What if the polls still favor Gore to win?

[Must_B_Free]

*sigh*

- He's not running
- He doesn't want to run
- He's a loser
- He's a liar
- He's boring

He also polls highest preference for president every time the question is posed.

I've been fraught with a battle ground of feelings about new and unknown candidates. Now is the time for us to be attacking each other, to meddle our choices against criticism. None of the candidates "who can win" are ideal for me... I feel like I'm being asked to settle for a Reagan over a Hitler.

And the man who can best do the job, who has shown the experience and success is sitting on the sidelines.

What if Al Gore is America's choice? What if Al Gore still polling highest? Will a draft in order?

I contend that America loves the good guy to come from behind and clobber the bad guy to save the day.

If the polls say it takes drafting Gore to have the best shot at winning, will you support Al Gore as your candidate?

[Birthmark]

1. What if Jesus runs?

Would you vote for Jesus or Gore?

[CarlBallard]

2. Well

Jesus is the lord and savior, but he's never won the popular vote.

[Stuckinthebush]

3. Jesus saves

So that would help the deficit.

;)

[eileen_d]

4. Would Jesus vote for Gore?

Would Jesus lead in the polls?
Would Jesus wear a Rolex on his televiiiisiiooooon shooowww...

[DieboldMustDie]

8. Foreign born...

sorry ;)

[Stuckinthebush]

5. Al said that he wasn't running

Even after he saw the Draft Gore momentum last Spring.

We have a finite amount of engergy. Let's focus on those who said they were running, and not on a guy who said he was not going to run.

[fofer]

6. Unfortunately, I don't think it matters what the polls say.

I'm still sickened by the travesty that was "Election" 2000, and I would love to see Gore in the White House. BUT, I think that if he did decide to run, the Republican smear machine, aided by the press, would once again swing efficiently into action and systematically ruin his chances. I think it sucks, but I'm almost positive that's what would happen.

[Must_B_Free]

10. And how do you suppose that this won't happen to any candidate

that runs against Bush?

And again, with Gore, we have seen all these old lines to be lies?

How effective will they be in the face of "lockbox", desecration of Bill of rights, bankrupting of the nation, murderous fraudulent campaign of imperialism?

[fofer]

18. I just think they have more "ammo," so to speak. . .

. . .against Gore, because they've had more time to develop it. And they seem to have a personal beef against him too because of his ties to Clinton, who of course they feel is to blame for everything (will that witch hunt EVER end, do you think?). Also, the press, for whatever reason, has it in for Gore. I don't understand it, but there's a clear bias there.

But who knows, I could be wrong. I would love to be wrong about this. I think that Gore has earned the White House. I just think the Republicans will do whatever it takes to keep him out of there, as they already showed last time in Florida. Maybe I'm giving the Republican machine too much credit, though. And of course if Gore decided to run I would support him wholeheartedly, no question.

[seventhson]

7. I still want Al Gore to take his rightful seat and US to have our rightful

President.

And I still support a draft of Gore.

But I do not see it happening


Therefore:


Dea/Edwards/Kucinich/Braun/Lieberman/Sharpton


But NOT Clark or Kerry


Lieberman today stated that Clark was a REPUBLICAN FUNDRAISER just a short while ago. Is that true. It is linked at Drudge right now.

[Closer]

9. I agree with you Seventhson

Except you should take Lieberman off your list and put him down there with Clark and Kerry.

Poor Gore. I feel so bad for him, and I'd like to see him in some high position again soon. He got royaly screwed.

I don't think he will run, though one can never be too sure. If he doesn't run, will he endorse? Or will he wait until the nominee is picked?

[Solomon]

12. Why care about what he was a short time ago?

So what. Don't give him the nomination. But him getting the exposure, gives the party gravitas, because now the charge that democrats are weak, is refuted with evidence.

The masses are moved by symbols. A prominent general, declaring as a democratic candidate is a symbol to a lot of people. It gives the party gravitas.

[maha]

11. No.

I respect Gore, but at this point the polls are just an indication of name recognition.

We've got a bunch of good candidates, and Bush is sinking fast. We're in good shape for 2004 without Gore.

[Must_B_Free]

13. ABB =

Anybody But Bush could win this election!

