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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 05:16 PM
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Hey, I'm in an arguement with a reactionary on another forum about Andy
And he is insisting on what he calls "credible sources"(MSM)on the story of the harassment and stalking of Andy during his health crisis.

Can anybody point me to coverage that CNN, the other TV networks, or any conservative paper on the story?

(anybody wanting to know where I'm having this arguement can send me a private message and I'll tell them the site and the forum.)

I could use some help here.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 05:20 PM
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1. Why bother?
If somebody is an idiot you will not change their mind.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 05:20 PM
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2. I can't help you but will kick this for the later folks who might know mor
:kick:
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 05:23 PM
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3. Just give up.
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 05:24 PM by brainshrub
Conservatives are the kind of people who ignore CAT Scans, government memos, history, science and sworn expert testimony. You can't have an intelligent conversation with people who refuse to believe their own eyes.

If he wants evidence of how Andy was treated, have him run a Google search. For a more effective means to communicate to your conservative friend: Go dig a hole in your backyard and scream into it. (It has the same effect.)

ON EDIT: Here's a relatively mainstream link if you insist on continuing the conversation:

http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0528/050713_news_andy.php
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 05:23 PM
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4. I dunno if this is considered MSM......
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 05:29 PM
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5. another seattle paper
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 05:35 PM
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6. what "credible" sources does he have?
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 05:37 PM by noiretblu
the scamdy folks' poisionous innuendos? what those folks still don't get is: the burden of proof is on THEM. they are the ones who challenged the facts...and they are the ones who made the snide insinuations and baseless accusations...all without a single shred of evidence.
as others have mentioned: why bother trying to prove something to people who have no credibility whatsoever?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 05:36 PM
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7. Andy would prefer you spend your energy on other activities.
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 05:38 PM by Just Me
There are folks taking care of the legal repercussions of stalkers.

GO GET DIEBOLD!!! Demand that your state reprepresentatives enact legislation requiring a paper ballot. Arrange organized opposition to Diebold contracts. Educate others about how to make their vote count via early voting or other alternatives.

Don't bother with assholes.

On edit: the next time you do an OP with Andy's name in it, let it be, "Andy inspired to advance voters' interests"!!! If you value Andy,...do that!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 05:38 PM
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8. Credible sources? That's a riot.
Ask him to point you to credible sources that can verify he has a brain.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 05:44 PM
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9. You're right. It just sickened me that he wouldn't accept the truth
about something as simple and straightforward as this.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:35 PM
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11. This scum doesn't want answers.
They want to upset everyone as much as possible.

Disappoint their depraved @sses.
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 05:56 PM
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10. I attended Andy's funeral. Have him give you his phone number
and I will call him. If he won't, tell him to go to hell. Best, Ida
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 06:39 PM
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12. Don't even dignify their hate by bothering. If you want to honor
Andy, work on election reform.

Start a local push for early/mail=in voting to defeat the voting machines.

Write an LTTE.

Trolls are everywhere, and they grow if you feed them. Ignore them, and they are defeated.
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