Scientists worried by riot control ray gun

[Zorbuddha]

Rat bastards
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Scientists worried by riot control ray gun


Wed Jul 20, 2:03 PM ET

LONDON (Reuters) - Scientists are questioning the safety of a Star Wars-style riot control ray gun due to be deployed in
Iraq next year.

The Active Denial System weapon, classified as "less lethal" by the
Pentagon, fires a 95-gigahertz microwave beam at rioters to cause heating and intolerable pain in less than five seconds.

The idea is people caught in the beam will rapidly try to move out of it and therefore break up the crowd.

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"What happens if someone in a crowd is unable for whatever reason to move away from the beam," asked Neil Davison, coordinator of the non-lethal weapons research project at Britain's Bradford University.
"How do you ensure that the dose doesn't cross the threshold for permanent damage? Does the weapon cut out to prevent overexposure?," he added.

The magazine said a vehicle-mounted version of the weapon named Sheriff was scheduled for service in Iraq in 2006 and that U.S. Marines and police were both working on portable versions.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050720/sc_nm/riots_dc_1

[madeline_con]

1. "... due to be deployed in Iraq next year..."

So, we're staying a while. With a brain fryer. Great. Can't wait to see this. :grr:

[DELUSIONAL]

2. and deployed in US cities --- WHEN?

I remember the National Guard murdering students at Kent State -- so this isn't a silly question.

[Zorbuddha]

5. Our prisons are full of the creatively tortured.

America is not immune from sadistic authority. Taser abuse is already through the roof.

[unhappycamper]

21. Full prisons? No problem.

:tinfoilhat:-time, read up on Army Regulation AR210-35, which was updated on January 14, 2005. The title is "Civilian Inmate Labor Program." You can find little gems on every page. Even the Table of Contents makes for good reading.

<snip>
Chapter 1
Introduction, page 1
Purpose • 1–1, page 1
References • 1–2, page 1
Explanation of abbreviations and terms • 1–3, page 1
Responsibilities • 1–4, page 1
Civilian inmate labor programs • 1–5, page 2
The process • 1–6, page 2

Chapter 2
Establishing Installation Civilian Inmate Labor Programs, page 4
Policy statement • 2–1, page 4
Negotiating with corrections systems representatives • 2–2, page 4
Governing provisions • 2–3, page 4
Procedures for establishing installation civilian inmate labor programs • 2–4, page 7

Chapter 3
Establishing Civilian Inmate Prison Camps on Army Installations, page 8
Policy statement • 3–1, page 8
Negotiating with correctional systems representatives to establish prison camps • 3–2, page 8
Governing criteria civilian inmate prison camps • 3–3, page 8
Governing provisions for operating civilian inmate prison camps on Army installations • 3–4, page 9
Procedures for establishing a civilian inmate prison camp on Army installations • 3–5, page 9
Interservice, interagency, or interdepartmental support agreements • 3–6, page 10

Chapter 4
Reporting and Recordkeeping, page 10
Incident reports • 4–1, page 10
Media coverage • 4–2, page 10
Recordkeeping • 4–3, page 11

Appendixes
A. References, page 12
B. Memorandum of Agreement Format, page 13
C. Sample Inmate Labor Plan, page 19
D. Management Control Evaluation Checklist, page 23
E. 18 USC 4125(A), and Executive Order 11755, page 23

<end snip>

Link to full AR:
http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf

[Zorbuddha]

23. OMG...They've got it all planned out

I should study this, but I'm afraid to open the link.

I wish you'd start a thread on this.

Thanks, sadly.

[Zorbuddha]

3. Torture at a distance

They turn themselves inside out coming up with new ways to spread pain and suffering around the planet.

[DemBones DemBones]

4. But if it plays in Baghdad, we'll see it in Baltimore, right?

Microwaves aimed at other human beings. . . Are they NUTS???

[Zorbuddha]

6. Shuh...

right.

They are going medieval on us.

Fucking war machine.

[DELUSIONAL]

7. Yes that are NUTS! Fucking Nuts!

The depravity of this gang never ceases to amaze me.

[Zorbuddha]

11. It's a scary mindset

the darkside.

[madeline_con]

8. Are they NUTS???

Most assuredly, yes.

It's "less lethal". I seem to remember the same being said about tasers... :tinfoilhat:

[Zorbuddha]

12. What's next, shock absorbers on the electric chair?

Much more humane and smoother ride.

[rooboy]

9. I hope the first person to invent an effective reflection device...

fries the shit out of any asshole who points that thing at them.

[Zorbuddha]

10. Flat out like a lizard drinkin'

That's the spirit.

[ladjf]

19. Anyone caught with a reflector would be arrested immediately

for being a terrorist.

[Zorbuddha]

24. "I was just tanning...

Your Honor."

[BikeWriter]

13. In-fucking-sane!

[burrowowl]

14. Use of this weapon

is in the NAZI mindset. Geez, Goebles and Hitler would love to be in Bu$hCo's shoes have their contol of media and dumb-downed public and part of PNAC!

[oostevo]

15. I know! I know!

It's an attack on all those paranoid, Bush-hating people who clearly identify themselves by wearing tin foil hats!

Ever seen tin foil in the microwave?

[wli]

16. wake up and smell the fascism

They're ready for mass protests. Why do you think they're so sure they're going to have to deal with them?

[Judi Lynn]

17. There is a use for these ray guns. Why not use them to melt

the Diebold voting machines after the nation formally rejects them permanently?

Once right-wing power-mad idiots can't pull votes outta thin air, and keep putting themselves in charge without the true consent of the people, the world wouldn't need to worry about the monstrous use of these weapons against any living creature.

Obviously if the soldiers are given them, they will become available to the same idiots who own the assault weapons now. What could possibly make the world uglier than that?

[Zorbuddha]

18. Good point , use 'em on Diebold voting machines LOL

Uglier is unlikely.

[Moderator]

20. Zorbuddha

This article is way over the 12 hour requirement for posting in LBN. The duplicate is already in the archives. Will move instead of lock.

[Zorbuddha]

22. ok

thanks.

[Zorbuddha]

25. Kicking myself