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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 07:15 AM
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Your Sunday morning reading project - Civilian Inmate Labor Program
:tinfoilhat:-time, Girls and Boys. Grab a cuppa coffee, settle in for an interesting read on what your government has been planning.

Your assignment this morning is to read Army Regulation AR210-35, which was updated on January 14, 2005. The title is "Civilian Inmate Labor Program." You can find little gems on every page. Even the Table of Contents makes for good reading.

<snip>
Chapter 1
Introduction
, page 1
Purpose • 1–1, page 1
References • 1–2, page 1
Explanation of abbreviations and terms • 1–3, page 1
Responsibilities • 1–4, page 1
Civilian inmate labor programs • 1–5, page 2
The process • 1–6, page 2

Chapter 2
Establishing Installation Civilian Inmate Labor Programs
, page 4
Policy statement • 2–1, page 4
Negotiating with corrections systems representatives • 2–2, page 4
Governing provisions • 2–3, page 4
Procedures for establishing installation civilian inmate labor programs • 2–4, page 7

Chapter 3
Establishing Civilian Inmate Prison Camps on Army Installations
, page 8
Policy statement • 3–1, page 8
Negotiating with correctional systems representatives to establish prison camps • 3–2, page 8
Governing criteria civilian inmate prison camps • 3–3, page 8
Governing provisions for operating civilian inmate prison camps on Army installations • 3–4, page 9
Procedures for establishing a civilian inmate prison camp on Army installations • 3–5, page 9
Interservice, interagency, or interdepartmental support agreements • 3–6, page 10

Chapter 4
Reporting and Recordkeeping
, page 10
Incident reports • 4–1, page 10
Media coverage • 4–2, page 10
Recordkeeping • 4–3, page 11

Appendixes
A. References, page 12
B. Memorandum of Agreement Format, page 13
C. Sample Inmate Labor Plan, page 19
D. Management Control Evaluation Checklist, page 23
E. 18 USC 4125(A), and Executive Order 11755, page 23

<end snip>

Here's a few passages I thought were interesting:

  • Section 2-1(b). The Army is not interested in, nor can afford, any relationship with a corrections facility if that relationship
    stipulates payment for civilian inmate labor.
  • Section 2-3(6)(c). Services provided to installations. Services provided to the installation must be in accordance with 18 USC
    4125(a). Such services are constructing or repairing roads; clearing, maintaining, or reforesting public land; building
    levees; or constructing or repairing any other public way or works financed wholly or in major part by funds appropriated by Congress. Inmates may perform custodial tasks, building demolition, debris removal, mowing, landscaping, painting, carpentry, trash pickup, transporting debris to and from recycling centers, and other similar
    activities. No other services are allowed by law.
  • In the Memorandum of Agreement, Section 4(r) Inmates will not have access to or use phone lines or fax fax machines, computers/computer systems (and any other restrictions to the local Federal corrections facility may place on inmate use.)


I'm sure pleased to know my government is prepared for any eventuality. :sarcasm:

Link to full AR:
http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf
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stocksthatgoup Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 07:24 AM
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1. Amazing
Is this how Bush has lowered the unemployment rate?
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 07:31 AM
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3. Not yet. It's unclear where this massive increase in the prison
population is going to come from. A large scale roundup of dissidents? A huge increase of debtors caught by the MBNA Slavery Act of 2005? Revocation of Habeas Corpus? Mass arrests of protesters?

BTW, welcome to DU :hi:
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 07:31 AM
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2. Glancing through the document,,,,
...and it appears to be a plan by the military to use minimum security prisoners from established prisons as labor to save money.


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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 07:34 AM
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4. The $64,000 question is where does this massive increase in the prison
population come from? See my post #3 above.
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 07:46 AM
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5. Are there indications in the document...
..that a massive increase in prison population is required?
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 07:48 AM
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6. Don't think so. As I read it, the AR is preparation for prison overflow.
eom
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:03 AM
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7. Think it might be related to this?
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:12 AM
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8. I don't think so.
I researched that site a while ago & think it's bogus. IMHO, that site is part of the misinformation propaganda. It has hints of the truth, but not the whole story.

I followed a thread about railway cars with shackles being manufactured in the US. I forget right now who the manufacturer was, but I remember that lead fizzled out when I posted to a coupla state forums asking about the company in question.







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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:16 AM
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9. Maybe I picked the wrong site.
There's too many of these stories for it to be completely bogus.

:tinfoilhat:
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:27 AM
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10. I agree there's truth hidden somewhere in this site,
but the misinformation poisons the story. (Sounds like you-know-who.)
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:32 AM
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11. We Have To Get This Into A Good Format For The Site.
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 08:33 AM by DistressedAmerican
Can you pull together a short summary with links in the style of the daily headlines at ENDTHEABUSES? If you send or post some text, I can get it all set up and posted.

If you'd prefer, I'll take a look and see what I can work up. Let me know.

Nothing like linking out military gulags right to out civilian ones. It just gets uglier and uglier...

Kick and of course Nomimation. Good find.
DA
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:39 AM
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13. I've got snips of AR210-35 saved in a word doc.
I should be able to work on this later today & get it into the eta format. PM me with email addr that will accept a word doc attachment.
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:48 AM
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17. Google Rex 84
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ChiDem Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:36 AM
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12. Al Martin spoke of this years ago
He says, in his book that he was in a meeting in 1984 with Jeb Bush, Oliver North, Donald Gregg, Fred Ikley and others..

He claims in this meeting North gave a extensive speech about how Iran/Contra money was being diverted to rebuild some Civilian Inmate Labor Facilities, most of which were built in the early 70's, they were allowed to deteriote until 84 when money started to pour back into them to build them back up, he mentions buildings in Kings county Washington, Paris county, Texas, Lake Charles Parish in Louisiana
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:42 AM
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14. Finding the roots of why this program was created and codified
would make for interesting reading. I suspect the 70s riots and mass protests were some of the drivers.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:27 AM
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15. S.H.A.F.T.A.
Soldiers, Holding, Able-bodied, Felons,Trade, Agreement
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:48 AM
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16. Even without the tinfoil hat, I don't like this.
Seems unAmerican for civilian prisoners to be providing free labor for the military. I mean, I guess I can see having prisoners clean up the highways -- it's like community service -- but having a military reliant on slave labor... well... sounds like something that would happen in a totalitarian regime...

I've skimmed over this a few times but can't find where they mention a large increase in the prison population. Can you direct me?
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:14 PM
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18. Afternoon kick.
:kick:
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 06:45 AM
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19. A Monday morning kick
It's the final one, I promise!
:kick:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:08 AM
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20. Good Stuff. The ugly guts of the "Ownership Society" laid bare...
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 05:49 AM
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21. This is dated January 2005. They're gettin' ready!
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