Bloombeg News to report Rove and Libby gave False testimony.

[YEM]

So says RawStory.


REPORT: BLOOMBERG NEWS TO REVEAL ROVE,
CHENEY AIDE GAVE FALSE TESTIMONY TO
SPECIAL PROSECUTOR... DEVELOPING...

[babylonsister]

1. CBS just reported that perjury may be one of the

charges filed against these clowns. Sweeeeet!

[NewJeffCT]

8. hopefully it's more than just perjury

but, perjury is a start...

[BuyingThyme]

40. No need to perjure yourself unless you've done something worse.

(Or you think you can get away with it.)

WARNING: Almost everything in the news right now is being controlled by Karl Rove. Fitz apparently doesn't leak.

[writes2000]

43. "Unless you've done something worse"....EXACTLY!

You may be right about the press but I think someone in the CIA is doing the major leaking.

Everyday we learn a little bit more.

The White House can't seem to kill this story. Even a Supreme Court nom won't kill it.

[BuyingThyme]

48. The CIA may have info about the crime,

but they're presumably out of the loop on the investigation.

[writes2000]

80. Good point. But who else would have it in for Karl like this?

A Democrat on the inside?

I feel like the CIA is seeting at the Bushies and plotting how they can take them out.

[BuyingThyme]

82. I think most of the information we're getting is indicative

of a limited hangout.

They're willing to paint Rove as a dirty political operative, but not as a traitor. (But he is a traitor, so it's not working.)

The next guy to be hung out is not Libby, but Cheney. (Another traitor.)

[Eloriel]

93. THAT's a great point -- or,

if you're trying to shelter and protect someone else, I suppose, and THEIR "something worse."

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

114. If perjury is being floated by Rove/Luskin...

imagine what the real crime is.

(Statement based on the parameters of your post)

[johnfunk]

41. Ahhh, the sweet smell of schadenfreude!

Rove deserves it. He's a cancer on George the Lesser's presiduncehood.

[kliljedahl]

49. "presiduncehood" LOVE IT

Just entered my lexicon.


Keith’s Barbeque Central

[0007]

77. Mencken was a wonderful man!

[blondeatlast]

69. Perjury brought the Nixon WH down. nt

[Skittles]

2. LOL

let's see how conservatives, who were so OUTRAGED about lies about a bj, react to LYING ABOUT A NATIONAL SECURITY INQUIRY.

[sickinohio]

3. No KIDDING!!

[Skittles]

13. "IT'S ALL ABOUT THE LYING !!!!"

how many f***ing times did we hear that? OMG THE HUMANITY. :D

[sendero]

30. And let's not forget..

.... "the rule of law" :)

Hey pukes, don't look now - the RULE OF LAW is coming at ya!

[Skittles]

34. OMFG!!!!!!!! THE RULE OF LAW!!!!!!!!!!!

PRICELESS! :D

[Kurovski]

37. We heard " IT'S ALL ABOUT THE LYING !!!!"

at least as many f**king times as we heard "SOMEONE WHO LIES ABOUT SEX WILL LIE ABOUT ANYTHING!!!"

Which was an insult to the intelligence of even a dumbbell such as myself.

[Booster]

5. They'll spin it that they lied about a stupid woman who was only

a desk clerk - already started, but I don't think it will fly.

[Skittles]

11. that was squashed with the SECRET news

if it was labeled SECRET, she was covert. Methinks bush inc has some 'splainin to do

[sickinohio]

14. Geez - I sure hope you're right.

That it won't fly, I mean.!!!

[blondeatlast]

72. It's already crash landed. The memo marked "S" killed its engines. nt

[FreedomAngel82]

18. It can't because of the documents

On the documents it said "S" on it for secret. Now why would a document have a big "S" on it for a desk clerk? C'mon. Use your brain. God gave it to you for a reason freepers.

[Kurovski]

58. Wait, you mean the "S" DOESN'T stand for "sandbag"?

[mike_c]

7. they're already showing how they'll react....

Spin, minimize, marginalize, and distract. A veritable lesson in hypocrisy.

[Skittles]

16. for the first time, I am not sure it is working, mike

I think people are looking at that sick little f*** rove with more scrutiny these days

[mike_c]

you may be right, but here's mike_c's scary prediction du jour....

The Bush administration will just circle the wagons and stonewall. I think they've been prepared for this-- at least subconsciously-- from the very beginning. These are people who were on the fringe until they managed to get into power in 2000. They're used to operating behind closed doors-- and in opposition to most everyone else-- and damn what anyone thinks of them. Nothing short of indictments will work, IMO-- and Bush's first response will likely be to simply fire the prosecutor. The neocon Bush cabal will make the Nixon WH look like a New England town hall model of open government. They will fortify, and simply continue running the country into the ground.

