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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:11 PM
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Poll question: Re: freeper trolls and grammar / spelling errors.
Are freeper trolls really that uneducated or do they misspell and use bad grammar on purpose for some reason? If so, what reason?
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chemp Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:13 PM
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1. first in!
All the freepers I have met are dumb as stumps, or too lazy to check their spelling, grammar.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 01:02 AM
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35. Well, what else do you expect?
After all, they can't got to college because of all the damn liberals. All that fancy book learnin might contradict the bible and then their little freeper heads would explode!:silly:
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:13 PM
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2. vhat grammerr mistax?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:38 PM
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17. stupid troll; it's MISTEAKS
sheesh, hit the spellcheck once in a while.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:15 PM
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3. Broad Brush
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 01:15 PM by DanCa
I think anyone who uses this term is immeadiately giving themselves as a freeper. As far as my grammar goes all's I know is that she makes good pudding :D
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:40 PM
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19. Mmmmmm...pudding.
Sid :)

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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:16 PM
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4. They are way too busy fighting for freedom...
you know, defending the country from evil libruls, to worry about little things like that.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:16 PM
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5. I voted for uneducated BUT...
I really think it's one jerk posting over and over again.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:18 PM
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6. Hmmmmm
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 01:24 PM by mmonk
I caught myself spelling liar "lier" in a recent post. I guess this disqualifies me from criticizing any spelling errors they may have.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:18 PM
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7. Why do regular old Liberal posters
have bad grammer or misspell?

I mean, I know why I do (cause I don't give a shit), but what about other people?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:21 PM
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10.  I have hand tremors and I am heavily medicated
So am I excused?
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:00 PM
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23. That's a better excuse than mine
So, sure.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:30 PM
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25. thanks... i
am the same-
i guess if folks reject what i have to say because of spelling and grammer errors, what i have to say wouldn't matter anyway.

It always makes me feel 'small' when those who are 'grammer' and 'spelling' impared, or impatient to speak before they lose the thought, are seen as potential 'trolls- or freepers'-

i ain't no troll, and i sure as hell ain't no freeper-
but i am wierd.
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:20 PM
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8. Must be an unpopular opinion here, but..
I know that most of the freepers who troll here do have bad spelling, grammar, etc. However, it's not just a freeper thing. My brother is very liberal, antiwar, cares for the poor and homeless, and he can't spell worth a dime. Same story for some others in my family, and a very dear friend of mine. One can have educated ideas and perceptions and still have trouble with writing.
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:21 PM
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9. Reminds me of Homer Simpson:
"English? Why do I have to learn English - it's not as if I'm ever gonna go to England...?"
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:23 PM
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11. some people just type fast...including DUers
Freeper or not, some of us type fast and as any writing teacher will tell you, you are always the worst at spotting out your own spelling errors. That's why writers use Editors...

isn't it possible that freepers are idiots because they have idiotic ideas?

I've seen plenty of freepers with good spelling. Good spelling didn't make tax cuts any more effective at spurring the economy..or make those WMDs appear... or get Rove of the hook for threatening our national security...

My computer has great spelling. far better then mine. It's still a big dumb box incapable of independent thought.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:24 PM
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12. We need to start a freeper double dutch super secret thesaurus
Full of freeper slang and code words for DU.
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giant_robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:25 PM
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13. Right-wing attitudes are are oversimplified and black-and-white...
...the left recognizes that most problems are complex, subtle, and nuanced. Which do you think the uneducated would opt for?
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:28 PM
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14. It's Because
They're accustomed to typing with one hand while they're on the internets!

:evilgrin:
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:30 PM
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15. I can spell, but my fingers sometimes can't type
especially when I start getting angry.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:32 PM
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16. As a person who is often grammatically challenged and
my spelling isn't as good as it used to be (senior memory lapses), I can't really cast stones. However, many do seem to be high school dropouts IMO. It could account for the reason they are dependent on sound and video media for information instead of reading about current events.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:31 PM
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26. Your posts are always stunningly literate.
Without fail.
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GeekMonkey Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:38 PM
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18. i done tipe so gud but i spel grate!
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:43 PM
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20. Many intelligent educated people can't spell.
Being a naturally born good speller, I thought anybody with half a brain could spell. Working as a medical transcriptionist and having extremely educated, intelligent, and well-spoken physicians trying to help me do my job by spelling (and misspelling) words and telling me where to put the commas rid me of my spelling snobbery.

