GOP to investigate Fitzgerald

[Postman]

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/7/25/191620/049

Beam me up ,Scotty. This country is f**ked.

[FreedomAngel82]

1. Oh brother

:eyes: So they can investigate Fitzgerald (one of their own by the way) but we can't investigate Roberts? Yeah right. They're all guilty.

[Postman]

4. Josh Marshall has this to say...

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_07_24.php#006156

[writes2000]

6. It's beyond ridiculous. Keep shining a light on these pieces of shit.

[fooj]

64. "decision to investigate Fitzgerald comes down by orders of the WH"

Shameless hypocrites. The country has to deal with THIS shit, too?
How fucking PATRIOTIC!

Peace.

[lovuian]

91. This is ABUSE of POWER!!! Republicans appointed him!!!

Are they saying that now since he is finding treason that he is outta there!!! People are going to have to hit the streets soon here!!!

[fooj]

95. I'm afraid that I have to agree.

They can't have it both ways.

Peace.

[savemefromdumbya]

15. Here we go, here we go?

Maybe the prosecutors in the Texan Savings and Loans scandal http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a389b6a173e33.htm should be brought in too so that Fitzy should have some back up support? However, Fitz has dealt with these types before? Can we take back our country. I think we'll also have to call in Howard Dean to sort them out?

[Imagevision]

22. Won't it appear like an attempt to smear/discredit again??

like what Bushco did to Mr. & Mrs. Wilson.

[atre]

65. They won't smear; they'll blackmail

nm

[roguevalley]

40. send him a message here:

https://ssl.capwiz.com/congressorg/mail/gateway/s1122339115/

[ooglymoogly]

109. your shameless proselytizing of those adorable

weenies is disgusting.

[wallwriter]

2. James Doohan is dead. I bet those f***ers killed him.

[ScamUSA.Com]

3. no publicity is bad publicity

desperate attempt at a coverup

Fitzgerald is the bomb... dont friggin forget it

[stepnw1f]

5. Republicans Do Not Respect America

This is an excellant example of how they obstruct justice.

[joemurphy]

8. I hope they're dumb enough to try to investigate Fitz.

Then we can haul Pat Roberts in front of the grand jury too and all the DC housewives can ask him personally who suggested this investigation to him!

Further proof that Republicans have no shame whatsoever.

[gulfcoastliberal]

13. I really hope the Grand Jury has wrapped up by Labor Day

NT

[Cocoa]

7. bring in Ken Starr

see what he can dig up on Fitzgerald.

[Straight Shooter]

9. Bwahahaha. They have only one response to any threatening situation.

The politics of personal destruction.

I can smell the sweaty fear from way over here.

edit: not Fitzgerald per se being investigated, but any taint they can throw on the probe will be associated with Fitzgerald. Why don't they spend their time more wisely, how about finding out who forged those Niger documents?

[1monster]

113. I rather think that they already know who.... Or they've been told not to

ask.

[bluestateguy]

10. Ah, the fruits of the spoils system

If Democrats controlled the Congress during the Clinton years (all 8 of them anyway), Ken Starr would have been bagging groceries and not plying into people's sex lives.

[grannylib]

11. *lol* that's a good one. eom

[RSchewe]

12. How in the world do you investigate an investigator?

Republicans never cease to amaze me. Just when you think they run out of ideas, they come out with desperate moves like this. It looks to me though that they are too dumb to realize that this exposure will most likely backfire. All of the information out there (besides what is not disclosed by the prosecutor) in unrefutable and will only add more gas to the fire.

What do the President and Vice President know and when did they learn it?

[Postman]

24. Actually firing Fitz would be too obvious....

they have to figure a way to dodge this by other means.

Holding sham public hearings to get people on the record, offering immunity, etc., etc....this link covers that MO
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1956242

The other is to have that fraud from Kansas - Pat Roberts - launch an investigation of Fitzgerald to create a perception of wrong-doing on Fitz's part.

I'm sorry, there is no other word to describe these republicans (they're not even republicans any more, really)...they are criminals and should be thrown in jail.

I think the corruption that is present in the republican party runs soo deep and soo wide that they can't afford to let the truth come out because they would never hold office again.

[AuntiBush]

77. I Have A Few Choice Words to Describe Them.

Evil Bastards!

I have hope in Fitz. K-Rethug should shout it louder. Will bring more attention to "what they're afraid of!" Don't see how Fitz can not know, when it's all over the place out here.

[fooj]

96. They pose as Republicans.

These imposters are not fit to call themselves Americans, IMO. The rat bastards have a definite agenda. That agenda is evil. Pure evil.