[Skittles]

38. see, I have doubts about the outcome of all this

but one thing I do know - rove cannot come out "smelling like a rose" - he is stinking to high heaven like the turd blossom he is

[Lecky]

54. I don't think the press is going to let them get away with that

Just a hunch but I think they've had enough.

The Democrats better attack them hard for this as well.

These weasels will do anything to get out of this...they know they are in deep shit.

[mike_c]

64. I believe that the press is the only hope we have...

...and that makes it hard to sleep at night. I think that congress or the courts will have to take Bush out of office, or at least make him ineffectual, but congress will only act if there is OVERWHELMING public pressure, and that depends on the press. The courts will only act if indictments are written, and that too is only likely to happen if overwhelming public pressure prevents the WH and the Justice Dept from squashing the investigations, which they WILL try to do. The press is key, IMO. Twenty-five years ago I would have had no qualms on that account. Today, our dependence on the press scares the hell out of me.

[0007]

59. Wouldn't firing Fitzgerald at this point cause an outrage that

would tank junior & his whorey crew?

[FreedomAngel82]

61. I think so too

It would also, to me, show that they really are guilty. They're in trouble either way. If the fire him they send a bad signal to the public. So they can't. I think they weren't thinking about what they were in for by hiring Fitzgerald. They probably thought he was another rightwinger who is party loyalist.

[mike_c]

66. it would on DU and in the blogosphere....

I don't know about the rest of the country-- I think it's too early. Maybe AFTER the real issue becomes Bush's lies to get us into Iraq, and people begin to more generally face the utter meaninglessness of the deaths there, and the venality of Bush's motives. But as long as it remains about Rove, I don't think the outrage would go very far-- UNLESS the press keeps up the pressure and forces the scandal to widen. Remember, a scandal of equal proportions (so far) turned out to be little more than a bump in the road for the Reagan WH.

[blondeatlast]

73. It's been tried before; the Saturday Night Massacre; which felled

Nixon and his crew.

[Pallas180]

101. In the 70's it was called "The Saturday Night Massacre" -

and it fried Nixon's arse.

You think this misadministration couldn't be that stupid as to repeat history..but they never pay any attention to history..

so we the people may be in luck.

[Eloriel]

97. Or have another terror attack

A dirty bomb, or perhaps some biochemical stew, right here in the U.S. Lives mean nothing to them, only power.

[Kurovski]

107. But then there goes their "we're safer now" argument

they've dragged out just in time to defend the PATRIOT ACT.

[Eloriel]

113. and paves the way for, "we obviously need more police powers" n/t

[Kurovski]

115. Good point Eloriel, Their talent is to make

every negative work for them.

But hopefully no matter what happens, Americans will not tolerate or forget perjury and treason.

[Kurovski]

39. Spinning and marginalizing fall under the rubric of "cover-up".

I guess we'll see if the old Watergate lesson about the cover-up being the worst part of a scandal holds true.

Certainly, lying about a hummer brought Clinton no succor.

[BuyingThyme]

44. But this is just politics.

Didn't you hear? Rove's media monsters say it's just because Wilson "is a Democrat."

[Kurovski]

51. Oh, then never mind.

:-)Great big silly me.

But seriously, wasn't Wilson a Republican? or voted for some?

[BuyingThyme]

53. He voted for the first Bush and not the second one.

It has been misreported that he voted for the Shrub.

But now we are discussing Rove's "because he's a Democrat" spin.

Rove controls us.

[Lecky]

56. You give Rove way too much credit methinks

He controls the hardcore RW zombies who will believe whatever their leaders tell them.

[BuyingThyme]

62. The whole thing last week was orchestrated by Rove.

The media picked up his talking points and closed the case; nothing to see here.

He innocently received the Plame info from a reporter and did a little innocent political work to the detriment of a "Democrat" and to the benefit of Bush Oil; nothing to see here.

This guy won't give up until the last appeal.

[Lecky]

71. ...yeah but no one is buying it

Of course the Republicans are going to make excuses for this, it's not just Rove...they are all trying desperately to make this story appear to be no big deal.

[BuyingThyme]

78. I didn't say we bought it,

I noted that we were discussing it.

[FreedomAngel82]

60. LOL

Even though he voted for Poppy in 1992. :eyes: And gave money to both Bush *and* Gore. :eyes: I haven't heard if he has disclosed his politicial affilation if he is with a party. Wouldn't it be funny if he was a republican?

[MidwestTransplant]

12. If nobody was shtupping anybody else, then why should we care?

[Kurovski]

46. But actually, who was Jeff Gannon (flesh&press whore) banging?

He had security clearance and a number of White House sleepovers.

[BuyingThyme]

57. Jeffy hasn't been popping up in this story enough.

Maybe tomorrow.

[Kurovski]

70. One can only hope.

My, but how well we follow and remember a scandal when sex is in the picture!

