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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:45 AM
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if i listen to another monent of Jerry Springer on AAR i will @%&*, anyone
else think he is a very Weak link in the Progressive movement??
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:46 AM
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1. I guess
Well, when you've spent that many years goading the shallow end of the gene pool to beat each other up, ya kinda lose touch ;)
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:48 AM
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4. Ya he
dont have those maral values.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:46 AM
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2. No!!!
Just because the man has a different approach, or doesn't think exactly think like you doesn't mean he isn't helping our cause.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:55 AM
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14. Springer - his ads even admit his horrible role in tv society
Specifically, allowing the show to be dictated by klein's sleaze fest is unforgiveable.

his "different approach" sucks, and he's a carpetbagging liberal who should just go assuage his guilty conscience with another $1000 hooker.

"Hey i didnt invent my TV show, I just host it"

fuck you jerry!
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:48 AM
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3. if his radio show is like his TV show, he is not a friend to democrats...
my housemate likes to watch jerry springer on TV. from what I have seen it is all fake and phoney like wrestling. it is the TV equivalent of shooting heroin in an alley behind the trash cans. Not sure that is a bonus to anybody claiming to be propressive or democrat.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:50 AM
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7. Wow.
No his radio show is absolutely nothing like his TV show.

And no, his TV show wasn't staged, at least not by him.

Your hostility to people who dont share your taste or sensability is frightening.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:50 AM
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8. If your housemates are repugs (or oblivious)....
get them to listen to Springer on the Radio
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:51 AM
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9. You obviously haven't listened to his radio show. It's LIGHTYEARS away
from the TV show.

He's taking a freeper to the woodshed right now.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:57 AM
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16. Yep. I think he's roped into the tv show right now because of contract.
I believe he wanted to run for office a couple of years ago but the producers of the show would not let him out of his contract.

He worked for Kennedy and has been a long time Democrat.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:49 AM
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5. JS is the anti-elite.
He has his finger on the pulse of middle America and speaks from that perspective.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:04 AM
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17. Color me anti-anti-elite then
He's got his fingers somewhere thats for sure... :rofl:

cough middle America, turn your head to the left, and watch some more springer!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:49 AM
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6. he's hard for me to listen to also
But he enlightens a lot of people who haven't yet been paying attention.. It drives ME nutz that he gives wingnuts as much airtime as he does, and I find his voice irritating..

BUT he is a vital, educational, link to help wake the sleeping..

(personally, I'm a Randiphile)
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:51 AM
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10. You know, I've refrained from these "Fill-in-name on AAR sucks!"
threads and have passed time after time. But, listening to Jerry again this morning just let rnc talking points go whizzing by, and then REPEATING the bullshit in ed klein's anti-Hillary screed (Jerry, it's sufficient to say that it's full of bullshit) I must agree with you. Apparently since Jerry had his show with a bunch of braindead morans, he now thinks it's okay to be a braindead moran too.

For cripes sake, AAR, get Jerry a DUer to sit silently at his side and feed him the correct goddamned rebuttals if you really don't want a co-host!

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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:06 AM
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19. Hilary is 1% lesbian according to Jerry
he said this morning, "let's say the allegations are 99% false"
Lol way to give the rightwingers an inch..

He corrected himself, and upped it to 100% the next sentence.

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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:31 AM
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33. Ugh. nt
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:52 AM
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11. O the hate..
I so hate this man.

he's a pus filled blowhard who coddles his right wingers.

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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:53 AM
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12. Oh but I thought Al Franken and Randi were the weakest.
Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 09:54 AM by K-W
Because each have had threads similar to this one.

Can we please just all get over ourselves and either listen or not listen to hosts based on our own preferences.

If nobody listens to Springer, his show will be cancelled. If it stays on, it means somebody other than you likes his show.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:56 AM
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15. YES WE MUST ALL AGREE
WE MUST ALL AGREE OR WE RISK NOT HAVING A UNIFIED FRONT.

can we just all post things I agree with? its my utopia, you all just live in it.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 09:53 AM
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13. He is the reason I switched to Stephanie Miller in the mornings
I only listen to Al Franken on AAR any more. I've even taken to listening to Edsh Limbshultz instead of Randi because I don't have to switch stations.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:12 AM
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25. Same here.
Springer is just too nice to right winger's.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:05 AM
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18. I turn off AAR when he is on.
He is a whiny moderate who has no appeal to anyone with a modicum of Liberal intelligence.

Glad I'm not the only one here who can't stand the show.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:07 AM
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20. Springer helps us more than he hurts us.
He usually makes solid arguments but struggles with being charismatic and can stumble over his words. He has a strong understanding of how government works having been a Mayor. His respect shown to those who disagree with him is refreshing and certainly brings people together. I think he gives Democrats a reputation as being much more respectful than Republicans and less partisan even when we disagree.

Springer is a good guy and I like him but he is not my favorate host my any means. He comes in near the bottom of those on Air America but he serves his purpose and helps us more than he hurts us.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:11 AM
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24. Maybe if you've never seen his TV show
"I think he gives Democrats a reputation as being much more respectful than Republicans and less partisan even when we disagree."

I agree with your assesment that he struggles with being charismatic. :D


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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:19 AM
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30. Not my fave either but
Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 10:22 AM by xxqqqzme
I think he does help more that hurt. Because of his name & show, there may B people tuning in that normally would not. If he can get them 2 listen for 10 minutes, they will hear enough 2 repeat a point they heard and maybe think and tune fux news out.

