MWO: CNN/Tucker lies about Clark statement and repeats Drudge lie

[papau]

http://www.mediawhoresonline.com/

"Tucker Lies to Crossfire Audience
States Clark Comments Referred to "George W. Bush"
Tucker Carlson, Crossfire (9/26):

CARLSON: General Wesley Clark gave a speech in Arkansas to a Republican group in which he came out for Ronald Reagan, attacked Old Europe, and then said this, and I'm quoting now, this is about president George W. Bush: "And President George Bush had the courage and the vision...And we will always be grateful to President George Bush for that tremendous leadership and statesmanship." He goes on but I don't want to torture you. Can he now claim to be a partisan Democrat with any kind of credibility?

CNN showed a graphic of the quote as Tucker read it, with ellipsis. When the same quote with the same redaction was published at the Drudge Report yesterday, MWO wondered what had been omitted, and suggested it was probably information that would prove Clark was referring to Poppy, not the Unelected Fraud.

Not surprisingly, that did turn out to be the case. Tucker Carlson told a bald-faced lie to CNN's audience - making a point to say "this is about George W. Bush" before reading the quote that contained the name of "George Bush" twice.

Here is the entire quote:
We couldn't quite believe it. I mean Desert Storm was wonderful; we whipped Saddam Hussein and all that sort of thing. But the Cold War was over, the Berlin Wall was down. And President George Bush had the courage and the vision to push our European allies to take the risk to tell the Russians to leave, and to set up the conditions so all of Germany and later many nations of Eastern Europe could become part of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, part of the West with us. And we will always be grateful to President George Bush for that tremendous leadership and statesmanship.

Full Text of Speech http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110004065
(Was this information also deliberately left out when Republicans sent out this information to reporters before yesterday's debate?)"

[qanda]

1. Kick...

It should at least be seen by as many people who saw the Drudge Report.

[JasonBerry]

2. It doesn't matter WHICH Bush!

Would you accept any of the other candidates PRAISING Cheney, PRAISING Rumsfeld and Rice? PRAISING - whichever - Bush? NO! We cannot allow this wolf in sheep's clothing, Wesley Clark, to get away with it either. Too many are so accepting of his "conversion."

Please.

[bicentennial_baby]

3. Are you

just hitting every Clark thread tonight Jason?

[JasonBerry]

5. Yes indeed....

I am hitting them all tonight as I am shocked that Wesley Clark is getting away with presenting himself as someone he is NOT. I think there are good Democrats, even good PROGRESSIVE Democrats that are being sold a truck load of .....jello mix.....by this man. I can only hope that the truth will surface (as if it hasn't already) in a way that will help many Clark supporters to see that he IS a wolf in sheep's clothing. Sorry if I am a nuisance tonight but not near the nuisance Clark is becoming as he lies his way across America. I know it's harsh - but damnit - it's the truth!

[eileen_d]

6. OK, is Clark lying

or is Drudge lying? Hmmmm.... my jury's still out.

[carpetbagger]

7. If your jury's out re:Drudge after all these years, read the speech

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110004065

He praises Bush I for helping to prod central Europe towards the west, and for, well, not fighting the war in Iraq the way his son would two years later. While I personally believe that Margaret Thatcher was the spine behind both of those efforts, Bush could have screwed the situation up significantly (and I still hold his State Department hacks responsible for not sending a sufficient warning to Hussein about invading Kuwait).

Matt Drudge is an outlet for right wing rumours. Right now, the selected target is Wes Clark. First it was Clinton, then Gore, then Daschle, then Pelosi, then Hillary Clinton (again), then some tripe about actors (actually, a lot of tripe), then Kerry, then Gore, now Clark. Remember Ken Lay sleeping in the Clinton White House? Remember Dean wanting McAuliffe out? Pryor's illegal immigrant? "Gore lies"?

In my mind, Drudge long ago lost his credibility. Sure, he's the place to go to for the latest rumours about democrats and other people on the Rush Limpbaugh (as a Freudian slip, this is how I actually typed in his name) Hit List. But many, if not most, of his "scoops" turn out to be untrue entirely or selectively taking things out of context.

[eileen_d]

12. Yeah, thanks for the link

I saw it in another thread a few screens back and posted it on my blog. I will read it tomorrow. Basically I was being sarcastic in comparing Drudge's credibility to Clark's - it's like comparing... uh... an untrustworty hack to another guy. (Too tired to be clever.)

