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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:36 PM
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I was never a huge Gray Davis fan.
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 07:38 PM by abernste
(Although I didn't dislike him the way that a lot of other Dems did).


But that guy's gotta be LAUGHING AND LAUGHING AND LAUGHING right now!!
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:40 PM
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1. Someday --hopefully soon--we will all have to have a huge
"I fucking told you so!" party.

:toast::bounce::toast::bounce::toast::bounce::toast::bounce::toast::bounce::toast:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:50 PM
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2. I doubt he is laughing
like us, he is probably saddened and dismayed at the results of the ignorance of the people. LIK SNL said, people in California must be realizing now that they elected ARNOLD to be GOVERNOR. :o
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:16 PM
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3. Yup
Schwarzenegger is truly a steaming pile as Governor. We make fun of tourists for their fascination with celebrity, then we go and elect that nitwit.

How embarrassing. :blush:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:27 PM
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4. I'm still dumbfounded that they did this...
I also didn't dislike Gray Davis. If he did something I didn't like, I let my voice be heard. But I tried to cut him some slack as I know that California has a lot of issues to be worked through and he is only human.

I didn't understand the need to villify him and to make Arnold look like some saviour of the people.

I saw through it and him. I knew he was a wolf in sheep's clothing.

I feel sorry for Gray. :(

p.s. can you tell I didn't vote for him or for the recall that put him in office? LOL.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:34 PM
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5. I still don't believe he is an actual governor , that people actually
voted for him. He can't pronounce simple words.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:55 PM
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8. Why does that surprise you?
Bush* is "President" and he can't pronounce simple words! (Of course I don't actually believe the people voted for him either.)
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:29 PM
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9. Okay I can't believe both of those guys have political positions
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 09:31 PM by barb162
I had been hoping, before Arnie got elected, that those LA Times articles on Arnie groping those women would have done him in. (naive)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:35 PM
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6. I dunno. I know Grey was lackluster and sometimes
tried too much reaching out to those who were bent on destroying him, but I liked him. I also don't think Ahhnold was elected fair and square. It's just my gut feeling but I think his friends in Washington knew how to manipulate our election system to get him in. It won't be that easy next time.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:37 PM
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7. Yeah, and we are have brown outs again this summer in California
AND IT MUST BE THE GOVERNOR'S FAULT ACCORDING TO THE IDIOT GOVERNOR'S OWN LOGIC.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:39 PM
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10. Gray Davis was a marked man from the day he LEGITIMATELY won the
Governor's election. I lived in Cali then. And no, he wasn't a particularly charismatic governor, and yes, he did spend too much time fund raising. But hey, he didn't fraternize with kenny-boy lay like ahhhnold did (before the recall, no less). Truth be told, Gray was engineered out of office so ahhhnold could be ushered into office with a minimum of muss and fuss. One of his first *official* actions: settling with the companies that actually caused the *false* energy crisis for pennies on the dollar. Thanks ahhnold.

A footnote to the above. Friends of mine lived in a four level condo on the skirts of Beverly Hills. Literally one side of the street was L.A., the other B.H. We partied one night on the roof of their condo while B.H. was blacked out because of Cali's "energy crisis." One of the most surreal things I've ever seen.
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:42 PM
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11. I voted for Davis, too. A bloodless coup removed him from office.
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 09:42 PM by gulfcoastliberal
Yes, he fucked up with the energy contracts. But he was/is a hell of a lot better than the gropenfuhrer. I moved to the gulf coast before the recall/coup.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:44 PM
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12. Watch the Enron Movie and you will get a clearer picture of what happened
I never really liked Davis. On crime issues he was just dreadful, and I tend to care about those. But this was a coup plain and simple and sadly the electorate went along with it. At least your state evidently caught on though way before the country is with Bush.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:45 PM
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13. Gray Davis is a good man, and was the legitimately elected Gov. of CA...
I had a chance to work with him a bit in an old job I had, back when he was an assemblyman in the mid-1980s. He never was Mr. Charisma, but he was a straight-ahead guy, IMO and experience.

The right wing has a thing about manipulating the results of legitimate elections, and Gray Davis fell victim to this. In the end, it was right-wing $$$$$$$ that brought down Davis. The recall wackos didn't have nearly enough signatures until the right-wing dollars came to their rescue.

Davis was accused of mismanagement, which was a load of horseshit, especially now that we know that the CA energy crisis was engineered from outside the state.

The sagging action-figure that now occupies the Governor's house is a fraud and a total right-wing puppet. I was never so disappointed with my fellow Californians as when they put this turd in office. Hopefully, they have learned their lesson, and will toss Arnold back to his Brentwood mansion in 2006. :grr:
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:50 PM
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14. OK . I was.
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 10:13 PM by senseandsensibility
I loved Gray Davis. He was a kind, gentle man. He was intelligent and self-deprecating and he did not deserve to have the office he earned ripped away from him by a groper. Was he perfect? No. But he was a good man. I met him because I was involved in the anti-recall movement. He was charming and sweet. Very early in his governorship, a reporter asked him what his hobby was, and he answered, being silly with my wife. Now, there's a nice guy for you. I saw him up close a day or two before the recall. He jetted around California nonstop, and he got the crowd going. He was and IS so mcuh better than the groper.
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