MSNBC Just Declared the Rove Story DEAD

[JCMach1]

Their source?:

You guessed it, the latest memo from the RNC.


:grr:

ON EDIT... LINK TO THE STORY

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8577190/

[spanone]

1. We should call the Grand Jury and let them go home. LOL

[rkc3]

2. I wonder if they told Fitzgerald?

[mattclearing]

3. Yeah, they also declared the Iraq War "Justified," didn't they?

What the hell do they know?

[still_one]

6. and they declared the Afganistan and Iraq war as over

does that mean in two months when indictments are passed down they will say they made a mistake?

[mattclearing]

20. Not likely. n/t

[Goldmund]

4. .

:rofl:

[Tamarin]

5. Rush, too, lets take bets on how many others recite

the talking points today, LOL. Maybe this means they will stop issuing talking points?

[stanwyck]

9. good idea. Then we'll know

for sure which "journalists" basically just "Gannon" the news. At least Jeff admitted he was a prostitute. Give him that. Kyra Phillips still presents herself as a member of the press.

[lancdem]

LOL

In their dreams.

[halobeam]

8. In their nightmares, more like it.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

7. Who, exactly, just said that?

I'm making a list to laugh at later. :)

[JCMach1]

13. Female talking head was the commentator

Please note, MSNBC comes through ORBIT here in the UAE (it could be a delayed feed). I believe it was live though.

They quoted the RNC memo and a blurb from Sen. KAy Bailey Hutchinson and then basically said and I paraphrase: This apparently means their was n wrong-doing on Rove's part...

[Lone_Star_Dem]

21. Thank you.

I'll send Senator Hutchinson some information to help enlighten her on this investigation.

[Jane Austin]

40. "This apparently means their was n wrong-doing on Rove's part..."

When I heard that story, they were quoting the RNC's talking points.

That phrase is included in their statement today.

Kudos to MSNBC correspondent Bob Kur for showing us and talking about the RNC talking points.

I'm glad they are finally drawing attention to that technique.

[emulatorloo]

10. Any AP article containing a paragraph like this is suspect:

<snip>

Plame wasn’t undercover when outed

Wilson later told CNN that his wife was no longer in an undercover job at the time Novak’s column first identified her. “My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity,” he said.

<snip>

Um, I think what Wilson is saying is that Novak blew her cover.

Looks like they are letting Ken Mehlman write thier articles now.

[Zen Democrat]

35. You're right. I heard that and it was clear Wilson meant that his wife

was no longer covert as soon as the Novak story hit the street.

All that spinning otherwise is just for the court of public opinion. But the public no longer sees the Bush Administration as "honest and trustworthy" so they've got a big job ahead to make Karl Rove a sympathetic character. Even his supporters know Karl Rove is a dangerous man. This attempt to portray him as an innocent bystander is about as believable as "Mission Accomplished".

[seafan]

41. "Plame wasn't undercover ((any more)) when outed...."

It also seems to me that this is saying that from the moment Novak's column went to press, she was instantaneously exposed.


These people should be hooked up to wind generators. It would solve our energy problems.

[emulatorloo]

42. See this DU thread - Wilson issued clarification - Article blew her cover

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1630684

MSNBC updated too! (same link as above):

<snip>

Wilson clarifies comments about wife
In an interview on CNN earlier Thursday before the latest revelation, Wilson kept up his criticism of the White House, saying Rove’s conduct was an “outrageous abuse of power ... certainly worthy of frog-marching out of the White House.”

Wilson also said “my wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity.”

In an interview Friday, Wilson said his comment was meant to reflect that his wife lost her ability to be a covert agent because of the leak, not that she had stopped working for the CIA beforehand.

His wife’s “ability to do the job she’s been doing for close to 20 years ceased from the minute Novak’s article appeared; she ceased being a clandestine officer,” he said.

<snip>

[seafan]

45. Thanks, emulatorloo. The spinners were in full force.

Isn't it amazing what lengths the Rove/Bush apologists will go to, when the reality of this situation slaps them up side the head?

[rman]

11. translation: General Electric wants the story dead

i wonder why

[yurbud]

16. it would be funny if that was supposed to be an internal memo

and someone got pissed off and posted it.

Hillbilly Hitler art:



Blog:

[swag]

12. Stop the presses, Time Magazine.

No story here.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

14. I don't care...

I'm putting up all of my WANTED FOR TREASON posters
all over town (and neighboring towns) ANYWAY

[Garbo 2004]

Like MSNBC's ratings? LOL. The story will continue even if MSNBC doesn't

air another minute on it and becomes the Aruba News Network.

[SammyWinstonJack]

29. Aruba News Network.

:spray: Is that the new name for Faux Snooze?

[Garbo 2004]

32. LOL, I was flipping channels & observed even O'Reilly is on the case. LOL

[TheFarseer]

15. If this is true

why didn't they say this in the first place? They need a week to make this up? Did their best spin-doctors have the week off?

[baby_mouse]

17. Whether the STORY's alive or dead DOESN'T MATTER.

It's the criminal investigation that matters.

[dogday]

18. They sure are talking about it enough on MSNBC

if it is dead, it is hard to tell. The right would like it to be but the GJ is still out on this one....

