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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:16 PM
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Cheney tells Pentagon to plan for Armageddon?
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 05:38 PM by xray s
As posted at Billmon...(oh shit, I'm going to stock up on water and peanut butter...)

http://billmon.org/archives/002051.html\

T Update 4:10 pm ET: I didn't realize when I wrote this post that the American Conservative (dead tree version) was reporting this:

The Pentagon, acting under instructions from Vice President Dick Cheney's office, has tasked the United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) with drawing up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States. The plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons.

Within Iran there are more than 450 major strategic targets, including numerous suspected nuclear-weapons-program development sites. Many of the targets are hardened or are deep underground and could not be taken out by conventional weapons, hence the nuclear option. As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States.

Several senior Air Force officers involved in the planning are reportedly appalled at the implications of what they are doing -- that Iran is being set up for an unprovoked nuclear attack -- but no one is prepared to damage his career by posing any objections.




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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:17 PM
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1. the end of the world as we know it
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Son of California Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:19 PM
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2. GET THIS OUT< LET PEOPLE KNOW
WE need to get this out.

People are already so pissed about Iraq and how bad its going, how happy would they be to hear that they are trying to start another war in Iraq.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:17 PM
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29. No... this is worse.
I have little doubt that the administration is setting the stage for the invasion of Iran.

Now here's the scary part;

"The Pentagon, acting under instructions from Vice President Dick Cheney's office, has tasked the United States Strategic Command (STRATCOM) with drawing up a contingency plan to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States."

They want to invade Iran.

What one event would simultaneously accomplish the following;

1) Take the spotlight right off of Rove/Plame?
2) Rally national support for another invasion?
3) Rally national support for a draft?
4) Dramatically increase recruitment numbers?
5) Get Congressional approval for greater defense spending?
6) Help pass even more pervasive and intrusive 'Homeland Security' measures?
7) Give this administration the excuse to loose some nukes on Iran?

Just think... what ONE type of event would give this administration enough reason to all-out pursue the PNAC?

One event.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:23 PM
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3. Ah, yes, the "Ready, Fire, Aim!" defense strategy
That worked so well in the past, didn't it?
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:25 PM
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4. pure intimidation factor
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 05:25 PM by wli
Battle plans like these are drawn up all the time, even against friendly nations. It's an intimidation-oriented propaganda tactic to "leak" the fact the planning is happening against any particular country.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:27 PM
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7. WTF are you talking about?
Maybe the Nazi's had battle plans like these, but not the USA....oh, nevermind. (Sorry for using the N word)
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:32 PM
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12. Klaus Barbie was working for the US in 1980
Perhaps you overestimate their ethics. The US has been doing a lot of dastardly things since WWII.
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ironman202 Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:43 PM
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18. you're kidding yourself....
the U.S. Army has a war plan for everything. What do you think they're doing all day every day up at the War College? Contemplaiting Napoleon's winter campaign in Russia? We got a war plan if Lichtenstein or Swaziland gives us any shit.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:45 PM
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20. IF they give us shit
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 05:46 PM by xray s
This is a plan to attack Iran with nuclear weapons if, lets say, another 19 terrorists crash a plane into a building in the US. With no evidence that Iran is responsible.

That is the difference!

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ironman202 Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:47 PM
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22. i didnt say the shit had to be real or truthful...
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:39 PM
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16. Typical of our govt.
I've heard stories of plans like these for years. There was always a worse case scenario. Scary shit, yes, but no great surprise.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:43 PM
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19. What???
I know our government has planned for nuclear retaliation against countries that attack the US, but this is a plan for nuking a country that HASN'T ATTACKED US!!!

That is FUCKED UP!!!

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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:49 PM
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25. They had first strike plans for the USSR during the cold war
It's typical...sad, but true.
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:25 PM
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5. Where do you think we'll be hit? Most Americans don't identify with New
York but he couldn't really make it middle of nowhere.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:26 PM
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6. SIOP
SIOP had been targetting for decades. I don't know if they still have Single Integrated Operational Plan, but I imagine they have to point the damned missiles at something. I also imagine that retargetting as threats wax and wane is standard procedure.

