Friends are saying Roberts is really a liberal - a Souter....

[kentuck]

We all know that the right-wing hasn't slept well since Poppy nominated David Souter, a little known judge from the NorthEast. And now, with so little known about the present nominee, there is that possibility once again. Now, my friends may have told me this just to freak out the right-wingers and plant some doubts in their mind, but I cannot say for sure. :) He is probably as right-wing as Scalia or Thomas but we don't know. But, they don't either. They only can trust Dubya again. Surely they won't buy a pig in a poke?

[bryant69]

1. Both Ann Coulter and Young Ben Shapiro

have articles today about how they don't trust Roberts, and they wish Bush had picked someone more cut and dried.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Salviati]

3. Yeah, but why should we trust anything that creeps out of their mouths...

[bryant69]

7. I doin't really understand the question

Both are liars about facts, but on giving their opinion, I think they lack the wit to try reverse psychology.

If they say they don't like Roberts, I'd tend to believe they don't like Roberts.

Bryant

[Salviati]

17. That may be true...

but the enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. I guess all I'm saying is that even though these pieces of human waste don't like him, that doesn't mean that he's good, or even palatable. IMO, "look, this horrible right wing shill doesn't approve of X" isn't really a valid argument for X.

(to get kind of abstract here: )

X should ideally always be judged on it's own merits and weaknesses, and not by what your friends and foes say about it. Granted, one doesn't always have the time to look into everything oneself, and so somebodies word has to be trusted. In that case, you should always lend more credence to the word of your allies, in that they are likely judging X by criteria similar to yours, whereas an opponent may be judging X by a completely different set of criteria, so that their judgment doesn't tell you anything useful about how X would be judged under your criteria.

[bryant69]

22. Oh I agree with that

Oh I hope nobody takes it that way; Roberts is A very troubling nominee, in my opinon.

On the other hand there is some gratification in watching these extremists slam into him because it is bad for the Republican party and conservative movement. But we shouldn't let that determine our strategy.

[annabanana]

24. What... They don't get the "talking points"?

are their faxes on the blink?

[Cocoa]

2. I've heard he's an anti-Souter

a reliable conservative, with an emphasis on reliable.

[kentuck]

6. Hmmm..mm...

Well, just as I was attempting to plant the seeds of doubt with the Bush supporters. In my feeble attempt to divide the opposition, I am corrected. I am such a lousy propagandist. :)

[Cocoa]

12. oops

I guess I said too much. :dunce:

[iamjoy]

4. If Roberts Is A Liberal

our nation is really in trouble. I hate to see how those who call the man like Roberts (against environmental regulations, against privacy and women's choice, against regulations meant to prevent discrimination) define a Conservative.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

5. Since SpongeDob gave his 'blessing' to this nominee

I'm sure the higher ups have given him the assurances he wants that this guy will be anti-choice. He's been vetted and approved by Dr Dobson...that's all I need to know.

[Bleacher Creature]

8. I really believe that Man Coulter's criticisms are staged.

Either to make us think he might be ok, or to endear herself with the craziest of the crazies -- i.e. the Roy Moore crowd. In any event, note that people like Dobson support him -- which is all I need to know.

[NewJeffCT]

11. agreed - Coulter just helps the RW debate

Coulter & Free Republic rant & rave about the nominee, so when radical clerics like Dobson & Falwell give their blessing, they look more reasonable.

[bushisanidiot]

9. "friends"? as in "fox and friends"

it's really insulting that the repukes think we're really THAT stupid..

Roberts is an extreme right wing hatchet man. say goodbye to the constitution, people.. he's going to help shred it. there's no other reason AWOL Bush would nominate him.

[SammyWinstonJack]

16. Totally agree. n/t

[sandnsea]

10. He's a Conservative

capital C. He may not be a Roy Moore conservative, but that doesn't mean he doesn't agree with Roy Moore on every issue. He's just more subtle about it. People can get mad, but honestly, that family "gathering" told me everything I need to know about Roberts.

[bunny planet]

13. His wife is supposedly rabidly anti-choice. That doesn't bode

well for his being another Souter.

[dogday]

14. This guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing

<snip>

Yet those who know Roberts say he, unlike Souter, is a reliable conservative who can be counted on to undermine if not immediately overturn liberal landmarks like abortion rights and affirmative action. Indicators of his true stripes cited by friends include: clerking for Rehnquist, membership in the Federalist Society, laboring in the Ronald Reagan White House counsel's office and at the Justice Department into the Bush years, working with Kenneth Starr among others, and even his lunchtime conversations at Hogan & Hartson. "He is as conservative as you can get," one friend puts it. In short, Roberts may combine the stealth appeal of Souter with the unwavering ideology of Scalia and Thomas.

</snip>


http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1108389946956

[DistressedAmerican]

18. Yep! Shout It From The Rooftops!

That is something we need to repeat over and over again!

[dogday]

19. Very Good Graphic-Straight To The Point

If you read what I wrote above, you can see exactly where this Judge is going. He is just right of Frist I think....

[DistressedAmerican]

21. There Is Nice Shot Of The Two Of Them Shaking Hands Floating Around This

morning. These guys are peas in a pod. We need to like the two men in the public mind. Many, many Americans Know Frist's extremism. Let's paint Roberts with some of his reputation. That should be highly effective.

Of course OUR leadership is lining up around the block to kiss his feet (not the original expression I was going to use. But, I'd hate this to turn into a sex post).

Fuck them both with First's well known ugly history.

[annabanana]

25. hee hee.. I DO love you DA.. . . . . .n/t

[Avalux]

15. Make them read this then:

As deputy solicitor general for George Bush Senior, Roberts presented two troubling briefs on matters having to do with abortion. In 1991, he served up the government’s case before the Supreme Court in Rust v. Sullivan, arguing for the right to restrict the speech rights of family-planning organizations that receive public funding. The result of that decision upheld a gag rule on such organizations, denying them the right to mention abortion as one alternative to continuing a pregnancy. Note that we’re not talking here about whether the organization in question can administer an abortion; we’re talking about talk, or the mandatory lack thereof.

The full range of lawful options open to a pregnant woman is a thing of which one must not speak if federal dollars are involved. (Note that it’s perfectly fine to impose with federal dollars, via the current president’s “faith-based initiatives,” a theological balm for a troubled soul.)

If Roberts had merely addressed his brief to the government’s pro-gag-rule stance, that would have been bad enough. But his brief addressed the legality of abortion itself, writing of Roe v. Wade, the 1971 decision that struck down laws prohibiting abortion, “We continue to believe that Roe was wrongly decided and should be overruled ... . he Court’s conclusion in Roe that there is a fundamental right to an abortion ... find no support in the text, structure, or history of the Constitution.”

http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=10018

[info being]

20. He's a Corporate Lawyer. Labels like Liberal and Conservative don't apply

His job would be to protect the corporate-ruled state.

[navvet]

23. Look at who he has worked for and the casses he has

handled. His whole tenor is that of a conservative albiet not a rabid one.

[applegrove]

26. Talking points. And once he is confirmed then Reinqhuist retires

and then Bush nominates a conservative - before we have even seen Roberts try a case or write a decision. Then, * has two conservatives on the bench. And because they had him in mind years ago - and likely kept him away from any "hot" decisions, Democrats have been hoodwinked again.


Remember that Ann Coulter writes as she is told to write. She is propaganda. And that Roberts was heavily involved in the Florida Recount.

He is a conservative. He is a Repuke. That is it - that is all.