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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:24 PM
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Based on Roves Non Disclosure Agreement What Are His Chances?
Over on FR they are celebrating and thinking Rove is in the clear but according to Waxman Rove was NOT at liberty to repeat classified information he may have learned from a reporter. Instead, he had an affirmative obligation to determine whether the information had been declassified before repeating it.

So what does this mean for Rove? What are his chances of getting off completely now? Could he still go to jail or will he get a slap on the wrist? Can he still be indicted?

Could someone dumb this part down for me?

The sanctions for such a breach include “reprimand, suspension without pay, removal, termination of classification authority, loss or denial of access to classified information, or other sanctions.”






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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:27 PM
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1. Watch it turn out he never actually signed a non disclosure agreement.
What a defense!
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:28 PM
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2. This is how it's supposed to happen:
The sanctions for such a breach include “reprimand, suspension without pay, removal, termination of classification authority, loss or denial of access to classified information, or other sanctions.”

That's not to say it will because Bush will pretend it doesn't exist, and the Republicans will not do anything about it.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:33 PM
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3. If he learned it from a reporter, and it can't be proven that he
learned it from a classified source, nobody's going to care.

If it's proven that he first learned it from documents or a classified source, he's in serious trouble.
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Poppyseedman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:50 PM
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5. I'm always amazed the people at DU
have not learned this one simple truth:

The power elites, like Rove or for that matter any administration personnel, present or previous, don't have the same set of standards applied to them as your average joe citizen does.

If it was one of us, we would be hauled off to jail until we are proved innocent.

Absolutely nothing will come of this and Waxman knows it.

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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:55 PM
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6. I still think he'll be in trouble if he violated, provably so, his
disclosure. He may eventually get off, but they'll have to take politically damaging steps to save Rove's career. And that'll hurt repubs, overall.

As for the first point--I think they'll look at the intent of the nondisclosure agreement. If it's provable that Rove didn't first learn of Plame's "agenthood" from a classified source, or didn't know it was classified, I'm not sure that the non-disclosure agreement forces him to double check.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:55 PM
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8. The non-disclosure agreement
requires him to double check.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:38 AM
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9. Everything?
Somebody that's signed one of those must have real difficulties in social situations.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:56 PM
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7. Let's see what happens.
After all, we are none of us fortune tellers.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:37 PM
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4. Oh, sure. He may still be subject to perjury or obstruction of justice or
conspiracy charges in addition to breach of the non-disclosure agreement, which leads to a whole other set of sanctions.
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