew?
Dang.
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Thu Jul-14-05 09:07 PM
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24. I appreciated it though! |
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I wasn't aware he'd been doing it for so long :)
So thank you, and I bet you helped some lurker understand as well.
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Thu Jul-14-05 09:49 PM
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26. You're very gracious. |
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:47 PM
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22. Is Oliphant the same one who used to do political cartoons? |
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If it is, he must be about 110 now 'cause he was well-established when I was a kid. I'm guessing the present Oliphant must be the cartoonist's son or something.
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Thu Jul-14-05 06:59 PM
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6. huh? Tom? Oliphant said that? |
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Hmmmm. He must have been threatened.
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Thu Jul-14-05 06:58 PM
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2. Doesn't make a difference. The prosecutor will do all the pushing |
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:13 PM
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Thu Jul-14-05 06:58 PM
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3. They are making this all about Wilson. It is NOT about Wilson. |
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It is about Rove and what he said or didn't say to Novak, et al, and the consequences that ensued therefrom.
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:05 PM
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11. Actually, it's really about who leaked this to Rove and about |
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who the other source (or sources) are. It came from someone pretty high up in the administration.
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:13 PM
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14. Most likely, one of the WHIGs. n/t |
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:23 PM
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17. Rove is one of the WHIGs. The real question is: Who told the WHIGs? |
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Thu Jul-14-05 09:59 PM
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27. OK, I give up. What is a WHIG?? |
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Thu Jul-14-05 10:31 PM
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29. White House Intelligence Group nt |
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Thu Jul-14-05 09:12 PM
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25. We aren't certain that Rove didn't obtain the information on his own. |
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Sneaky son-of-a-bitch might have bullied his way into obtaining the information.
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Thu Jul-14-05 06:58 PM
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4. The usual Republican things: Ooga Booga, this isn't his first wife! |
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Ooga Booga! He likes the womenfolk! He buys French wine!
More bullshit.
Joe Wilson is *not* the issue. Hitting back at Joe Wilson does nothing at all. His credibility is not even a small part of the issue at hand.
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:01 PM
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7. Joe Wilson is not being investigated by a grand jury |
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This is all spin and distraction.
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:02 PM
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8. They're grasping at straws |
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This is not about Wilson, and they know it. This is just something they are using to try and distract people. In the end it doesn't matter what they say, it won't influence the investigation.
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:03 PM
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9. What, TWO wives who are undercover CIA agents? |
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I had no idea that Wilson was a bigamist.
Or maybe it's one of his children, this time around. Or his grandpa.
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:04 PM
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10. Casper Milquetoast to represent the Democratic position. |
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Acting like there's something to the Republican lies. Sheesh. Sometimes I want to tear my hair out.
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:13 PM
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15. This does not sound like Oliphant. |
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:27 PM
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Wasn't he just on Al Franken's show today laughing like crazy at the predicament of Rove and the WH?
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:29 PM
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19. Yet again: what does this have to do with Wilson? |
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This is about the WH outing a CIA agent for a cheap, partisan smear. Anything else is a red-herring.
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:32 PM
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20. I guess we need more details |
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so far this entire discussion is based on almost no info.
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Thu Jul-14-05 07:36 PM
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21. Tom Oliphant of the Boston Globe was on MSNBC and gave |
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his opinions as I stated them. I was in shock. :wtf:
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Thu Jul-14-05 10:12 PM
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28. Perhaps it means they can hang his wife out to dry. |
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