Correction: Shrub COMMUTED Henry Lee LUKAS, Not "Pardoned" Him

[UTUSN]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4122271

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http://www.ncadp.org/news_headline_6_13_2004_compassion...
I don't think * pardoned him.
I believe with a pardon that the person is released from prison. I'm pretty sure that this Lucas fellow died in prison.

It seems that there has been some misunderstandings. According to what I could find (see the link), * actually pardoned 20 people. Those were not capital offenses. What * did in the Lukas case was commute the sentence.

This info is from the National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty website.



Point Smoothly Taken. I Learn at DU Every Day

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/01/308911.shtml
Bush & MKULTRA Satanic killer who Bush pardoned while Governor, BOTH in same cult in '80s

Bush covers up likely MK-ULTRA issues. Plus, Bush himself has been associated with mass murder Satan cult rings at Brownsville, Texas. And this connects him to the very person he "pardoned" while governor of Texas--Henry Lee Lucas, for ritualized killings and cannibalism. They both were associated with Brownsville, TX, cults.

Bush's Wild Years: in the 1980s, Bush and serial killer Henry Lee Lucas in TX Satan cult, George W. Bush investigated for six months for mass murder of 17 people who were skinned in the cult--until VP Poppy Bush told then to drop the case.

"Bush, telling reporters and critics to 'stick to the issues that matter', Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush declined to answer questions Monday concerning his alleged involvement in a 1984 Brownsville, TX, mass murder, in which 17 people were ritualistically murdered and skinned. 'I will not stoop to discussing that,' said Bush....

Bush, the son of a billioniare, was strangely living in the most impoverished place in America, Brownsville. Bush was living nearby to and also inside the headquarters of a Satanic Cult of which he was a member. Bush disappeared for three days during which ALL of the other of his fellow Cult Members were slaughtered. After he reappeared he could not explain where he had been.

***The local prosecutor continued to pursue Bush, sole Cult survivor, on mass murder charges for six months thereafter, heavily pressured by Daddy Bush to stop the investigation.

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[Minstrel Boy]

1. Henry, Portrait of a Bush Supporter

Posted this to my blog a few months ago:

Henry, Portrait of a Bush Supporter

The man who mocked Karla Faye Tucker sure picked his moments.

As Governor of Texas, George W Bush notched 152 - count -em! - confirmed kills. A personal best, until 9/11. His giddy impression of Tucker (#58) even got under the skin of scary Republican presidential candidate Gary Bauer, who said "I think it is nothing short of unbelievable that the governor of a major state running for president thought it was acceptable to mock a woman he decided to put to death."

Bush did not care if the condemned were mentally ill or had been a juvenile offender. He did not hesitate to execute Betty Lou Beets, a great-grandmother convicted of killing her chronically abusive partner. ("What my husband started, Texas will finish," she said.) There was no exception to Bush's repeated position that "he would only consider granting clemency in cases of actual innocence or where the courts have failed to provide a thorough review on appeal."

Well, one teeny exception: Henry Lee Lucas.

"Here's looking at you, Mr Bush"


Remember Henry? He confessed to up to 600 murders, though he may have been guilty for as "few" as six, while most accounts place the likely number at several dozen. Henry was the recipient of Governor Bush's sole pardon, because the particular murder for which he was sentenced was found to be unsupported by evidence. Less than two weeks before Lucas was to be executed, Bush intervened, and asked his appointed parole board to review Henry's case. And "eight days later the Board uncharacteristically recommended that Henry's execution not take place."

The funny-strange thing is, many of the 152 who were not fortunate enough to receive the Governor's favour also had evidence supporting their claims of innocence. But Lucas did not just receive a temporary stay while his case was reviewed, but a full clemency.

Was there more to Lucas than the lone, random psychopath?

