CIA Panel is on! THREAD #3

[Glenda]

#2

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#1

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[jn2375]

1. Asking how often CIA officers covers has been blown

[Jara sang]

8. How often?

[babylonsister]

2. Thanks, Glenda! nt

[dogday]

3. Rush Holt Of New Jersey

How unusual is it for covers to be blown?

[dogday]

4. Disclosure made by people who should of known better

that says it all....

[jn2375]

5. Made by government people how should have known better

Never done before

[babylonsister]

6. Deliberate disclosure by the center of gov't-unheard of. nt

[Windy]

7. Is Barbara Boxer there?

I don't see her

[jane_pippin]

10. I thought it was just congresspeople, not senators

Could be wrong though.

[BlueWolff]

13. Senators too!

[jane_pippin]

15. yay! glad to be wrong on that one

[BlueWolff]

43. No she is at the karen Hughes confirmation hearings

[babylonsister]

9. CIA personnel not allowed to defend themselves. nt

[Occulus]

14. the higher the leak, the more authority the leaker speaks with nt

[babylonsister]

11. Comparison to Watergate! nt

[NewJeffCT]

12. responding now so i can read at home

unfortunately, I'm busy today in cube-rat-ville.

[jn2375]

16. No past history of anything like this happening

[jn2375]

18. McCain making excuses for Dubya ha ha ha

[Horse with no Name]

17. Call the ugly dog what the" ugly dog is."...

What a great analogy.

[HeeBGBz]

19. So unprecedented, there is no past history

Woah.

Where IS the integrity, indeed.

Ugly dawgs...

[BlueWolff]

20. Calls McCain an apologist hehehe

Slappppppppp!
LMAO

[jn2375]

25. LOL

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

29. McCain made me want to vomit last night. Matthews brought up

Rove's crucifiction of him in the 2000 election, and McCain said it was politics. Disgusting man. I wonder what they have on him?

[gatorboy]

94. He's eyeballin' 2008

Like a true Republican, he sets his sights on elections not doing the people's business

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

101. I think it goes deeper than that. BTW... if I were McCain's wife

I would have divorced him already considering how much they smeared her and their child.

[havocmom]

120. McCain got off pretty easy in the Keating Five Scandal. Perhaps too easy?

Somebody probably helped him outta a really tough spot and knows the combination to the locker with the skeleton would be my guess. It is more than just an eye to 08.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

21. Johnson, where is a Howard Baker? A Republican with integrity.

Boy, do I remember admiring Baker from the Watergate hearings. He was wonderful.

[jane_pippin]

asking for Repub. of courage to stand up and call a dog a dog

Where are repubs of integrity!

Missed the speaker's name, who was it?

[babylonsister]

22. Johnson going off! No repugs w/the courage of their

convictions, McCain on Tweety acting the apologist, lack of integrity in repug party.

[Occulus]

23. REPUBLICANS: Larry Johnson just called you out.

We're waiting for one single man or woman of integrity in Congress to "call the ugly dog the ugly dog."

His words there, not mine.

[BlueWolff]

27. YA HEAR THAT FREEPERS?; I know you are lurking

LOL

[pacalo]

30. Pathetically, Republicans put party before good of the country.

[kestrel91316]

31. (longing for the days of the Big Dog ......sigh)

[Skidmore]

37. Republicans - the party of Treason

willing to sell the nation and its security for a buck. Forget the lives of our children--for they are worthless.

Defenders of Rove and everyone in that mess are Benedict Arnold Rs.

[goclark]

59. They are the ReTREASONcans ! nt

[tanyev]

24. Woof! Mentions John McCain on Hardball making excuses.

Asks where are the courageous Republicans to call out this behavior?

[Wheezy]

26. "I'm still a registered republican...'

"I expect better behavior out of republicans!"

[jn2375]

28. This would make a good sound bite

[alfredo]

123. As a Republican you need to speak up about how the

party has been hijacked by radicals who have put their agenda above the welfare of the American people. The moderate and traditional conservatives need to stand up to the Neo Cons. Take back your party.

[jane_pippin]

32. Talking Points Smackdown! yay!

[dogday]

33. The Level Of Ignorance Is Frightening says Larry Johnson

Waxman said not ill informed, talking points....

[jn2375]

34. Hope McCain sees Johnson's response about him

[0007]

122. Don't worry he will. But you can send it to McCain if you feel

it would be necessary.

[fooj]

124. You can bet that he will!

Peace.

[babylonsister]

35. Repug leadership-their level of ignorance is frightening! nt

[Skidmore]

38. Are they really ignorant or

just plain complicit because they love the power and perks of the cushy jobs?