[writes2000]

22. The Story is FAR From Dead. Look At The Drop in Bush's Honesty Ratings

The right is DESPERATE for this to go away.

The more people listen and think about it, the more they cannot deny the corrupt, treasonous actions of the Bush administration.

[dogday]

24. They keep changing their story every day

the media is all over this and they are not going to let go. Rove has made some enemies in his life and payback is a bitch....

[understandinglife]

19. More 'last throes' from the traitor's spokespeople .....

WATCH IT; SPREAD IT http://www.bushflash.com/right.html

Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us - How ever long it takes, the day must come when tens of millions of caring individuals peacefully but persistently defy the dictator, deny the corporatists their cash flow, and halt the evil being done in Iraq and in all the other places the Bu$h neoconster regime is destroying civilization and the environment in the name of "America."

[oc2002]

23. that story makes no sense!

Rove is saying he learned Plame was in the CIA from a jounralist source, well who?

And he just casualy mentions it to NOvak? wtf? this is alice in wonderland!

[lvx35]

28. THE PSYCHIC JOURNALIST!!!

Who knows who is in the CIA without security clearance, that's who!!!! Geeze!

"Rove told the grand jury that by the time Novak had called him, he believes he had similar information about Wilson’s wife from another reporter but had no recollection of which reporter had told him about it first, the source said."

[Snivi Yllom]

25. I could have told you this was a non-story 2 weeks ago

on edit maybe 2 years ago

no surprise this is going nowhere. It will be dead next week. Collins will remain behind bars for the forseeable future.

This whole thing has been a huge distraction with the only benefit being a lot of stupid Americans will catch the knews and have come away with the feeling of a WH scandal.

[Jane Austin]

43. "I could have told you this was a non-story 2 weeks ago"

Do you have some inside info you can share with us?

The grand jury and the judges (who have referred to the "gravity of the suspected crime") don't seem to think this is a non-story.

And by "Collins" do you mean Miller?

[dogday]

48. Judy Collins is behind bars OMG

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Oh you mean Judith Miller.....

[Media_Lies_Daily]

49. Right. Whatever you say. Make sure you inform the ongoing Grand Jury.

[lvx35]

26. The psychic journalist eludes memory.

"Rove told the grand jury that by the time Novak had called him, he believes he had similar information about Wilson’s wife from another reporter but had no recollection of which reporter had told him about it first, the source said."

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

27. Not MSNBC - someone ON MSNBC

And that's not really news - any number of talking heads for the Republicans have been trying to talk this one dead. Also, the link you provide certainly doesn't make it seem like it's dead. Your headline could definitely be improved upon.

Plus, it is not just the original outing, this is also about: misuse of classified documents, conspiracy, perjury, obstruction of justice and who knows what else.

[writes2000]

39. I agree with your take on this.

[sepia_steel]

30. I"m not

actually worried about this. I think this will continue to get media attention. I've read on several petitions comments from Republicans who say that this is the last straw and that they quit the party. This isn't over, folks :)

[samsingh]

31. if its over is Rove going to prison?

[Ganja Ninja]

33. Mission Accomplished!

We've heard them declare victory before haven't we.

[xchrom]

34. well, there it is -- all that ''journalistic'' unbiased, let the chips

fall where they may, unvarnished, truth.
:rofl:

it's the activist left and their ability to keep the information flowing that will determine where this goes -- not even fitzgerald can do that.

[K-W]

36. "Rove indicated he had heard something like that"

How on earth is Novak Rove's source if Rove already knew about it.

[nashuaadvocate]

37. EVERYBODY CALM DOWN. THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT IS AWESOME.

The media is running well behind its own story--they don't appreciate, yet, that this new development worsens, rather than aids, the White House's situation, as it confirms yet again that Rove lied to the public, as did the White House, and was clearly responsible for a prosecutable leak.

I've blogged about this in simple, brief terms here. If anyone can find holes in the theory that this development helps the Rove accusers enormously, let me know.

S.

[Jane Austin]

44. Great post, Nashuaadvocate.

Thanks for some perspective.

[rumpel]

38. It does not say the story is dead. It also relies o outdated statements by

the prosecutors! Watch out for the spin

“Karl provided all pertinent information to prosecutors a long time ago,” Luskin said. “And prosecutors confirmed when he testified most recently in October 2004 that he is not a target of the investigation.”

The most important point is that the "invesigation has shifted", and therefore the statement above is outdated and therefore neither here nor there.

From the column of John W Dean

U.S. District Court Judge Thomas Hogan's opinion in the case gives one clue. In discussing the sealed affidavit filed by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, Judge Hogan noted that "the government's focus has shifted as it has acquired additional information during the course of the investigation" and "now needs to pursue different avenues in order to complete its investigation." Though vague, these references are also significant.

snip

That would explain Judge Hogan's comment that the focus of the investigation, according to the government affidavit, has shifted. It would explain why a seasoned prosecutor has gone after Miller and Cooper, and why a number of federal judges have seen no problem in his doing so.

more analysis at
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20050520.html

[nini]

46. He still told Cooper so regardless of how he got the plame info

he leaked it himself.

It ain't over.

[Disturbed]

47. The RW Corp. Media and the RW are braindead.

We should disconnect their feeding tube.