Fight_n_back
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Fri Jul-15-05 04:31 PM
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When is it okay to leak a NOC's name? |
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If Joe Wilson made the whole thing up, never went to Niger and just wrote a report and stole the expense account money:
Then it would still not be okay to blow his wife's cover.
If Valerie Plame were the worst CIA operative ever and was attempting to distract from that by haveing her husband cover her tracts with a repost on WMD:
Then it would still not be okay to blow her cover.
If Valerie Plame was a double agent working for Osama bin Laden herself:
Then it would still not be okay to blow his wife's cover.
Becuase it blows the cover of EVERYOEN who is currently working with her on WMD.
Which may have been the point of the whole exercise, actually.
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Fri Jul-15-05 04:35 PM
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that last line explains it all to me!
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Dave Reynolds
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Fri Jul-15-05 04:35 PM
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Leaking that can get many people killed.
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Fri Jul-15-05 04:38 PM
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3. BushCo and Rove n Company seem to want to lay the fault on Valerie Plame |
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...but the truth is that Plame's CIA operation was getting very close to the the sources and channels of terrorist funding, exposing the real group behind 9-11 and blowing up Bush's whole rationale for invading Iraq. Rove would not allow that, so they exposed her and discredited Joe Wilson's report. Thugs, that what BuchCo and Rove are....criminals and traitors.
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Fri Jul-15-05 04:41 PM
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Peace.
www.missionnotaccomplished.us - How ever long it takes, the day must come when tens of millions of caring individuals peacefully but persistently defy the dictator, deny the corporatists their cash flow, and halt the evil being done in Iraq and in all the other places the Bu$h neoconster regime is destroying civilization and the environment in the name of "America."
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Fri Jul-15-05 04:48 PM
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5. Whenever they're breaking international law or the UN Charter. |
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Fri Jul-15-05 04:55 PM
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that is when the Justice Department gets involved.
It would never be appropriate for an administration official to reveal names even if the agents were involved with illegal activities. Too many innocecnts would be murdered.
Your characterization of Valerie Plame as a "thug" could use some explanation.
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Fri Jul-15-05 05:03 PM
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7. CIA = Thug. Try looking up what the CIA has done over the years. |
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Start with Honduras. Add, Guatamala, Chile, Cuba, Angola, Congo, Iran, Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia, Mozambique, El Salvador, Nicaragua, India, and the list goes dismally on.
Oh, I know. "There are some good CIA agents..". Just like there were some "good" Nazis who didn't like what the guys at Treblinka and Auschwitz were doing.
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Fri Jul-15-05 05:10 PM
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8. So you support Karl Rove in this |
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its always good to get another point of view.
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Fri Jul-15-05 06:27 PM
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9. How did you possibly arrive at that conclusion? |
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Perhaps you support the murderous doings of the CIA?
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Sat Jul-16-05 04:36 PM
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10. This post was in regard to Karl Rove's exposure of a covert agent |
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You took an oppositional approach that is basically the administrations position, that it is okay for a citizen to expose a CIA operatve if their own morality deems it necesarry. I happen to believe in democracy and the rule of law.
It is always interesting to hear from those who disagree with that position.
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Sat Jul-16-05 04:44 PM
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11. The rule of law doesn't apply to the CIA? |
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What in the world are you talking about? Surely, you don't think that the CIA is a "democratic" organization. If you you do, try googling CIA/Vietnam, Congo, Angola, Honduras, Guatamala, Chile, etc.
If you consider them a law abiding organization you are sorely deceived.
As for Rove, I would love to see his "patriotic" ass hung on the petard of his own making.
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Sat Jul-16-05 04:51 PM
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12. What you are talking about is not relevant to the case |
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It is beyond the pale for a White House official to expose a CIA agent for any reason. You seem to disagree.
How do the actions of the CIA have anything to do with my feelings about democracy and the rule of law? Perhaps you should start a thread where only you can post so you don't have to worry about things like listening.
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Sat Jul-16-05 04:54 PM
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13. There are honorable factions in the CIA |
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Edited on Sat Jul-16-05 04:54 PM by Tommymac
that are probably going to help get us out of this mess...where do you think some of these leaks may coming from?
To condemn a whole organization for what they did wrong in the past is just wrong thinking. The CIA is a tool that is used to carry out policy...blame the policy makers, not the worker bees.
You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater...you instead drain out the scummy water and replace it with clean stuff...
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