[BiggJawn]

14. Then the polls would be wrong.

Al's not running.

This pisses me off almost as much as this "Hillary WILL run!" NOISE.
Yeah, NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.NOISE.

You spend brain calories on this "What if Al scores high in the polls" Masturbation or spend your time jacking your brain off over Hillary, that's just that much less energy you've got left for Job One, getting rid of the nasty Shrub that's taken root in Washington.

Shit, why not spend your time wondeing "What if FDR rose from the grave and told us he was gonna bring us a new 'New Deal'?"

A web forum for students of WWII history had to deal with a lot of threads like "what if Hitler had a Teleporter, and was able to bring in Klingons from the futre. would Curchill had surrendered?" and other like bullshit.The moderator/list owner banned all such garbage.

Al is not running. Hillary is not running.

Deal With It.

Sorry to be so harsh, but I think an intervention is called for. Get back to Reality.

[Must_B_Free]

15. So are you saying you would rather lose to Bush than back Al Gore?

That was the question, BTW.

[BiggJawn]

20. Don't put words under my fingers, asswipe!

OK, so I enter into your escapist fantasy and put all my energy into an Al Gore presidency. I write him, I post these stupid "Should we Draft Gore?" Memes on message boards, I make my own bumper stickers (because Gore sure as shit doesn't have any) and then, on that first Tuesday in November, when Al Gore is NOT on the ballot, what then?

I'll tell you what then. I'll stay at home, mouthing some mealy-mouthed shit about "the process has been co-opted, because the 'best man' is not on the ballot, so I'm gonna 'Send a Message' and stay home"...

That's what you're gonna do.

It's just like voting for Ralph Nader. You WASTE YOUR TIME having wet dreams about Al and Hillary throwing in at the last minute, you waste valuable resources that someone who HAS put their life and bucks on the line to get your vote has expended, and Bush gets handed the keys to the Oval Office again..

Karl Rove LOVES this "Should we Draft Al" and "When will Hillary announce" bullshit. Keeps our attention off the fact that his boy is strutting around naked.

There, can I make it any MORE plainer for you?

[maha]

23. False dichotomy.

The polls mean little right now. All they reveal is name recognition.

Here's the dynamics: About a third of the electorate will vote for Bush no matter what. About a third of the electorate will vote for the Dem ticket no matter what.

It's that last third we have to win, and these are people who are not paying attention right now. Believe it or not, most of these people do not recognize the names of many of the Dem candidates -- Kucinich who? Dean who? Clueless, yes, but they vote.

My guts tell me that even though they recognize the name "Al Gore," that's not a plus. The Regime has planted a "Gore is a stiff lying loser" meme into the public consciousness that will be hard to overcome, false though it is.

My guts tell me we'll be better off with a fresh face; an outsider. This is why Dean and Clark are generating excitement -- gut instinct is telling a lot of us they have the best shot at clubbing Bush.

[QERTY]

27. You Are Forgetting That The Electorate Is Not Static

The true silent majority are the non-voters. I'm estimating that a third of them don't vote because they believe the process is corrupt and that all the candidates are co-opted shills for business. We should never forget that they CAN be mobilized by the right candidate. They are an IMMENSE reserve of power that are waiting for a breath of fresh air from our failing system. If they become energized, Shrub could be the last Repug ever to hold the presidency. Rather than veering right as the party has been doing for the past decade, perhaps a little fucking HONESTY in a candidate would do wonders. What would happen if the Dem candidate said, "If you make less than 60K a year, you will pay NO federal income tax."? Do you think they would get votes? Do you think capital flight would destroy our economy at a greater rate than it is being destroyed at present? It is about fucking time we had a class war! Believe me, in a class war, the victory of working people is a surety.
Third-wave policies and "free trade"ers are a major part of the problem, not, as the DNC seems to believe, the solution.

[Kahuna]

16. I wish he were running, but he's not.

So, I moved on.. But if he changes his mind I would welcome him with open arms. There could not be a better team for America than Gore/Clark.

