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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:14 PM
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No more judicial confirmations until the Plame affair is settled
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 07:45 PM by Gabi Hayes
Why?

because who knows if this won't end up like Watergate, with a disgraced dumbass being forced from office prematurely

even if that doesn't happen, the dems should have the balls to tie these two together to force a response from the junta

why on earth should that imbecile get any more wingnut loons packing the court, anyway?

look what they did to WJC in the last few years of his presidency: very few appointments got through, leaving a logjam that the Achordate Party oh-so-willingly allowed to be broken, even when they controlled the Senate

why should Dems go along with ONE SINGLE thing the repugs want to do?
who cares if they're labeled obstructionists? that's already happened?

do you think that those who 'obstructed' Hitler in 20s/30s Weimar were correct?

or what?

EDIT: thanks to Pirate Smile for this further, more eloquent addition, via Frank Rich:

When a conspiracy is unraveling, and it's every liar and his lawyer for themselves, the story takes on a momentum of its own.

When the conspiracy is, at its heart, about the White House's twisting of the intelligence used to sell the American people a war - and its desperate efforts to cover up that flimflam once the W.M.D. cupboard proved bare and the war went south - the story will not end until the war really is in its "last throes."
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:17 PM
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1. The problem is that the Dems seem to have two balls, one is
the size of a mustard seed and the other is real small.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:43 PM
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6. and 1.5 is owned by big business
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:22 PM
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2. Great idea!
I think that the public would buy into it too!

Why don't the Dems pull this stunt?! It makes perfect sense, and it would garner support from the slowly awakening sheeples!!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:30 PM
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3. I can't believe nobody's thought of it yet, or at least publicly
articulated it

the far far right has 'governed' since Reagan by publicity stunt, basically

they rely on the superficial, the soundbite, the shiny object, the marketing ploy, to catch the heedless public's attention, then, truthful or not, repeat whatever BS they spread.....endlessly, so that, even when it's proven to be a lie, enough people believe said lie so that it never mattered whether or not the original assertion was true

examples:

Saddam/911

Kerry: Vietnam coward/Bush: fearless pilot

need I go on?

they play the game, of course with more than willing media complicity, much better than the candyass party, most of whose members seem only too willing to let what's left of our democracy slip away with each depredation

how many frickin Dems voted to renew the PATRIOT Act? like FIFTY????
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:33 PM
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4. go tell it on the mountain......
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:39 PM
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5. the thing about this is.....is that, unlike 'hearings' by Conyers, etal,
which the press freely ignores, they CAN'T ignore the fact of a boycott of judicial nominees

they'd HAVE to cover it, and, unless they've completely gone over to the pugs' side, the concomitant reasons for dems' free use of the filibuster would have to be widely dissemintated, however reluctantly, by dumbass's media handmaidens
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:49 PM
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7. I've been talking about this for days, weeks. The only explanation for
the visible lack of at the upper levels of the Party is: when the hearings begin, they're waiting for indictments. Then, everything changes.

Don't believe this hasn't occurred to others.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:53 PM
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8. good point, but now's the time to start, because the media would LOVE
to let this go, just as they have every single other of the myriad scandals this kleptocracy has generated

the sheer number of such seriously boggles the mind, and there have been quite a few that should have resulted in impeachment hearings, had the media bothered to do its job

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 09:00 PM
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9. No, Plame is the prime mover by which they're going to drag BushCo out of
town. If they fail at that, we're all truly fucked.

Nixon was probably more dangerous, given the times, and the horrible crimes -- Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Chile, etc. etc. -- if the reality-based community in DC could deal with him, there's no question that they can depose Dimson.

Note that Bush 41 was doing skydiving and other mortally dangerous experiences 18 months ago when they all realized it was all going to have a bad end.

They're done, politically.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 09:14 PM
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10. How's this: no judicial nominees in which Rove has had a role in selecting
Especially if he comes under indictment, I think this would be a legitimate point to raise. If I were grilling Roberts in a confirmation hearing, I would ask if he had met with Karl Rove, how many times, for how long they met, and what they discussed. And you've got to know that Karl Rove is probably calling all of the shots for the Chimp in these selections. How can a prospective felon be involved in selecting a Judge who could potentially be ruling on his case, if it involves complex legal issues and a possible appeal all the way up to the Supreme Court? We are dealing with federal statutes that forseeably could involve ultimate issues of federal law. That would involve a serious conflict of interest for ANY potential Supreme Court nominee including Mr. Roberts.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 09:34 PM
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11. Good idea. It won't take hold now, but give it three or four weeks.
Here's hoping.
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