And GAY sex would be the Frontal-lobe's mother-lode of remembrance.

Ah, sweet, sweet human nature.

[Cha]

15. They just Blew Clinton

out of the water(White) with those charges!

[girl gone mad]

22. How about...

"These indictments exonerate and vindicate, not implicate!"

[Goldmund]

45. ROFL

I think you got it. :rofl:

[Al-CIAda]

63. I believe you have it! n/t

[Lorien]

65. "It's not about the sex-it's about the fact that he LIED"!

"It's not about the treason, it's about the fact that he LIED"!

Hmmm...that don't work so good, does it? ;-)

[tavalon]

88. Hmmmmm

Is there an intern involved? :eyes:

[NewJeffCT]

4. how will they spin that?

Librul media bias? (Wasn't Bloomberg started by the current Republican mayor of NY?)

[FreedomAngel82]

6. Oh wow!

This is big!

[brettdale]

9. kick

kick

[Cassandra]

10. Yummy!

[Ugnmoose]

17. And the drips just keep on coming

I think you can expect to see more and more damning information coming out until the fat lady sings (indictments are returned). I have said for some time that perjury is a lay down for Fitz. He is going for the big tortilla!

[sickinohio]

33. Pleez - Pleez - PLEEZ

let you be right!!! I'm praying for the day!!!

[hang a left]

108. Doesn't it seem like there is a new little tid bit almost daily?

The last couple of them coming during prime time.

[DemsUnited]

19. Hopefully just the beginning of many, many charges.

[spanone]

20. It's about LYING TO THE GRAND JURY!!!!!!!

[Bumblebee]

21. Tremendous!

[AzDar]

23. Oooooo, Rove doing the Perp Walk....I am sooooo ready!!! n/t

[Canuckistanian]

24. Impossible. I thought only Democrats perjured themselves

And false testimony? Tsk tsk tsk.... Well, color me surprised.

[Ugnmoose]

25. Here is the link from Raw Story with more information

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Report_Bloomberg_to_reveal_Rove_Libby_gave_false_te_0721.html

Bloomberg News has slotted a story alleging that senior Bush advisor Karl Rove and Vice President Dick Cheney's Chief of Staff 'Scooter' Libby provided false testimony to the special prosecutor to a Washington-based grand jury, RAW STORY has been told.

Patrick Fitzgerald, the Chicago special prosecutor appointed to investigate the outing of former covert agent Valerie Plame Wilson, may also be looking at whether other crimes -- such as perjury, obstruction of justice or leaking classified information -- were committed.

It's breaking tonight or tomorrow AM, sources say. Bloomberg has been among the head of the pack in breaking elements of the CIA leak scandal; they recently hired former Wall Street Journal editor Al Hunt.

[Bumblebee]

35. I always liked Al Hunt much more

than his wife...

[Halliburton]

26. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to know they lied

The "I learned it from journalists" defesne just doesn't pass the smell test.

[brettdale]

27. WOW!

Bloomberg News has slotted a story alleging that senior Bush advisor Karl Rove and Vice President Dick Cheney's Chief of Staff 'Scooter' Libby provided false testimony to the special prosecutor to a Washington-based grand jury, RAW STORY has been told.

Patrick Fitzgerald, the Chicago special prosecutor appointed to investigate the outing of former covert agent Valerie Plame Wilson, may also be looking at whether other crimes -- such as perjury, obstruction of justice or leaking classified information -- were committed.

It's breaking tonight or tomorrow AM, sources say. Bloomberg has been among the head of the pack in breaking elements of the CIA leak scandal; they recently hired former Wall Street Journal editor Al Hunt.

[David Zephyr]

28. Shout Hallelujah, Come On Get Happy.

They're headin' for the judgment day.

:bounce:

[sandnsea]

29. Watergate, Iran/Contra Crew Learn Nothing

It' the coverup, stupid.

Can't fucking wait until this story breaks!

:woohoo:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

31. It raises the obvious question.

What did they lie about?

Beyond the outting itself, it shows conspiracy.


ETA definition: Law. An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.

[blondeatlast]

76. Exactly how Watergate happened. A few charges of perjury and the

walls came a-tumblin' down.

Please let history repeat itself. Please.

[eleny]

32. Hamina-Hamina-Hamina "Time To Put Out The Trash"

[Skittles]

47. LOL that pic

:thumbsup:

[brettdale]

81. lol

very funny pic.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

36. tick....... tick......... tick...............

:popcorn:

[still_one]

42. WHAT DO WE TELL THE CHILDREN??????????

[Skittles]

52. HA HA, HA HA HA HA

:rofl:

[Kurovski]

83. Well, I guess we can begin by telling the children

to have adequate protection when f**cking.

Or rather, when f**cking someone over.

