And HERE it is: The red herring to take our attention off of Plamegate

[BigBearJohn]

BEIJING - A Chinese general said Beijing might respond with nuclear weapons if the United States attacked China in a conflict over Taiwan, news reports said Friday.

The exchange could add to tensions with Washington at a time of U.S. worries about China’s military buildup and the proposed takeover of the oil company Unocal Corp. by a Chinese state-run company.

“If the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition into the target zone on China’s territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons,” Maj. Gen. Zhu Chenghu, a dean at China’s National Defense University, told visiting Hong Kong-based reporters. His remarks were reported by The Asian Wall Street Journal and The Financial Times.

Zhu stressed he was expressing a personal view, not official policy, and was confident that China and the United States would not go to war, the reports said. While Zhu is a serving officer, he isn’t involved in policy-making.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8587597/

[jsamuel]

1. Fear Fear Fear

Don't let it paralize you...

[grytpype]

21. Read Dear Leader's thought about the Chinese nuke threat.

Click here:

http://dearleadersdailythought.blogspot.com/

[Tommymac]

2. Yawn. That has been known since the 70's.

A standard part of our Security planning for that part of the world since China got the bomb.

[Renew Deal]

3. So are you saying that Bush made the General say it?

[Jackpine Radical]

18. What threat was the general responding to?

Think something mighta been back-channeled to Beijing to cause some sort of reaction?

[cornermouse]

4. Looks to me like they're serving notice on the U.S.

Welcome to our future.

[BigBearJohn]

5. and who was it who said "nothing EVER happens by accident in politics" ?

[Jackpine Radical]

20. FDR.

[Democracy White]

6. Oh wells if we do go into a nuclear apocylapse

I wouldn't care, the radiation would kill me and I would be on the Other Side, a much better place than this hellhole we are in.

Dee

[yorkiemommie1]

7. i feel like that too sometimes

... it's so depressing.

[BigBearJohn]

9. there is no hell -- THIS is it. A living hell

[Democracy White]

13. I agree, this plane is HELL

And when I leave I will never be so glad.

Dee

[dbonds]

17. New T-Shirt Idea...

I've been to hell. I lived in George Bush's 'Murka.

[Democracy White]

27. Good slogan!!!

[Syncronaut Seven]

22. There's power in that despair! Use it!

Frankly, I'm rather ticked off right now! How DARE they do that to us! To our children. Don't sacrifice your precious time to defeatism. Our time has yet to come. :hug:

[Vincardog]

8. right The red herring don't bother with it. Move along nothing to

see here.

[aquart]

10. And lose their market? Get a grip.

Those multitudinous contracts China is negotiating with other nations haven't gone into play yet, have they?

[BigBearJohn]

11. It doesn't matter if it's true... it takes everyone's attn off Plamegate

that's what pisses me off

[dbonds]

12. Isn't this very old news? Like even Clinton Erra stuff.

[Syncronaut Seven]

16. Like even Nixon era stuff.

Yea.

[Imajika]

14. Yup, Karl Rove...

...most certainly made the Chinese General say this. Then, he ordered the MSM to write stories about it - all to draw attention away from the Plame scandal.

Come on now, be serious. Real things happen in the world, loud mouth military guys say stupid stuff, natural disasters occur, actual terrorists blow buildings and people up, etc, etc... Karl Rove and the Bush administration aren't behind everything that happens on earth, and don't control how the media will cover these things. To think such a thing is to give them way, way too much credit.

Imajika

[grytpype]

15. Uhoh Duhbya, better invade China!

They just threatened us with their nukulr weapons! Better invade em before they attack!

[CityZen-X]

19. Let's Hear Bu$h*t Say....

"Bring it on!"

[halobeam]

23. The people here would be in the streets charging toward

the White house, IMO. No one would even stand for Iran right now... China? What a joke. How stupid does the MSM think we are? Holy shit. Man, that gets me. I know the bottom line of all of this bullshit we are going through with this admin. is China. "they just can't be the super power" .. yep that's right. Well, they already are, IMO. They've got the money honey, and that's what counts. Oh, yeah and the military too. But it isn't going to go down like this. Bush has people shooting themselves so as not to fight RIGHT NOW!!!!!, could you imagine? We'd be the first army to massacre themselves before even arriving at the war.

[justjones]

24. Umm, how is this news? This is just stating the obvious....

So, China will attack the United States if the United States attacks China. How is this news?

And I can't find the context in which Zhu made these comments. Anyone know? Perhaps it will clarify WHY this is even being reported.

At any rate, it's just more rhetoric to drum up fear in the masses, both here and in China. It's called social control. They have it down to a mother-fuckin' science, those commies. But, wait....we aren't commies and we are being controlled by the same methods.....hmmmm.

:hide:

[Gloria]

25. And the response should be: Well, Bush F*cked up the entire

Asian theater, so he's put us at risk, there, too.


PS--I'm going to post the article about South Korea pulling $$ from the American Enterprise Inst. (yes, you heard right) because AEI is promulgating cutting S. Korea loose and wants a preemptive war.....

Actually, I posted it yesterday....will find the URL.

[Gloria]

26. S.Korea pulls $$ from neocons....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4105729&mesg_id=4105729


3//Asia Times Online, Hong Kong Jul 15, 2005

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/GG15Dg01.html



SEOUL’S WARNING TO THE US ON PYONGYANG

By Todd Crowell

The South Korean government has withdrawn its financial support for an influential Washington DC-based policy institute to show its displeasure over a series of articles about the North Korean nuclear weapons situation that the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) published in the summer issue of its magazine, The American Enterprise.

"Nip it Now," reads the cover line of the July-August issue, with a picture of a huge nuclear explosion. The sub-heading reads, "Averting a Nightmare in North Korea." Inside, the authors lay out the case for dissolving the alliance with South Korea, stifling China if it doesn't pressure the North into giving up its nuclear weapons program, and waging a preemptive war.

The American Enterprise is a publication of the AEI, which has provided many of the senior figures of the current Republican administration. Part of its US$30 million annual budget has been underwritten for years by the Korea Foundation, a government institution under the Foreign Ministry in Seoul.

Korean Foreign Minister Ban Ki-moon recently told a committee of the National Assembly that the Korea Foundation had ended is support for the AEI because of the articles. He said that South Korea had contributed about $1.4 million to the institute's activities since 1992. President Roh Moo-hyun fired back himself: under no circumstances will South Korea allow the US to attack North Korea.

The authors of the controversial articles are Daniel Kennelly, managing editor of The American Interest, conservative writers Gordon Cucullu and Victor Davis Hanson, James Lilley, a former ambassador to South Korea and China, and Nicholas Eberstadt, author of The End of North Korea.

That a major publication aimed at conservatives should raise the issue of North Korea's nuclear weapons program, and advocate preemptive war and regime change, is fairly standard neo-conservative fare. What is unusual is the amount of venom that was directed at America's presumed ally in any such endeavor, South Korea.

MORE MORE

[BigBearJohn]

28. ,m.,.,

[Catherine Vincent]

29. Yup.

When I saw the news clip about that I thought, well that's one of the distractions for Treasongate. What a coincidence!