[babylonsister]

44. They're all lining their pockets so they'll just ignore

all the bad news til they no longer can, which will be soon!

[Jazzgirl]

36. LOL!!

That level of ignorance is frightening. :rofl:

[jn2375]

39. Johnson was covert till the day he left CIA

[dogday]

40. Just a partisan issue

Rove's move.....

[LSK]

41. going over the RNC lying points

[jane_pippin]

42. Great point by Marcinkowski

about partisanship.

on edit: It's so nice to hear some actual common sense from smart people in all of this.

[BlueWolff]

45. They are smacking down Mehlman now

GOOD!

[BlueWolff]

48. RNC are fabricating info

He said obvioulsy they didn't read the law!!!

[jane_pippin]

55. thank god

[Glenda]

46. RNC: apparently they didn't even take the time to read the law

[Glenda]

58. Note to self: Don't mess with the CIA

I think the WH admin picked the wrong people to mess with

[dogday]

47. Holy Crap Confirmation is equally liable

[berner59]

56. Waxman ties it into a bow....

Ties it all to the reason for war...yeah Henry...sing it loud and clear!!

[babylonsister]

49. Johnson called RNC and Mehlman out for their

sloppiness in verifying their talking points. No way-say it ain't so!

[BlueWolff]

Slap- now it's Condi's turn called her statement a HOAX

about the mushroom cloud

[countingbluecars]

50. Waxman

tying it all back to the reason for going to war!

[cal04]

51. all goes back to Iraq.

We need to tie all these together

[dogday]

52. Waxman is putting all in context,

wished he would mention DSM as well......

[babylonsister]

53. Evidence manipulated and Condi was named by Waxman!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

54. Why hasn't anyone, including Conyers brought up the DSM? n/t

[goclark]

97. IMO , it's so much broader than DSM after this Knockout Punch!

I loved the reference to Poppy at the end!
Wow!!!!!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

111. I don't think mentioning would have hurt. It would have tied in, how

valid the DSM are. And yes! That was great quoting Poppy's words!

[HeeBGBz]

57. Connecting it to Iraq now

Mentioned Kinda Loser Rice

[berner59]

60. cutie pie Inslee back on...

Trying to get some basics on the laws and what was broken...

[HeeBGBz]

62. He is pleasing to the eye

Was thinking that myself.

[BlueWolff]

63. Hey he's mine!

[HeeBGBz]

65. Washington's lucky. All I have is Trent Lott

GAG

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

64. One would have to blind not to see how attractive he is! ;)

[berner59]

72. yummy

He looks better on TV now...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

108. lol! Would you ever think a man taking off his glasses and putting them

down could be so sexy?

[dogday]

69. I would like to make some law with him

whoooooo-hoooooooooooooooooooo:loveya:

[babylonsister]

61. Inslee up; Plame's outing compounded by sending a msg.

to the world that this was no big deal.

[jane_pippin]

66. Exec. order 12958 discussed now

Requires that investigation must take place when classified info has been breached.

Nice to put this on the record

[babylonsister]

67. Lang: A general rule is if a compromise of classified info

happens, an investigation is immediate. So what happened in this case?

[Jazzgirl]

68. Fitzgerald??

n/t

[babylonsister]

70. No, I think an internal investigation is what they're talking about;

in this case that didn't happen.

[Jazzgirl]

76. Got it.

That must've been when *shrub said he would get to the bottom of it. Riiiighhhhttttt.....

[rodeodance]

74. I so hunger for the world to hear this!!---so so much.

[rodeodance]

81. earlier someone said that McCain (on Hardball)--make excuses for this

kind of behavor. I did not watch Hardball last night-but matthews is back. Anyone know his response??

[babylonsister]

127. Here's a thread, rodeodance, RE: McCain on Tweety:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1947119

[BlueWolff]

73. Slap ---Bolton's turn about intimidation

Talking about intimidation factor

[jn2375]

71. Talking about Bolton now!!

[cal04]

75. shocker, Intimidation

this is what these guys do best
not only to the press and the media but the CIA

[Glenda]

77. Jim: Indicators that intelligence is going from the top down now

looking for what they want to hear.

SHould be from the bottom up - non-partissn

[tanyev]

78. Marcinkowski is sharp.

Concerned now that intelligence is being gathered from the top down instead of the bottom up.

[MelissaB]

79. Lang published an article titled, "Drinking the KoolAide".

[BlueWolff]

85. Quoting Bushie #1

Insidious of traitors!!

[Glenda]

80. Lang: wrote something called "Drinking the Kool-Aid"

I'd like to read that

[MelissaB]

91. Link:

http://www.mepc.org/public_asp/journal_vol11/0406_lang.asp

[dogday]

82. Waxman said wished This President would talk to his Father...

wow.