From David McGowan's Programmed to Kill:

"Lucas claimed that he was trained by a nationwide satanic cult in a mobile paramilitary training camp in the Florida Everglades.... Henry further claimed the leaders of the camp were so impressed with his handling of a knife that he was allowed to serve as an instructor. Following his training, Henry claimed that he served the cult in various ways, including as a contract killer and as an abductor of children, whom he delivered to a ranch in Mexico near Juarez. Once there, they were used in the production of child pornography and for ritual sacrifices. Henry has said that this cult's operations were based in Texas, and included trafficking in children and drugs, among other illegal pursuits.

"What Henry claimed, essentially, is that what appeared to be the random work of a serial killer was in fact a planned series of crimes often committed for specific purposes...."

Before his rampage, Lucas had spent 10 years in prison for murdering his mother, nearly half that time in a psychiatric ward, where he received "intensive drug and electroshock treatments." He later described it as a "nightmare that would not end," and complained of hearing voices in his head.

Anyone who has studied MKULTRA knows how covert mind control research was conducted in hospitals on unwitting psychiatric patients. Was Lucas one, who was then released into the service of a sheltered Satanic cult of child pornographers? It's bizarre conjecture, and we can't simply take Lucas's word for a conspiracy. Who would? Which, of course, also happens to make him a perfect subject.

Should we take Bush's word, that although "Henry Lee Lucas is unquestionably guilty of other despicable crimes...there is enough doubt about this particular crime that the state of Texas should not impose its ultimate penalty by executing him"?

[UTUSN]

2. Thanks. But LUKAS's Face Is about as Disturbing as Shrub's n/t

[Ms. K]

3. I read the article, and I understand the basics...

But can someone please translate MK-ULTRA for me? I can't seem to find a definition Googling, and it's driving me nuts.

[UTUSN]

4. I Hadn't Heard of It Before Today, But I Learn Every Day at DU

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKULTRA

Project MKULTRA
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
(Redirected from MKULTRA)
Project MKULTRA (also known as MK-ULTRA) was the code name for a CIA mind control research program lasting from the 1950s through the 1970s. It was first brought to wide public attention by the U.S. Congress (in the form of the Church Committee) and a presidential commission (known as the Rockefeller Commission) (see Revelation below) and also to the U.S. Senate.

"The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over 30 universities and institutions were involved in an 'extensive testing and experimentation' program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens 'at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign.' Several of these tests involved the administration of LSD to 'unwitting subjects in social situations.' At least one death, that of Dr. Olson, resulted from these activities. The Agency itself acknowledged that these tests made little scientific sense. The agents doing the monitoring were not qualified scientific observers."
Senator Kennedy.
U.S. SENATE, WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 3, 1977
SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE,
AND SUBCOMMITTEE ON HEALTH
AND SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH
OF THE COMMITTEE ON HUMAN RESOURCES
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[Ms. K]

6. Thank you!

Now why didn't I think of Wikipedia? Oh, don't mind me, the feeling of "duh, Ms. K, you moran" is setting in...

[prodigal_green]

5. CIA mind control experiments

and yes, MK Ultra is real. The government has even apologized for some of its excesses.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/history/e1950/mkultra/Hearing05.htm

[DemInDistress]

7. Very telling very troubling

says to me our chimp was indeed connected to that mass murder of 17 cult members.Missing for 3 days with no explanation as to whereabouts and poppy chimp squashing the investigation as v.p. says a lot to me.It's fascinating to think chimp commuted henry lee lucas wow.. i didnt know that..
thanks for the find

[wli]

8. citing sources?

If the Shrub is really this bad we're in far more serious trouble than I could have possibly imagined. Where did they get this stuff from?

[dweller]

9. they probably just carpooled on the killing sprees...

not that far of a stretch to substitute the other meaning of 'commute' and still make sense with the *moron's past history.

dp

[priller]

10. My understanding of this is much simpler:

(And btw, I have a friend who works for the TX corrections dept and handles death-row appeals)

Anyway, Lucas' sentence was commuted (not pardoned) because there were so many unresolved murder cases he had confessed to, prosecutors in TX and other states wanted him kept alive so he could testify about them. That's it.