Don't get me wrong. I think this is horrid. The thought of these idiots actually fighting this war is scary. I don't this country has been in as much danger since October, 1962 when we were possibly minutes from nuclear armageddon. What's most scary is that an illiterate, uneducated bumpkin like * is the one with his finger on the trigger.
:scared:

This report just underlines what we already know, that these guys have to be removed from office, the sooner the better.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:28 PM
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8. I've never been in the MIHOP camp
But when I read shit like this....
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:29 PM
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9. Source is print edition of American Conservative
Aggitation propaganda? True? Both?:wow: Billmon thinks maybe its just Crazy Nixon all over again.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:31 PM
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11. Billmon's post is great
he has been on fire lately. But when I read this item, the hair on back of my neck stood up.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:36 PM
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14. Been drinking at the Whiskey Bar for a while.
Who cares whether they wash the glasses?
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:31 PM
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10. This is the one story that SHOULD SUPER-CEDE the Rove story
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 05:59 PM by jsamuel
I hope to God the media picks up on this one and verifies it.

PLEASE!!!!

On edit: Of course that is contingent on this story being VERIFIED as I said originally.

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:38 PM
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15. Do you really believe this?
Straight question. No scoffing, for a change.

Where is that scoffing smiley? Guess this one comes closest :spray:
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:41 PM
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17. All these stories are tied together
Lie about the reasons while you plan for the military take over of the Middle East.



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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:35 PM
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13. I am going out to stock up on duct tape now
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ironman202 Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:46 PM
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21. yeah duct tape will work
this is from the exact same bunch of assholes that told us to duck and cover under our desks in school.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:48 PM
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23. You'll need more than duct tape-- radiation shields, more like. n/t
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:48 PM
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24. Cheney's nickname really should be "Nuclear Dick"
He has a strange and morbid fascination with the subject, don'tcha think?
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:50 PM
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26. He is Dr Strangelove
He probably has all those women sitting in his undisclosed location waiting to repopulate the earth
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:50 PM
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27. dont forget duct tape and plastic sheeting! (nt)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:56 PM
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28. I'm not familiar with this source. Is it credible?
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:20 PM
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30. TAPS?
maybe he's on his way out and wants to take the world with him.(that was tasteless, i'm ashamed of myself.)

but seriously, does he have grandchildren?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 08:00 PM
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43. He has a really cute granddaughter.
BTW, you can never be tasteless enough when it comes to Mr. "Go Fuck Yourself" Cheney.
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wookie294 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:22 PM
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31. Cheney just declared war on Iran
How is this report anything but a declaration of war against Iran?
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leftupnorth Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:24 PM
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32. WTF is MIHOP?
I've been dying to know, but afraid to ask.

A Navy friend of mine used to work on a Nuke warhead sub as a "missle tech" and he once told me that they have target packages that they drill with that include places "that would make you cry", what he meant was places like here, USA. Nuclear warhead submarines targeting our own soil. What would be the purpose of such a "target package" be?
Foreign invasion? Civil uprising? Disease control?

Anybody?
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:26 PM
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33. MIHOP
Made It Happen On Purpose

related to LIHOP

Let It Happen On Purpose
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leftupnorth Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:28 PM
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34. thanks
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:47 PM
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37. Welcome to DU!
:bounce: :beer: :hi: :headbang: :yourock: :woohoo: :applause: :patriot:
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:45 PM
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35. I don't like all of the signals being put out
as if to get people ready for it.

:nuke:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:46 PM
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36. So Cheney is planning another 911?
What an asshole.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:48 PM
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38. one way, or the other, these are the latter days...
prepare yourself ~
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ChiDem Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:55 PM
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39. I don't get it ?
This is one source, a guy named Billmon, who is from the Whiskey Bar..

I wait for another source, thank you.

He says the AC is reporting this story, if this is their site, then I cannot find it .. http://www.amconmag.com/

Am I missing something here ?
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:42 PM
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41. He said it was in the "dead trees" edition
meaning print.


It's just one more of about 543 signals being put out. Take it for what you want.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:01 PM
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40. Another 9/11... Marshal law and take over the country!
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 07:02 PM by Rainscents
We'll have Bush for life time.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:51 PM
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42. The next attack in Amerika will be from Iran.
No matter if the perps are not Iranians, there will be evidence that they were.
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