Peace.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

98. They can't fire him, so they're left with trying to smear him....

...and most people have gotten wise to the games the NeoCons are playing.

This Roberts hearing will backfire....because Fitz can call him to testify to the Grand Jury to find out who told Roberts to investigate Fitz and why. If Fitz learns from Roberts, or anyone else, that Roberts was trying to slow down the operations of the Grand Jury, Roberts can be charged with obstruction of justice.

[ailsagirl]

118. And if they can't find anything to smear him with, they'll just make

it up!! No problem!!

Those guys are certifiable. :crazy:
:puke:

[LSparkle]

14. I hear Fitz has nothing in his closet -- he's a prosecutor's prosecutor

If they try and slime him, there will be hell to pay from people even within their own party.

Wonder if this is the beginning of the Rethugs' civil war: the conservatives vs. the fundie/neocons/whatever the BFEE has devolved into.

[FreedomAngel82]

88. Oh wouldn't that be a show!!

Seems to be that way. It will be interesting to see who is left in the Senate and Congress who are republicans next year.

[Imagevision]

16. Watch what Limbaugh-Hannity-Laura Ingrams makes out of this!

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

17. Didn't mehlman praise Fitz on MTP two weeks ago?

I guess the repubs aren't quite as fond of him as they once were.

MKJ

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

43. I just had to start a thread with the mehlman transcript...

it clearly shows how the worm turns. MKJ

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1956534&mesg_id=1956534

[FreedomAngel82]

89. I think it's so pathetic

One minute they're praising a guy and saying how great he is etc. but when things go wrong for them they turn around and bash him. Each man for themselves and/or to protect Bush. Whoever isn't on Bush's side is a traitor and all that. :eyes: I hope Fitzgerald stays safe and his family is protected if he has one.

[LSparkle]

18. Gee, maybe they should investigate why P. Roberts never did

what he said he'd do -- complete the investigation into what THE ADMINISTRATION DID with the Iraq intelligence information. So far, they've checked into the CIA and branded them as incompetent; why don't they turn their microscopes on the White Haus and what was DONE with the intel?

[Starfury]

19. Wow, this really IS Watergate 2.....n/t

[leesa]

121. Oh no! This is MUCH, MUCH worse.

[geek tragedy]

20. Time for the Dems on the committee to grow some gonads.

If they don't speak up, they're accomplices.

[Supersedeas]

68. Exactly...time to Senate Dems to stand up to this petty bull

[fooj]

97. Yep. Time to demand accountability!

Peace.

[peacetalksforall]

21. Sen Roberts is STUPID. Senator, subtract the time the investigation

was closed down waiting for the court appeals by the journalists because they did not want to testify (some of them, that is). We're here now because the courts turned down the appeals.

So, Mr. Roberts, what to you want to do - demand or legislate that the grand jury must testify against him? Do you want one of the Intel Depts to investigate him. Do you want Dr. Frist to investigate him? Do you want Cheney to fire him.

Bring it on - because republicans don't seem to learn.

If you're going to do something - push for something as dramatic as Cox firing! Yeh hoo!

[KansDem]

29. You got that right!

Both of my senators are worthless PsOS. Roberts is pulling crap like this while writing Patriot II and Brownback is preparing a run for the White House in 2008 by running to the right of Shrub.

[Walt Starr]

23. Damn, I knew they would go after Fitzgerald, but this is

Ri-GODDAMN-diculous!

[brettdale]

26. They are going to start spinning

Yeepers, he must have so much on them.

[Walt Starr]

27. He has proof against Bush, that's the only explanation

and they damn well know it now.

The whole damned house of cards is about to come screaming down.

[lancdem]

41. They have to be scared shitless of what Fitz

has uncovered. Bring it on! :evilgrin:

[sellitman]

45. Those were my thoughts too.

"What did the president know and when did he know it?"

[FreedomAngel82]

90. I think so as well

Why else would they be going after him unless he had something very damaging??

[Media_Lies_Daily]

99. Bingo.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

100. Roberts better watch his step....he could get charged with....

...obstruction of justice.

[Lecky]

55. Agreed, it's pure insanity

I hope it backfires in all their faces.

[DanCa]

25. Pat better be careful these pieces of filth will go after his family

It's kind of like bringing down a mophia crime family isn't it?

[tavalon]

48. Forget the "kind of" DanCa

it is exactly like that. Luckily the spotlight is on them so they can't really suicide anyone right now, but planes malfunction, you know and trains get blown up by Al Queda and well, car accidents do happen.........................

And then there's the big, nay, huge 9/11 part two coming. I hope, I hope, I hope this mafia family can be brought down before the next terrorist attack.