But still, why don't the freepers spellcheck? And is their homeschooled children learning?
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 12:50 AM
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34. Yes, I've known otherwise intelligent people who could not spell.
I really should feel blessed that I never had trouble with spelling and grammar. This was an "elitist" post, but damn it, it's hard to take the trolls seriously when they can't spell the simplest words. :( The last one was so illiterate I had trouble deciphering his version of the English language. It was so bad I wondered if he did it on purpose. Every DUer can communicate better than that, so I wondered if it was a double agent troll or something. :)

DanCa, I know of your Parkinson's and heavy medication. Everyone else who has trouble with spelling, I didn't want to call you out. :( If I joined a mathematics forum, I would look illiterate and silly. That is for DAMN SURE! :D When a sense of direction and mathematical skills were passed out, I got someone else's leftovers, I think. Also, I wish I had better people skills.

Note to self: remember your limitations.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:48 PM
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21. Ignorance
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 01:49 PM by XemaSab
Broad, multifaceted, ignorance.

I know there are DU'ers who can't spell due more to a biochemical issue than an educational problem, and we've certainly all had spelling and grammatical errors in our posts, but it seems like most DU'ers who can't spell KNOW they can't spell and make up for it with intelligent (albeit poorly spelled) posts.

Freeper trolls just don't seem to be aware that their spelling is totally sub par, or that their ideas are just not well-reasoned. Most of their posts tend to be short drive-bys, which are easier to proof than 500 word manifestos (oooh, spelled it "minifestos"... cool neologism).

In short, they're morans.

Edit: spelling.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:51 PM
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22. They're uneducated; but DU isn't perfect, either
On an international political board I also post on, the standard of spelling and grammar from the native English-speaking members is definitely better than on DU (when they're being serious, anyway; in the equivalent of the DU Lounge, it can end up looking like a series of text messages - a lot of them are students).

Also, consider that the obvious trolls are the people who think they can start slagging off Democrats, and get away with it on a moderated board: that alone is an indication they're not that sharp. The more intelligent trolls manage to hold a meaningful conversation.
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:17 PM
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24. It is All a Brilliant Strategy!
They are trying to pretend they are not from the U.S. when they ask phony questions about "why the bad people blame Bush," or when they pretend to "ask an honest question openly, since I admit I am unaware of the problems here," etc. Also, they are assholes.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:31 PM
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27. YOU CAN'T BE SERIES!!!!!!111111111
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:39 PM
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28. TRUTH BE DEMAND11111
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:47 PM
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29. It's not the spelling or the grammar, it's
their frame of reference. It's narrow. Freepers, as a group, tend to be less educated, OR less traveled, OR less inquisitive about the world. There are many progressive people without much education. But they're curious about the world. They volunteer. They help people. They read.
The freeper types I know are scared. They're scared of "others". Those of different races. Or religions. Or beliefs.
Liberals are confident. And happier. We like life. We like people. We like ideas.
We don't live in fear they "someone" is going to come and take away our valued stuff.
We want to know; ignorance is not a virtue.
One of Bush's worst legacies, and he has many, is his elevation of anti-intellectualism.
Dumb is good. Dumb is honest. Dumb is real. That's Dubya.
No. It isn't. It's just dumb.
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:50 PM
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30. Very well put
Especially (though not exclusively!) everything after "Liberals are confident..."
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:53 PM
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31. I don't think I have ever heard liberals defined more accurately
Wow did you nail the chasm.
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evolved Anarchopunk Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 03:29 PM
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33. be-A-utiful stanwyck, *wells up with pride* n/t
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 03:11 PM
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32. Whay doy ou hat Amarica?
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