That and....now I have to stream 'Morning Sedition' in LA because of Stephanie Miller - she's OK but I like Mark 'n Mark better.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:09 AM
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21. My station carries Stephanie Miller in the morning. She's great
and funny!

Springer is on at 10 at night. I think he's too nice to the trolls that call.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:09 AM
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22. And in many AAR stations
He replaced morning sedition. A bitter bitter pill to swallow.

Jerry Springer on the Radio
Moderate milquetoast solo act, with plenty of whiney rants.

vs.

Professional Comedian + Radio Host with news, bits, comedy etc.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:37 AM
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36. morning sedition rocked
It was funny, biting, and original. I still haven't recovered from the switch to Jerry. He is the opposite. And it has nothing to do with his TV show. Many seem to think his radio show is like his TV show. I don't like either one, but his radio show is boring, and middle of the road. I have written to the station asking to bring morning sedition back.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:09 AM
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23. Today's show is a re-run, FYI. n/t
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:12 AM
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26. He sucks
The dumbest show on AAR.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:13 AM
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27. I used to listen to him.
But, I switched to Stephanie Miller. She's hilarious. Springer is good for some things, but he isn't up on the facts like he should be.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:14 AM
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28. My beef with Springer
He's boring and he's trying to appeal to the stereotype of red state Bush people.

What we need to do is energize the liberals in red states and get them to appeal to thier peers and bring them on board. We need to inspire and motivate them and get them to challenge the notion that they're state will always be red.

You aren't going to get a red state Bush voter on board thru a radio show. You use the radio show to build a network of liberal surrogates to do that job for you.

Person to person contact is the best method for political action.

AAR's goal should be to turn the idle liberal into a liberal activists doing person to person evangelism.

The biggest problem we face is defining a "ladder" of political activation....what are the steps to get someone to become a citizen activist....how do you get your feet wet in activism?
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:18 AM
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29. He is unlistenable.
Keeps saying the blivet is probably a very nice man but a bad president.

No Jerry, he's a very, very bad man (best Baboo voice) and the worst president ever.

I suppose the idea is that Jerry brings a large audience with him and he appeals to older more timid fence sitters with his calmer, more moderate accusations. I think he is uninformed, naive, and worst of all, stultifyingly BORING. He's not funny either.
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msrbly Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:27 AM
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31. Jerry is a blathering idiot
He panders to whoever will listen to him. He doesn't have his own opinions and agrees with every other caller on some point or another. I think other viewpoints are usefull but Jerry doesn't even know where he stands. He's an idiot.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:10 AM
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39. You pegged it!
I Couldn't have said it any better.



:yourock:
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 11:24 AM
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40. I disagree
Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 11:26 AM by Quixote1818
>>He panders to whoever will listen to him.

Translated to "He respects everyone who listens to him."


>>>He doesn't have his own opinions and agrees with every other caller on some point or another.

Actually he does have his own opinions and so what if he agrees with every other caller on some point or another. Bill Clinton was the master of doing that. It's called catching more flies with honey than with vinegar and keeping the conversation civil unlike what you find on Hannity or with Rush. I think it's refreshing.


>>>I think other viewpoints are useful but Jerry doesn't even know where he stands. He's an idiot.

What show do you listen to? He absolutely does know where he stands and he is by no means an idiot. He wins almost every argument he get into, makes solid points and he is on our side.

He is not my favorite by any means but Jerry Springer is no idiot. He is extremely smart, he just struggles with his charisma from time to time.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:28 AM
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32. Today's a repeat
Today they're airing a show from last week. If you ask me, THAT's AAR's weakest link. If someone is out, use a guest host. Develop future hosts!
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:39 AM
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37. Like Sam Seder filling in for Randi

Sam Seder was awesome filling in for Randi, get more folks like Sam who are smart. Topical talk radio is really useless when its from one month ago.

KQAK, the AAR affiliate in SF is run by robots, who dont ever even realize that they are running a promo for another AAR show, AT THE SAME TIME they are running commercials.. the audio mixes together often, and its totally unprofessional.

Two more strikes against them: they moved Morning Sedition to be broadcast live (3am pacific) and also have Big Eddy Schulz in the afternoon.

Hey AAR, heres a clue about the SF market: It doesn't need moderate fence sitting, wishy washy radio talk show hosts...

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:34 AM
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34. for the billionth time
He brings big name recognition that helps Air America grow as a network. He has a place. Listen to music if you dont like him until Al comes on the air.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:46 AM
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38. Show me the Arbitron ratings
Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 10:47 AM by Moochy
Whats funny to me about the posts defending him here, and other threads where his crappy show comes up, is that I never seem to see many folks really like him.

It's as if his defenders are saying well, the white trash down the block need to be converted so I'm willing to tolerate him, or..

"different strokes for different folks" etc.

It's as if there is always some third person who is benefitting from his show. You know, for the republican kids who just happened to be spinning the radio dial randomly. :eyes:

You can't defend a show for the guy down the street if you don't like it, if it's not funny, entertaining or at least engaging... then it sucks. Don't keep giving him a free ride because of the invisible legions of right wingers AAR is supposedly converting with his show.

Show me the ARBITRON Ratings.
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Singular73 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:35 AM
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35. Springer is to liberal radio as Colmes is to liberal TV.
Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 10:35 AM by Singular73
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