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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:28 PM
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"House OKs bill making Patriot Act permanent"
what a surprise! such patriotism in war time!!


http://www.thedesertsun.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?

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House OKs bill making Patriot Act permanent

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"WASHINGTON - The House passed a bill Thursday night that would make permanent several controversial provisions of the USA Patriot Act, a sweeping anti-terrorism and anti-crime law that Congress passed in the weeks after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
The House, which approved the measure 257-171, began debate shortly after the Senate Judiciary Committee approved its own version of the bill.

Both bills would make permanent 14 of 16 Patriot Act provisions set to expire Dec. 31. Both would also extend "sunsets," or expiration dates, for two other provisions - one dealing with wiretaps and the other with seizures of library and medical records.

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Ready2Snap Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:29 PM
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1. And when we retake Congress
We'll make it impermanent!
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:35 PM
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5. Has Diebold been consulted about this "retake Congress" plan?

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:39 PM
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6. ya got that rt
oldie but godie quote from uncle joe himself..

purged his officers during war..
killed 25 million citizens..

and the US had him as a pal...
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Ready2Snap Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:34 PM
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14. Diebold can be held to account, but it'll take a lot of bodies -
But once we're back they will be the first business we investigate,
and after we throw the guilty bastards in jail and fix the system, we'll Move ON!

Personally, I think the guys who program and build slot machines would be perfect for the job.
Those guys know how to write code that can't be fucked with.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:30 PM
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2. Hence why we need to retake congress
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:32 PM
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3. Was such a thing necessary during the Vietnam War?
I cannot remember...
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:42 PM
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7. no .the Patriots were either fighting in VN or protesting VN
while the chikenhawks and neo-cons plotted the criminal overthrow of the US govt and demonized the Patriots for the VN war which they supported and avoided..

Veteran for PEACE.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:32 PM
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4. One more step on the way to a police state IMO
Rec
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:01 PM
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8. Anyone who think a Democratic majority in congress will make a
difference is seriously deluding themselves. Didn't you know when they first passed it that it would become permanent? Didn't the Democrats then? Oh wait, they didn't even read it.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:10 PM
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9. ya is rt!!
dems are not helping me.

the patsy act does NOTHING for security

there can be NO COMPROMISE with the busheviks..

I am a registered dem and they are losing many like me ..who see them as part of the problem

have the dems won anything in the busheviks reaign of terror??

they are the minority party BUT they couold at least act like they care about their CITIZENS ..

a lil more hollering and hassling the busheviks could go a long way???
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Ready2Snap Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:26 PM
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12. Having now read it
is all the more reason to repeal it, at least most of it.

Then we repeal the tax cuts; income and capital gains.
Then we raise the FICA tax cap.
Then we repeal that perversion of a Medicare bill. And the bills that won't allow collective bargaining for the cost of drugs.
Then we strangle Star Wars, the Osprey and half a dozen other projects the Pentagon doesn't even want.
Then dismantle the 35,000+ nuclear warheads we are stockpiling at God knows what expense.
Shit, We'll be out of the red in no time.

Then we implement The New New Deal:
Put millions of people back to work rebuilding the national infrastructure that's been so badly neglected for too long,
including a national fiber optic cable network.
Break up the communications conglomerates just like they did the industrial monsters of 100 years ago.
Pass a National Universal Health Care Plan.
Invest heavily in, and give tax breaks for, developing renewable energy sources.

Then, after lunch - -
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:30 PM
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13. don't snap...
so in other words if bush was imprisoned for the rest of his natural life..then maybe the USA could have its SOUL back???
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Ready2Snap Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:41 PM
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15. Remember the line from "Trading PLaces"?
"If you wanna hurt rich people, take their money away."
Make them live in the poverty they've created for the people they've exploited.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:46 PM
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16. nice thought..
after all the history of more recent yrs would indicate that the privleged elites have no need of nation or nationalism or patriotism..their allegiance continues to be to their wealth and the protection of this wealth..
Why is it called unearned wealth??

most wealth is inherited???
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:29 PM
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10. We up on your games if you know wha me mean
The state of union

The people live in misery
Govemment a work
But govemment them is a monckery
Respect to the youths
Whether in front and all dem a back a me
Why don't you treat them the way you should
And I know all the things you hide
Even though it's a good disguise
And we see all the things you do
And what you do will comeback on you
You think we can't fight what the eyes can't see
Because we are blinded by poverty

The people live in misery
Govemment a work
But govemment them is a monckery
Respect to the youths
Whether in front and all dem a back a me
Why don't you treat them the way you should

The people live in misery
Govemment a work
But govemment them is a monckery
Respect to the youths
Whether in front and all dem a back a me
Why don't you treat them the way you should

It's like the people you want them to rebel
And fire gunshots and burn buildings to hell
And after that you a go want treat me well
It's like you have the people under a spell
Talking to the people in a congress
A we vote you in, so you must put out your best
After all we no in a contest
It's the state of the union address

The people live in misery
Govemment a work
But govemment them is a monckery
Respect to the youths
Whether in front and all dem a back a me
Why don't you treat them the way you should

The people live in misery
Govemment a work
But govemment them is a monckery
Respect to the youths
Whether in front and all dem a back a me
Why don't you treat them the way you should

Broadcasting lies on the television sreen
Trying to get us hooked on your american dream
We up on your games if you know wha me mean
When you cheated on your wife with your money and your schemes
People rule and a that you fi follow
We and nuh no call me no nigga
Do a good term and you deserve another
Signed musically yours, the general sleepywonder

The people live in misery
Govemment a work
But govemment them is a monckery
Respect to the youths
Whether in front and all dem a back a me
Why don't you treat them the way you should

The people live in misery
Govemment a work
But govemment them is a monckery
Respect to the youths
Whether in front and all dem a back a me
Why don't you treat them the way you should

Thievery Corporation

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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:41 PM
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11. kkkarl rover is a "T"
and so are all the american/british aristorats in family bush and so are all the neo-cons and chickenhawksand most repukes in congress and who knows how many more..also MM in its near completeness or incompleteness
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:06 PM
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17. Kick for the night owls
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