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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:22 PM
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"Centrist Dems Urge Military Enlargement"
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - Centrists who contend Democrats cannot retake the White House until voters trust the party to protect them said Sunday the Army should expand by 100,000 soldiers and that colleges should open their campuses to military recruiters.

"A Democrat has to show the toughness to govern," said Al From, founder of the Democratic Leadership Council. "People don't doubt that Republicans will be tough."

From argued that national security and safety are threshold issues for swing voters who increasingly are trending Republican.

"We're using the National Guard as a backdoor draft," he said.

http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20050724/D8BHUN201.html
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:24 PM
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1. Al From can take his military enlargement and shove it up his ass.
He and the DLC have done their best to sell out the Democratic Party from their inception.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:01 PM
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11. and that is putting it nicely!
:argh:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-05 12:55 AM
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20. kick
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:25 PM
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2. Cant From register directly to the RNC. \nt
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 08:25 PM by Mass
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:27 PM
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3. worked so well in '04!!!
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Stray Roots Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:31 PM
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4. Yeah call for more aggressive recrutment in an unpopular war
Where do these guys live. Why doesn't Al From volunteer his kid? The Christian Colleges should go first since they started the damn war.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:39 PM
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5. 100000 comes directly from PNAC.
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bassman79 Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:57 PM
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9. So does a "New Pearl Harbor"
PNAC talked about how helpful it would be in getting their "transformation" through back in 2000.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:48 PM
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6. What are those guys ON?
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 08:51 PM by Lydia Leftcoast
Most of the trouble this country has gotten into in the past fifty years is BECAUSE OF having a large military.

If we'd demobilized after World War II or at least reduced the military to Canadian levels, we wouldn't have gotten into Vietnam or any of the other debacles of my lifetime.

My God, we already spend more on war than the next seven countries combined.

No amount is enough for these armchair warriors! If they're so gung ho about taking over the world, let all the neocons under age 42 and their spouses and children over 17 sign up first.

Does the tag team of DLC interns that frequents this board and dogpiles on anyone who wants the Dems to be more populist REALLY not know why so many of us are against them?

If you're reading this, guys (you know who you are), this is just ONE example.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:56 PM
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7. Actually, as of June, 2005...
... if we include the actual amount of the budget spent on defense-related items and supplemental war spending, we spend more on defense than the rest of the world combined.

And, who benefits first by increased defense spending? Defense contractors. Al From is a shill for big business, and that's his real interest in this.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:54 PM
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8. Obscene. Perverse. Sick. And the RW call US demented?!
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:07 PM
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13. And that is the hidden cost of so-called 'cheap oil',
tax money used to support a trillion(s) dollar military-industrial boodogle/bludgeon. Screw healthcare, education, jobs training, developing alternative energies...No, we must show we are as idiotic and simple minded as the republicans. Bomb Mecca!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:51 AM
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16. yep, n/t
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:43 PM
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19. tag team of DLC interns
LOL,

If a D is acting exactly like an R, it's "strategy", so stop whining!
:sarcasm:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:59 PM
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10. I've heard those creams don't really work. nt
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Lannes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:06 PM
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12. If this war ever ends...
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 11:10 PM by Lannes
We are going to have to find soldiers to replace all the ones that are going to leave but thats AFTER we pull them out of Iraq and Bush is out of office.

Those dems should be smart enough to know that if we give chimpie another 100k troops he will use them to invade another country.We are stretched too thin right now which is probably the only thing keeping him from starting another war.

edit for clarification
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 11:08 PM
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14. nominated
so others can have their blood pressure go up too.
may Al From rot in hell!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 12:12 AM
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15. kick
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:10 AM
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17. Right Idea...Wrong Messenger...
Charlie Rangel's got the right idea here. None of us want a draft, we want this invasion over and our forces back home. The best way to do this is forcing the issue on the Repugnicans...put up or shut up and keep it on them. Democrats have done a poor job in framing this invasion as "a Repugnican war"...and it's about time we did so. As it becomes more and more unpopular, we can use this issue to label not just the unelectable crooks in the White House, but the electable Congresscritters who are the ones we need to remove, and can.

Repugnicans are loath to want a draft or the appearance the military is falling apart and the only way to expose this real abuse of our national treasure (young people) and treasury is by forcing their hands...making them shit or get off the pot. It starts with things like Operation Yellow Elephant, but it needs even more teeth. We need to push the Repugnicans to put up or shut up about their war. Force them to go on record in favor of a draft or any other action that will have a very negative reaction in the many districts...especially the disputed ones.

The way this Congress is currently composed, they won't look at a draft or any bill that makes them look bad or like the hypocrites they are unless they are forced to...and then will drag their heels. Thus this can be a great issue to take on the campaign trail. If a Repugnican isn't in favor of increasing the size of the military through a draft and "doing the job right", then he's "weak on defense". If a person is abohored at the concept of a draft or expanding military, then the Democrats and their plans to end this quagmire is the alternative.

Forgive me, the political pundit musta got up before the rest of me...
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Stray Roots Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 11:16 AM
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18. He isn't calling for a draft
He is calling for recrutment at antiwar universities as if that makes sense? I am all in favor of drafting chicken hawks. Not anti Iraq war kids.
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