Prediction: Monday Pile-on by the right

[Walt Starr]

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Matthew Cooper

[BeatleBoot]

1. "MATT COOPER: GOP Enemy Number One"

"Destroy the messenger, if you don't like the message."

I hope they don't...he seems like a cool cat.

[Walt Starr]

2. They will be brutal

He will be tarred as the biggest liar in human history.

[wtmusic]

5. I dunno Walt

This is grand jury testimony. And Cooper was much more noncommittal than others (like Clarke frinstance).

[H2O Man]

25. Not true at all.

Cooper indicated to Russert that he told the grand jury about "other sources" in the White House. What Clarke did was nice, but it wasn't in the context of a legal case that posed any risk to the White House. What Cooper did is in absolutely no sense "noncommittal."

[napi21]

3. That's fine. Let them attack the press! They'll pay the price!

Remember, the MSM can make or break a politician!!!! I really hope they have forgotten that!

[punpirate]

4. They spent all last week...

... blaming the victim, so they might as well go after Cooper this week (although he's not exactly the victim in this--anyone who automatically gives Karl Rove confidentiality either ought to have his head examined, or should admit complicity in spreading the White House's propaganda).

But, yeah, makes sense. They'll try to cut him down to size on two fronts--not standing up for First Amendment rights (as if the Republican Party gives a shit about those) and for writing about his testimony afterwards. Then there will be, a day or two later, some snide suggestions that he was the one that actually told Rove and that he committed perjury to protect himself.

We just have to sit back and watch it unfold.

[johnfunk]

6. They'll tar Cooper for saying he got Rove's blessing...

When it appears cooper's lawyer got Rove's shill Luskin's blessing.

Pparsing, more parsing, and parsing of the parsing -- all in the name of attacking Rove's political enemies. We want justice -- frogmarch the fat bastard NOW!

[brindis_desala]

You've pointed out the most damning indictment of the press

that they are not only willing but eager to not merely aid and abet Rove's lies but let him carry out his smears in total anonymity. None of what has befallen the United States since November 2000 could have happened without the complicity of the corporate media.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

30. None of what they're doing to discredit this story is working....

...as far as I can tell. Besides, the trump card is being held by Fitzgerald...and how far he will go before he plays it.

[KharmaTrain]

7. Each New Spin Bounces Against A Past One

Look at all the compromising statements already out there. David Brock's head must be in hyper spin. Either Valerie Plame is some evil Hillary-plant (yep, Freeper post) that ran some inside CIA job to get Bunnypants or she's a desk jockey who had a bad case of post partum depression. Sheesh.

The Fitzgerald case remains tight and focused and that's what's driving these goons wild right now. They know something bad is happening behind those closed doors and they don't know what it is, so they're already putting up "defenses" so when the shit hits the fan, hopefully one will be ready to grab like a safety net. Thing is, this time this trick won't work.

Watching Melmann this morning, I swore I was seeing Captain Queeg.

Cheers...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

26. You mean David Brooks, right?

David Brock is one of the good guys.

[KharmaTrain]

35. Brock....Media Matters

I was refering to all the lying he and his staff have had to debunk over at Media Matters over the past week. I'll bet their local pizza place is doing a lot of business.

Brooks...does he still breathe and use a writing utensil?

Cheers...

[KelleyKramer]

8. Notice they havent gone after Fitzgerald.

They've gone after Wilson and everyone else who crossed them, but in case I missed it they havent gone after Fitzgerald.

That seems curious.

When Delay was in a criminal investigation they attacked the hell out of the prosecutor.

Are they holding the Fitzgerald attack for the next round? Is there another reason?

[wli]

9. that is very, very odd, yes

I think this deserves some discussion and a search for an explanation.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

11. If he indicts: It'll be Pat "Pol Pot" Fitzgerald.

If not, it'll be "See. We told you so. Isn't Fitz the fairest chap in the land?"

In Delay's case they knew he was guilty so they went right to attacking the prosecutor.

[KelleyKramer]

12. "In Delay's case they knew he was guilty"

Yeah, and Delay is actually small fry compared to the top group we are talking about.

We know they are guilty as sin.

You make some good points, and thats their exact MO on spin when something gets to a prosecutor.

But to follow your remarks it would be to guess that they think the fix is in??

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

40. The fix is in?

:shrug:

Fitz was appointed by the ChimpCo Justice Dept. :shrug:
Otoh, Rove's picture is on the cover of Crime and Newsweak. :shrug:

It's another one of those "We'll have to wait and see" deals.

[barb162]

13. If there is an indictment they will bring out the big guns

on Fitzgerald. They will leave no stone unturned on attacking him.

[Lecky]

15. I know the republicans are stupid

...but don't you think it will look terrible for them if they start attacking Fitzgerald's character now?

[DoYouEverWonder]

19. Because he was appointed

by Ashcroft's DOJ. They couldn't attack him until he starts to get close to issuing indictments against them and then it will be too late. Plus, like Howard Dean this guy is squeaky clean and he doesn't have a tendency to yell on top of his lungs.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

27. For all intents and purposes, Fitzgerald has the powers of an....

...Independent Counsel, and does not answer to anyone. Any attempt by the NeoCons to go after Fitzgerald would be an huge mistake, and the NeoCons know it.