[NicRic]

17. Gore/Clark !

That would definitly be the Democrat dream team ! In this time of uncalled for recalls and stolen elections ,I would not be shocked by anything .Like a sudden realazation that we want a foresure win in 2004. That would be an unbeatable combination of exprience, both economic and milatary ! Gore/Clark , I like the sound of that ! Both of Bill's buddies kicking the current theif out of office !What a hoot that would be . The best is this is one sure way the get the smirk off the idiots face !

[PATRICK]

19. If you have to say "poor Gore"

that is exactly why it can't happen. He can't or won't (or both) overcome the opposition(lunkheaded as it is in the despised DLC seatwarmers). Only Clinton is freewheeling around superior to the garbage from the bully pulpit. If Gore had been doing that and reforging the party...but no. Now everyone gets their say and the divisions will end- along with a few faded careers. And despite the injustice we do have good candidates on a par, but uniquely different than Gore.

Luckily our party has no poverty of talent nor bankruptcy as in the hijacked GOP. The polls are flattering and a sign of the realization of THE MISTAKE or THE CRIME and so Gore is still a huge symbol and should stay active. In fact, he is not a distraction or liability and is in a great position to at least exact some satisfaction.

We have a heartbreaking list of very good men who should have been President. They all got shafted from the blindside. Not getting shafted is the key to victory.

[Cheswick2.0]

21. I would drop everything I am doing to work for Gore

Not just because it is the right thing to do to heal 2000, but also because he is the best.

[Romberry]

22. The only way I can see Gore running...

...is if a deadlocked Democratic convention drafted him.

I'm a big supporter of Al Gore. I think he's the rightful President of the United States. If he ran, I'd have to think about splitting my support in terms of time and money with Howard Dean. Unfortunately, even with a ready made platform built on "Remember 2000? We were right!", I don't think Big Al is getting into the race.

I know he loves his country but he has his life back, out of the fishbowl of 24 hour security and public opinion. I can see how after years of dedicated service he might be very reluctant to get back in the ring.

[QERTY]

24. Gore Let Them Steal It!

I blame Gore (and Nader) for Bush! I like Al and I think he would have been a decent President, but he is so lacking in charisma and "likeability" that he should be relegated to supporting roles. Gore's performance in the "debates" was pathetic. How can anyone not absolutely destroy Shrub on the podium. Let's see here: AWOL, crooked financial dealings, religious fanatic, just plain stupid. Amazingly, Gore failed to call Bush on any of it effectively. The fact that the polls show Al getting a good share are an anamoly based on simple name recognition, nothing more.

[Romberry]

26. Just how do you think Gore...

..."let them steal" the election? Is that like the woman in a skirt "just asking" to be raped.

Gore did clobber Bush in two out of three debates. It wasn't even close. The third debate was like watching a heavyweight boxer pummel Pee Wee Herman. It was only the Mighty Wurlitzer playing their music into the echo chamber that was able to spin debates one and three any other way. Most people that say Bush won the debates never even watched them. They got their info from the the talking heads and the papers that were printing up RNC blast fax oppo resarch as fast as they could lay their hands on it.

As far as your "anomaly" on Gore's polls goes, perhaps you have forgotten: Gore got more votes than DimSun and now, in retrospect, a lot of voters who did vote for DimSun because they thought he would govern as a "moderate" and with "compassion" know better.

Gore didn't "let them steal" anything any more than the woman in a skirt is "just asking" to be raped. His campaign certainly had its flaws but never forget, Gore received more votes than any Democratic presidential candidate in history. Not too shabby a result, especially if the USSC had not raped democracy by stopping the FSSC's order to recount all the votes statewide.

[QERTY]

28. Who's In The Oval Office?

Gore is a weakling. Give it up. The election shouldn't even have been close. Bush can't speak English. Bush can't do math. Bush sounds drunk (and might be). Bush's stint as Texas Governor was as marked by abject failure as were his business ventures.
THE ELECTION SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN CLOSE!
Gore was so weak he couldn't beat Shrub by a decisive margin. He failed, now we are reaping the bitter harvest. Don't EVEN try to let it happen again.

[theemu]

25. "I feel like I'm being asked to settle for a Reagan over a Hitler."

Jesus fucking Christ.

I can't even respond to this besides to say it's one of the more moronic statements I've heard in weeks.