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Gimley13 Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:44 PM
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What do you guys think of Ron Paul (R-TX)?
he seems like a good guy, even though he is a repub from Texas
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:45 PM
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1. He's more Libertarian....
and gives Chimpy the whatfor at just about every chance...
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:26 AM
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29. He's not "more" libertarian; he IS libertarian
reportedly, he will change his affiliation back to Libertarian Party after he finishes his Congressional career.
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:45 PM
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2. He's one of the last few principled Republicans
I like him!
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:46 PM
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4. Oh, and he has better positions on several issues than most Dems
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:15 AM
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34. Like WHAT? Why the UN should be abolished?
His positions are only "better" if you think living alone in the woods with an assautl rifle and a mason jar full of kruggerands is "the good life"...
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:46 PM
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3. You lost me at "Seems"
He is a libertarian acting like a republican. He doesnt believe in taxes, but will gladly take your money for his salary.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:47 PM
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6. To be fair...
...he almost always votes against the pay raises when they come to a vote (as well as just about every other spending appropriation)...
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:58 PM
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10. It doesnt take a genius to vote against spending tax dollars.
It takes one to vote intelligently though.

He is a simple minded politician.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:46 PM
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5. He's all right on social issues, but as bad as the repubs on fiscal stuff
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:48 PM
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7. He's really a libertarian that
caucases with the Republicans. There are many things we can agree on and many not so much. I do like that he really does seem to stand for something and isn't just going to follow the party line.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:48 PM
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8. I've heard it said that R.P. is only a Rethug because his district in TX
will only support a Republican. Other than that, he is purported to resemble a Dem more than a 'thug.

I don't know that I agree with that, but that is what one of our Gungeon folks once said.

I seem to recall him running as a Libertarian back when I lived in TX, but could be mistaken.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:27 PM
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20. No, he's a real Republican. Anti government to the extreme
Keep in mind that his biggest beef iwth Bush is that Bush is a big government, borrow and spend and grease the jillionaires type or Republican. Ron Paul's problem isn't that he says crazy things--all Republicans do that--it's that he actually believes the things he says.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:21 AM
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30. More of a Democrat?
I don't think so.

He's a Libertarian. He ran for President on the Libertarian ticket.

It's probably good to have one in the congress. Get a different viewpoint from the two main parties once in a while. Same thing for Bernie Sanders.
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Midnight Rambler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:51 PM
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9. From what I've heard of him...
He seems to be one of the last principled conservatives in existance. So, even if you don't agree with what he has to say, at least you know that he's standing on some actual principles, unlike the sea of hate-filled reactionary wingnuts who'll shill for anything anti-liberal, which is all they really care about.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 10:59 PM
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11. Liberaterian who casts a few enchanting votes
John Birch Society 100%. Anti-gun control, anti-labor, anti-gay rights record. Probably one of the better of a bad bunch which still doesn't say much.
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The Crazy Canadian Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:10 PM
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12. He wrote a really good article on the neocons. Check it out.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:13 PM
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13. you cant run as a democrat in texas
i know the gal who is mayor, she is closet dem. a while back i said something to her husband about it and he made it clear in no uncertain terms she was a republican

even if you were a dem, would have to run repug.

i hear this dude is libertarian though. that is another option if you dont want to run as a repug. we had races with repugs and libertarians. very few had a dem running
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:18 PM
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14. depends on where you live in Texas...
we will have 40+ Democratic judicial candidates in our county in 2006....
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:21 PM
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15. well up here in the panhandle......., lol lol n/t
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:29 PM
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21. yeah... well, good luck with that!
:hi: you've got a lot of work to do up there! :P
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:31 PM
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23. That's so true
The Mayor of our little town is a Dem. You can do that here, but you can't everyplace in Texas.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:23 PM
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17. Ann Richards might disagree with you n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:29 PM
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22. that was a while ago
religion has gotten hold. again, i am not in the more liberal texas, i am in the bible thumpin west texas. i would like to see it change. i think it could change. but there is lots and lots of division. the churches here are preachin, libruls, bad, evil, satan themselves
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:32 PM
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25. I really miss her
:cry:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:32 PM
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27. 2 things about Ann Richards before we canonize her...
1st, she won one gubernatorial election 15 years ago and she's won nothing since. She's a smart enough politician to quit while the quittin's good. 2nd, her victory only came about in 1990 because the Republicans had trashed the economy and, more importantly, her opponent spent half the campaign running around making jokes about rape. Back then, that'd cost you in an election round here. Today, I'm not so sure.

OK, we can no proceed toward canonizing Ann Richards. She really was a gift from heaven.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:22 PM
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16. there are no good republicans
there are no good republicans
there are no good republicans
there are no good republicans
there are no good republicans
there are no good republicans
there are no good republicans
there are no good republicans
there are no good republicans
there are no good republicans
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there are no good republicans
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there are no good republicans

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:32 PM
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24. he voted for the bankruptcy bill
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=3503&can_id=BC031929

He voted against Stem Cell Research Bill of 2005

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_keyvote_detail.php?vote_id=3525&can_id=BC031929

Im sorry if it seems like im digging dirt on him, but I am dead set against any republican winning anything for a long long time.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:23 PM
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18. I've met him a couple of time. He's a kook, but he's an honest kook.
You won't find a more sincere man in Congress. He lives his values, however wrong his ideas are, and stands on principle. No one pushes him around--ever--and it's certainly cost him a lot of political opportunities with the Bushes in power.
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:36 AM
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31. That seems to sum him up well
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:25 PM
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19. He Is, Sir, Merely A Libertarian Crank
Not too far off a posse comitatus man. Definitely not on our side....
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:32 PM
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26. Succinctly and accurately said.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:39 PM
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28. Seconded.
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meg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:07 AM
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32. homophobic and anti-choice
So I guess he's okay if you are a heterosexual male who likes discrimination while keeping women in their place. Doesn't that describe your typical Repub?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:14 AM
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33. A Malignant Lump,. Crazier Than A Shithouse Rat
He's pretty much opposed to anything that makes up civilization, including child labor laws, birth control, public education, evnvironmental regulations, the UN, etc. etc. etc...
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