[RPM]

88. classic

that will piss ** of real good

[Occulus]

93. Oh dear. That's gotta hurt lil' Georgie's ego.

Bringin' family into it and all.

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

96. lets all ask c-span to REbroadcast this hearing.

[rodeodance]

100. I feel so sad, and worn out after listening to this--wondering if it go

anywhere. Seems the major networks are ignoring it.

[babylonsister]

83. That 'traitor' word rears it's ugly head yet again!! nt

[RPM]

84. quote GHWB and then...

Perhaps this president should talk to his father!!!!

[Glenda]

86. Waxman: You wish the current pres would talk to his father

and get some wisdom

:applause:

[pacalo]

116. That was at the very end of the meeting - did you hear the

CIA guys laughing & talking among themselves about that reference?! They said something like, "Yeah, that's the one who..." Couldn't make out the rest.

I hope C-Span doesn't cut that part when they re-air this.

[HeeBGBz]

87. Final smackdown

Junior is not as good as daddy...

[jsamuel]

90. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!

[jane_pippin]

89. Sweet! Bush 1 quote about insidious traitors

Oh man. That was nice.

I feel the need to :smoke:

[barbaraann]

92. I need a cigarette.

:o

[Occulus]

98. no shit, that was beautiful

[barbaraann]

118. Even a bad toupee couldn't spoil the moment.

:D

[babylonsister]

95. Lang: Drinking the Kool-Aid - here's the link:

http://www.mepc.org/public_asp/journal_vol11/0406_lang.asp

[Raksha]

126. Thanks for the link.

I just skimmed it quickly but bookmarked it to go back to later. It's pretty long but seems pretty insightful--and also pretty disturbing.

[orleans]

99. what were the alarms going off? and the cop/radio talkie? n/t

[katinmn]

103. Rather suspicious, wasn't it?

I'm sure they were hoping to clear the meeting.
Didn't work.

[Up2Late]

102. Hey! What did I miss? I just tuned in, anyone want to sum up?

Anyone know when it will be replayed?:shrug:

[countingbluecars]

104. This was an amazing hearing, but

what happens now? Will this be noticed and covered as news?

[HeeBGBz]

105. I'm so pleased they did this on my birthday

I couldn't ask for a better present!

[BeyondThePale]

107. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

I am enjoying your b-day present as well!

[StaggerLee]

109. Happy Birthday!

What a wonderful day you must be having. I share your joy!

:hi:

[HeeBGBz]

110. It is uplifting

I've put off my running around until I could hear every word.

[fooj]

112. Happy B-day! What a way to CELEBRATE!

Happy B-day HeeBGBz! Happy B-day Truth!!!

Peace.

[ClayZ]

114. Happy Birthday to you!

:woohoo:

[HeeBGBz]

115. Thank you, fellow listeners

It really gave me a hopeful outlook on the day.

[myrna minx]

121. Happy birthday. This is truly a historical day.

:bounce:

[immoderate]

106. In not so many words, they called for impeachment.

Maybe then we'll find out what happened on 9/11

--IMM

[ClayZ]

113. The Whole World is Watching!

[goclark]

117. This CIA Hearing was the Smoking Gun!

You had CIA agents, Republicans, saying they were not respected and honored by this administration.

Everyone was no longer afraid to speak, they told the TRUTH.

They had video clips that will rock the evening news.

The took the was and sat it DOWN at the feet of GWB and everyone of his criminals.

They OUTED Rove and everyone above him and below him.

The only one they didn't talk about was the *'s Mama!!!!!

Oh happy day!

This one came out of left field and will kick them in the butt!

Bye Bye Chimp!

This hearing was the Knockout Punch!

[immoderate]

119. It depends on his defenders.

If people like McCain see how stupid he looks, then the evacuation will be abrupt. Circumstances will determine if this is a done deal. I don't want to underestimate the power of blind stupidity in drawing this out.

But I hope you're right.

--IMM

[Nothing Without Hope]

125. Related: who forged the Niger documents and how/by whom was the

blatant evidence of their fasleness suppressed?

From Hersh, looks like Bolton was probably involved in the suppression.

Please read this thread, both the opening post and the replies - this aspect of the scandal needs to be brought into focus with the rest:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1939214
Thread title: Yglesias: WHO FORGED THE NIGER DOCUMENTS? At the heart of the WMD lies

Sen Jay Rockefeller asked for an FBI investigation but it has gone NOWHERE, which may well have been the intention; the request for that investigation derailed the possibility of OTHER investigations that might have actually found evidence. The FBI have deliberately NOT interviewed where they might get uncomfortable answers. Info on this is in the thread too.