[bluestateguy]

10. You attack this Administration and they come after you...HARD

so you may be right.

[Skittles]

14. prediction: it is gonna fall flat

remember it is very, very hard defending BLOWING THE COVER OF A CIA AGENT. *VERY* hard.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

28. Bingo! And the CIA never forgets.

[ProfessorGAC]

33. The Media Hasn't Forgotten Either

The blood in the water and 41% approval ratings have finally given the media the opportunity for revenge against the media manipulations and intimidation by the hyperpolitical administration.

They have made two very powerful enemies.
The Professor

[Walt Starr]

32. I didn't say that wasn't going to happen, but I can almost quote what

Limbaugh will say:

"In a desperate attempt to keep the DEAD Karl Rove story alive, Matthew Cooper went on Meet the Press with Democratic Shill, Tim Russert, to blow more steam into the story and keep it alive. Folks, these people are rabid and they are not going to let it go! We have to pound and pound and pound. the FACT is, Wilson outted his wife HIMSELF!"

[enigmatic]

16. Let them

It's going to bomb. The cat is out of the bag, and all that's left for them right now is deciding who's going to be sacrificed first.

[jsamuel]

17. Freepers have already started going after his wife

They must have no shame.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

29. Going after Plame is going to make the Freepers look worse than they....

...already do...and that's quite feat.

[Walt Starr]

18. Kick

for the Monday Morning crowd...

:kick:

[H2O Man]

20. Yep!

The neocon/extreme right machine is going to start increasing the viciousness of the attacks in general, and on Matt Cooper specifically. I could see a level of anxiety in his face when he talked to Tim Russert yesterday that indicated to me that he realizes he has crossed powerful people. That the "other sources" he hinted at are feeling the need to utterly destroy him would seem a good bet.

[leftchick]

21. Winger Whack job on C-Span this AM said

That the person they should be looking at is Matt Cooper's wife Maggie "the mouth"! She is the one who has "soiled" Karl Rove!

:rofl:

[Swamp Rat]

23. What the?!?

From where was the caller?... so I never accidentally drink their water. :scared:

[Walt Starr]

41. Dayum, didn't take the moonbats long! n/t

[Shakespeare]

44. geez, they can't even get the name right....

It's MANDY, not "Maggie." As in Mandy Grunwald, trusted Clinton advisor.

[KharmaTrain]

22. 12 Hours Later And You're Right On Time, Walt...

Here's the thread I posted about that WJ caller referenced above:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4127317

I saw this meme being worked on in Freeperland last night. Sure enough, already two calls on WJ this morning, and I suspect I'll be hearing it in my car on hate radio a little later.

This gets so easy to predict.

[Walt Starr]

31. I knew what would happen as soon as I read the bits from the TIME article

IT was so obvious what would happen.

Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity will be running three hour cooper HATE-Fests today.

[KharmaTrain]

34. OK...What's The Dirt On Fitzgerald?

That's gotta be already in the can as well.

Watching Mehlmann squirm yesterday on MTP when Timmy asked him if he'd support Fitzgerald if an indictment came down was precious. Podesta next to him couldn't believe he couldn't say a simple "yes". So you know the slime's already set.

I'm still looking to see if I find that first meme surfacing...kinda like when looking for the first storm clouds brewing in Hurricane alley.

Cheers!

[Walt Starr]

36. Fitzgerald is going to be a hard man to break

He's the man who got Gotti.

He successfully prosecuted the 1993 WTC bombers.

He broke up the Licenses for Bribes scandal in Illinois.

He's currently breaking up the cronieism and corruption in the Daley machine.

This man is so clean he squeaks when he walks.

[KharmaTrain]

38. What's That From Stopping Them

We'll soon get to see his handiwork on the Ryan mess here in Chicago. Peter Fitzgerald has to be laughing his butt off right now.

This Grunwald thing was amusing since it was so obvious for so long. You never heard her name mentioned while Cooper kept his yap shut. When he finally talks, boom, there it is.

As the old saying goes, "you coulda seen that coming up Broadway".

But still...I'm certain they'll start some rumor floating...or try even jury nulification. We're in for some interesting times indeed.

[SpiralHawk]

24. Time for the Dems to step up to the plate

The ultimate WORD will come down from the prosecutor, and that may be months away. But the Dems had best stand strong in the meantime, and keep the focus where it belongs: on the treasonous CREEPS who are are the core of BushCo.

[mopaul]

37. tell the truth, get attacked, tell big lies, get a medal of freedom

[Walt Starr]

39. Now be fair, not every liar in this administration gets a medal of freedom

One became Secretary of State, another became Attorney General, and yet another got nominated to be Ambassador to the U.N.!

[Walt Starr]

42. From what I understand, Limbaugh went after Cooper

Typical.

[dogday]

43. Not just Cooper but also the CIA

I read an article this morning where they are criticizing the CIA and saying they outed Plame.