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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:24 AM
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If you read ONE post on how to fight Roberts... Read this (from Billmon)
If I were running a propaganda campaign to try to soften Judge Roberts up before his confirmation hearings, I'd probably go a hell of a lot further than Moveon. I'd call him a fat-cat corporate lawyer who made millions catering to wealthy CEOs. A Washington insider who has spent his entire adult life shuttling back and forth between K Street and Wall Street. An arrogant, out-of-touch Ivy Leaguer who probably vacations at posh resorts with other arrogant, out-of-touch Ivy Leaguers. ...

I would dig up every client that Roberts ever represented, and God help him if any have had even the slightest trouble with the criminal justice system. I'd put together ads juxtaposing pictures of him with photos of Bernie Ebbers, Dennis Kozlowski and Ken Lay, and run them in selected media markets, just below the national media's radar screen. And if Roberts has ever issued any rulings that in any way, shape or form have made it more difficult to fight crime or terrorism, some of those ads would morph him into Pedro Escobar or Osama bin Ladin.

I'd make a lot of hay out of Roberts' ruling in the infamous french fry case -- using it as a parable for an eggheaded judge who has plenty of book learning but no common sense. If the girl was African American, so much the better for targeted ads on urban radio stations.

Ditto for Roberts's ruling on the POW damage claims. I'd get some disabled Gulf War I vets to do testimonials and hold press conferences: "Saddam only destroyed my health, but Judge Roberts destroyed my faith in my country." Gulf War Veterans for Truth has a nice ring to it.

And if all this still failed to derail the nomination, then I'd hang it around Bush's neck -- as just another sign of how arrogant and out of touch this White House has become after five years in power. And I'd hang it around the neck of every Republican Senator next year: "Those crazy sons of bitches put a POW hater on the Supreme Court!"

...

I mean, it's time to wake up, guys. We've got a different rule book now -- brought to you by Karl Rove and the propaganda machine from hell. The Republicans don't use those tactics because they're sick, sadistic bastards (well, not only that). They use them because they work. And until the Dems learn to play by the same rules, they're going to get their heads handed to them, time after time after time.

That doesn't mean doing everything the Rovians do. (You never know, there may be war crimes trials in this country someday.) But it does mean abandoning any false hope that truth, justice and the American way will somehow triumph over the machine -- just because they're true and just and American. They won't.

http://billmon.org/archives/002040.html

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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:27 AM
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1. Bravo Billmon!
:applause:
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:04 PM
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13. Most important...his advise to as to the 'constitutionality' of election
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:42 PM
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15. Great point, Shelley--Thank you for the link!
Anyone involved in that (alleged)'recount', a known cohort of Ken Starr's and is on the record as saying Roe v. Wade should be overturned has GOT to go...

I wish there was a little smiley kicking someone in the butt to place here. ;)
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:28 AM
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2. When I heard he'd been a judge for only 2 years, my first thought
was, "Wow, this guy should be a cinch to beat". Given the fact that the rest of his career has been as a lobbyist and corporate sympathist, I was stunned that the "librul media" and the real Liberal media were not all over these facts.

This guy should be defeatable in a HEARTBEAT.
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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:34 AM
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7. Here's the talking points we use against Roberts
(1) He has only 2 years experience - and ZERO criminal justice experience.

(2) He's anti-POWs - he wouldn't let them sue Iraq after Gulf War I.

(3) He let a 12-year-old girl be arrested, handcuffed, fingerprinted and held for 3 hours by the police - for eating a single french fry in a subway station.

(4) He loves Operation Rescue - the lunatics who line up outside abortion clinics to harass the women going in.

http://billmon.org/archives/002039.html
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 11:21 AM
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10. He was a paid lobbyist for Bush
He helped with the legal machinations in Florida 2000.

Gee, do you think he might be a little partisan?
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the_spectator Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:30 AM
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3. I'd ask how he was able to "adopt" two whiter-than-white kiddies
out of Latin America, for heaven's sake, without major graft/power plays, etc. or something similarly wrong, shocking, and SCANDAL-worthy!
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 05:46 PM
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16. With so many children of color that need homes,
I never understand why they ALWAYS want the 'whiter-than-white kiddies' with confirmed blond hair and blue eyes.

:eyes:

I know that people like this may in theory offer the opportunity and priviledge to a child in need. But realistically, I know that they would never be able to relate to a child of color on an appropriate and loving basis...so I guess it's just as well they never do.

Just one of those odd ironies that puzzles and pisses me off (in a way)...

:banghead:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:30 AM
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4. He's as apple pie as Enron
and he's got the history and credentials to prove it.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:30 AM
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5. And Iran/Contra too
Yep, another Bush corporate crony. I posted that last night.

He was also connected to some of the Iran/Contra people.

AND he upheld the right of the Operation Rescue people to blockade abortion clinics, despite all the bombings and arson that was going on. He helped create an environment where a terrorist like Eric Rudolph could exist.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:42 AM
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8. The Iran/Contra connection is incorrect...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:48 AM
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9. Ah, thanks, good to know n/t
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:34 AM
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6. good ideas, try to bubble them upward somehow
I sure as heck don't know how to.
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 11:32 AM
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11. He's right of course
Democrats should be paying him to give them advice.

If the GOP wants to play by Rove Rules then by God that's how we should play.

If it gets to be too much for them maybe eventually both sides can come to terms on a cease fire and we can try the "truth, justice and American way" approach - but we're not going to achieve that by ceasing fire unilaterally.

The only thing that will ever stop them is mutually assured destruction, just like during the cold war.
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chemp Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:58 PM
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12. bookmarked for later inspection.
good stuff!!!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:12 PM
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14. Make the bastard think Bork got off easy!
:grr:
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Polemicist Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 06:50 PM
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17. We need to know if Roberts is Opus Dei...
DU research department has some work to do. Check charitible donations for Opus Dei charities. Check where kids go to day care, is it operated by Opus Dei. Check where he attends church, same reason.

If he's Opus Dei, he's for sure anti-choice. His answers in the Senate won't even matter. Remember, Antonin Scalia is Opus Dei, as are a huge number of prominant DC ultra conservatives.
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