[neverforget]

8. A certain Senator broke from the Repugs in 2001 and joined the

Dem caucus. He voted for Repugs before. Should we kick him out too? Or must all Democrats be lifelong Democrats in order to be part of the party?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

9. actually

on edit: actually, I thought he turned independent, and did not actually join the Democratic caucus, but just votes with it. Do I have it right?

[neverforget]

13. Correct. But the point being he saw the light and jumped ship

[Jim Sagle]

17. He's not running for President.

[Hamlette]

10. Same kind of crap we hate when the GOP does it

I'm pissed the GOP won't give Clinton credit for the economy and 8 years of peace. We should be honest enough to give them credit when they do something right. The first Gulf War was right.

Give it a rest. This place sounds more and more like Freeperland every day.

[Skittles]

4. there is a big difference

between what a person in uniform says and what that same person can say as a civilian.

[kentuck]

11. Hmmm-m-m-m-m....

That's interesting...

[Katie]

14. Loved Clark's Response: "youthful Indiscretions.”

Remember how Hyde used that for his adultery in his 40's & bush for his drunken driving arrests in his 30's? Seems like Clark threw that right back in their faces.

I see no reason why a person can't change their mind, if they feel a party or their leaders have not lived up to their promises. I think it encourages others to do the same. Thats why I think clark is a plus, and a welcome addition to the democrats.

*Clark's quote taken from this article: "Clark tried to laugh off the controversy while campaigning Friday in New Hampshire, saying, “Everyone’s entitled to a few youthful indiscretions.”
Clark told a handful of diners at the Merrimack Restaurant in downtown Manchester that he was “a real Democrat, a new Democrat,” and that he could broaden the party’s appeal.
“I’m going to bring a lot of new people into this party, and together we’re going to move forward,” he said.

http://msnbc.com/news/971672.asp

[Katie]

15. Democrats didnt complain when Jeffords switched

did they? A republican turned independant,that votes with the democrats. A plus.

[Pastiche423]

16. It's a HUGE difference

between changing from repug to Independent and changing from repug to Dem.

Where the hell are all of the real Democrats on this board? Where did they go?

Are these "new democrats" that are backing a pretend dem?

Hellfire! It's cool to back someone that voted for Nixon, Reagan - TWICE and Poppy! It's cool to back someone that likes the PNACers and would like to work w/them again! It's cool to back someone that played "coy" for months on end, finally decides he's a democrat, two weeks before he announces he's going to run on the democratic ticket, doesn't prepare his stances on important issues and STILL hasn't decided where the hell he stands. Yep, that's a great way to get our country back. :eyes:

Does anyone really believe all of the millions of people that protested the invasion are going to vote for the Perfumed Prince that can't decide one day to the next if he would have voted for the invasion?

[phegger]

18. I assume you know...

..that Col. Hackworth retracted his criticism of Clark and the "Perfumed Prince" line after interviewing him for ??.

Just wondering: do you have any interest in seeing (or have you seen) the broadcast of Clark's talk in NH today? I'd really be curious to know if it might change your opinion at all.


-ph :smoke:

[tkmorris]

19. Ya know what bothers me?

Begala was sitting RIGHT THERE, he heard what Tucker said. I assure you that TUCKER knew he was spouting bullshit but I bet he also was confident that Begala couldn't call him on it because Begala is a twittering bonehead. The man knows naught about what is really going on, he just spouts Dem talking points much like his counterparts on the right do.

It is inexcusable. Begala should have KNOWN Tucker was full of shit and called him on it. He didn't. We need better representation on talk shows such as this. I can name 30 people here on DU alone that woiuld have fried Tucker's twinkies for that bald-faced misquote. Why are our expectations of our representatives in the media so much lower?

[kiahzero]

20. Ya know what bothers me too?

The fact that I can name a bunch of DUers that would have sat back and said nothing, even though they knew it was wrong, just because it suited their ideology.

I really don't understand the hatred for Clark. The more I find out about him, the more I like him, for the most part. But it seems like every 5 minutes, another "Clark's a REPUBLICAN! Run for the hills!" thread pops up.

Jesus! I didn't think the "Dean's a MCGOVERN! Run for the hills!" was mature, and I don't understand why people are buying into this crap.

[phegger]

21. kick

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