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democrat in Tallahassee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:45 PM
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Karl didn't SEE the memo, Ok. But when was it read to him and
by whom. I think some parsing is necessary here..
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:46 PM
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1. of course he saw it
he's lying, as usual.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:49 PM
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14. everything
Everything they say is a lie, yeepers, why arent people marching to the white house now.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:46 PM
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2. Ya told but it was on Air Force one there is a witness on that
plane who saw this!!!
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:47 PM
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3. No one in this administration has heard of "Due Diligence"
... Unfortunately for them, it's still required by law.
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BlueWolff Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:48 PM
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4. Karl sees everything the same time the chimp does!
He reads to the chimp and tells him what to do....He saw the memo before anyone else did? He is a super secret control freak!
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:50 PM
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5. He probably wrote the dam thing!
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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:50 PM
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6. Not PlameGate or RoveGate but....
.... "AirPlameLeak" ....

What do you think?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:52 PM
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7. Did Bandar see it? Or hear about it? Remember - the Saudis wanted
total control over info coming and going on any Saudi Jihadists. Plame was WMD. Do we have any testimony from Bandar? Or does he get to hide behind diplomatic immunity - thus stop any investigation cold. Remember Chalabi had inside info he passed on the Iran. How exactly did he get away from those charges? And why did Bush tell Crown Prince Abdullah that he had to stop the charges against Chalabi on banking fraud.

Just a big ole pile of snakes ****ing. But isn't there an element of of this story related to WMD itself?

I'm just asking? Don't know. If Bandar refuses to talk to Fitzgerald by diplomatic immunity does he get sent home?



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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:54 PM
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9. He's already on his way out, isn't he? Didn't he resign as
a diplomat? I guess if he is gone, we can't touch him or question him?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:56 PM
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10. Yes and was he not given a choice but to resign?
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 07:57 PM by applegrove
Anytime any diplomat invokes diplomatic immunity in Canada they get put on the next plane.

Just curious.
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writes2000 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:52 PM
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8. Don't Forget The Memo was Dated June 10th. It existed a whole month
before it was sent to Air Force One.

Rove may have seen it or heard about it way before July 7th/8th.

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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:01 PM
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11. Yeah, that's the ticket

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:03 PM
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12. they had it taped above the urinal in AF-1
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wiggle-room Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:38 PM
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13. But, that doesn't make sense.
nah

if rove were in the throes of orchetrating or helping orchestrate a parade of bs to justify a bs war, he would surely be on top of something that focused on that very matter. You can bet anything junior says, rove has approved. And that claim, the big claim, presented as justification for the shock and awe, well, karl would surely have seen and known all there was to know about it before he let bush say it.

He would have known about Wilson. He would have identified Wilson as a factor, probably an obstacle.karl was the conductor. karl would had have to had know about the memo.

He would have ordered such things to be found out, for both reasons That's logical

But even if you dismiss that, do you believe karl, would not be aware of, not care enough to make sure he was at least informed, and reacting to, each development in the Invade Iraq Effort, from its inception, - do you beleive he could go from such a state of ignorant bliss to to such rage against Wilson such a short time later.? "I know nothing...I'll destroy you."

Come on.

Even if he didn't see, or know the contents of, that memo at the time it was circulated, even if you buy that, once he reached the point of rage against Wilson, he sureley ordered a gathering of all known info on WIlson. That's logical, and maybe established - seems like I read something about Wilson saying the bush gang did such a thing. Anyway, even if karl hadn't seen it before then, he surely saw it then.

He's admitted to confirming VP's identity, hasn't he?
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:56 PM
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15. Fire! in a theater, Loose lips sink ships,That's what I heard. Shrubs Leg
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 08:57 PM by orpupilofnature57
acy will have Kkkarl in it, who showed or read him the memo was doing a menial job.
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