[still_one]

95. The best protection for democracy is to vote the bastards out in 2006

[still_one]

50. Any bets that druge will be the last one to report this if at all?

[Jackpine Radical]

74. I'll take that bet.

Ever once in a while, when they know something is inevitably about to break in MSM, Smudge will run the story a few hours ahead of the NYT or whatever to pretend that he got a scoop. Then all the sycophants can gather around & say, "See? Smudge covers bad things about the Wrong Wing too."

[still_one]

94. ok, since I don't frequent his site, I will back away from the bet

[Jackpine Radical]

112. Well, I wouldn't want it to be thought that hang out there either

But I do recall a few times when DU was all atwitter with something Smudge was carrying. Offhand I don't remember what those stories were, though.

[robertpaulsen]

55. Bookmarking. PLEASE link to Bloomberg when this breaks.

I just can't wait for the...

FROGMARCH!!! :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

[progressoid]

67. Oh you libruls don't understand

They lied to protect our freedoms...err...freedom is on the march....umm...support the Troops!

[RedSpartan]

86. It's hard work...

Hard... 9/11...Stay the course...lessons of 9/11...hard work.

[Kurovski]

87. You forgot to say that we're "worse than the terrorists."

That one never fails to elicit a laugh.

[BuyingThyme]

90. Resolve.

Yeah, they can't break our resolve.

[brettdale]

68. Has Bloomberg got the story up yet? Link?

Has Bloomberg got the story up yet? Link?

Ive seen a small item at rawstory, any MSM picking up on this yet?

[Kurovski]

109. It's up now

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/07/21/breaking-bloomberg-reporting-that-rove-libby-may-be-subject-to-perjury-charges/

[Lecky]

75. I can't wait to see how Mehlman will try to spin out of this

"This is just a smear campaign by the Democrats because Rove committed perjury...uh yeah!"

[blondeatlast]

79. WATCH THIS SPACE(Bloomberg link):

http://www.bloomberg.com/

[Kurovski]

110. direct link

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=an7SakVWGrTQ&refer=us

[ChiDem]

84. So...Isn't perjury a crime ?

Bush changed his statement from "involved" to anyone that has "committed a crime" ...would be fired.

So now Rove will be fired, or Bush will refuse to stand by his own words.

[Rosco T.]

85. see my thread "Correct me if I'm wrong..."

this is a lose/lose/lose situation.

[Kurovski]

89. Do you have a link handy?

[Kurovski]

91. Here it is

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4161702

[Pallas180]

92. [b] OBSTUCTION OF JUSTICE [/b] is what brought down that

"other" republican nazi administration

[Pallas180]

96. Mary Matalin & Karen Hughes left the WH right after this exposure -

now I wonder if Fitzgerald has talked to them?

[Kurovski]

102. I was wondering about this.

at least with Matalin, I always harbored a hunch that it might have all grown to be too much for her and she bailed out of President Cheney's employ.

As for Cobra-Woman Karen, I recall that she slithered off to Texas prior to 9/11, returning after the all-clear, or after her son's final ballet recital, or whatever.

Which raises other questions of an essentially paranoid nature.

[mmonk]

98. I wonder who's leaking this information?

[Goldmund]

100. Deep Colon

;)

[Lone_Star_Dem]

105. LOL!

:rofl:

[Eloriel]

99. So I take it someone in Fitz's office is leaking?

Or what am I missing??

[Lone_Star_Dem]

104. That's my question

How do they know this?

I guess we just have to wait until the story is released.

[H2O Man]

111. No.

It's primarily Rove's attorney. The goal is to innoculate Karl by showing that he was just trying to help the president win the war on terror .... you know, that war that democrats are too cowardly to fight. Karl was protecting you, Eloriel. You and I and all the DUers who take his noble actions for granted. While Karl was busy helping to protect you and I, a couple of the boys from the VP's office and the State Department may have stretched the rules -- Karl didn't, as he was too busy protectinmg you -- but they only did it for love of flag and country.

Karl is a dirty, low dog. And he will never accept blame for this. I've quoted Wilson numerous times, where he writes that a few of his journalist friends had told him that Rove blames Cheney and Libby for this entire episode.

Fitzgerald has no reason to leak information. His cards are all in a row, although it would be better if he files criminal contempt charges against Judith Miller. I am sure he will by October; then she faces serious time in prison.

[Halliburton]

103. Murray Waas will also have important Plame information for us

later according to his blog. Man this story has some real strong legs. But unfortunately the Russert and Whorge will cover Supreme Court and the London Terra that turned out to be a bust.

[Kurovski]

106. Well, let 'em try.

I think there is enough ill-will and outrage built up by Bushco in enough of the press to fuel this thing.

The corruption and anti-Americanism of the administration is getting harder to ignore. Defenders of treason have a tendency to look worse than fools to even the most typical of we Americans.