[Lecky]

56. Worse than that

because the mafia has half of our nation's support!

[Peace Patriot]

101. "...the mafia has half of our nation's support!" Whoa, Nellie--not true!

Bush support: 42-44% (in news monopoly polls).

58% of Americans opposed the Iraq war BEFORE the invasion. I'll never forget that stat. Feb. 03. BEFORE all the lies got known.

63% of Americans oppose torture UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. May '04. To hell with Bush fearmongering. The great majority of Americans don't buy it.

You name the issue. Iraq. Torture. Social Security. The deficit. 60% to 70% of Americans oppose Bush policy.

Only 49% Bush approval on the very day of his inauguration--absolutely unprecedented for a recently "re-elected" 2nd term prez. Dismal approval over the last year--so bad Zogby said he couldn't win.

My estimate of the Kerry margin of victory in actual votes (not including suppressed votes)--taking into consideration all of the election fraud evidence--is about 10%. With suppressed votes, 15% or higher. My favorite: The Dems blew the Bushites away in new voter registration in 2004, nearly 60/40. We did win, you know--big time.

I think the stats are screaming at us: No "consent of the governed." Majority will has been thwarted. Illegitimate government. It's only a matter of time before the news monopolies are forced to ask: WHERE is Bush's support NOW? WHERE are Karl's Rove's "invisible" get-out-the-campaign voters NOW? (Gone with the wind...)

[grytpype]

28. This is a trick for the Repugs to grant immunity to Rove.

The Repugs are going to call Rove and his co-conspirators as witnesses, and they will want a broad grant of immunity from prosecution, and the Repugs will give it to them.

Voila. No more criminal liability for the Plame conspirators.

This country has been taken over by criminals. There's no other word for it.

The Dems had better be on the ball on this, and they had better block any immunity grants if they are able. Because if the Repugs get away with this there will be no limit to their criminality.

[Postman]

32. Checks and Balances. Remember that lesson from gov't civics?

This country is not safe from dictatorial gov't.

All three branches of gov't controlled by the right-wing.

A mainstream press more concerned about "getting access" to spew propaganda than digging up the truth, thus exposing the citizenry to tyranny of the majority in gov't.

[Zorbuddha]

30. They'll probably spend $50b looking into his Arkansas land deals

and see if they can find a blue dress.

[wurzel]

31. The ONLY thing that will stop this is the Media.

Unless this media starts acting with some concern for this country it will keep getting worse. The Media must be forced to cover this stuff. On all four Network "News" tonight there was not a single mention of Rove. E-Mails my friends E-mails.

[Postman]

37. Maybe the CIA has a voice too?

I don't think there will be too many happy campers at CIA if these criminals go unpunished for putting our country and agents in the field in potential danger.

The political climate that the rightwing has created has made it more difficult for CIA case officers to recruit potential agents in foreign countries for fear they may be exposed by political operatives in this country looking to cover their asses from possible crimes.

[Lecky]

59. Haven't the neocons done their best to rid of any dissenters in the CIA?

[wurzel]

62. It isn't the voice. It is the megaphone. And the Media owns it.

If the media doesn't report it, it never happened.

[kestrel91316]

81. CIA has a voice - it goes "bang bang"!

[Auntie Bush]

105. Let's hope it goes bang ,bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang!

[ray of light]

70. my email and lte...

Since 9-11, we've been bombarded with flags on lapels and the chorus of, "Support our troops and support President Bush or you're unpatriotic."

And we chose to believe our President would not lie to us. Soon after we heard of a U.S. Spy whose name was made public by someone in the White House, yet for years nothing was done and no criminal charges were made. Now, three years later, the Mr. Fitzgerald, the federal prosecutor, has discovered that the Vice-President's office and Karl Rove were the original sources of this treasonous leak. Today, we discovered that John Aschcroft allowed Alberto Gonzalez to inform Andrew Card (W.H. Chief of Staff) 12 hours early that the Department of Justice was investigating this illegal act. This means the white house had twelve hours advance notice to hide the evidence before the investigation began.

So, you might be thinking, "It's politics, and it doesn't effect me."

However, that is not true. I heard testimony UNDER OATH from CIA operatives who say, "NEVER BEFORE HAS A PRESIDENT CHOSEN POLITICAL GAIN OVER THE PROTECTION OF HIS CITIZENS. FOR THREE YEARS, YOUR NATIONAL SECURITY AND YOUR SAFETY HAS BEEN DESTROYED BY YOUR PRESIDENT."

I have called my Representative to ask for an investigation into possible treason. Please call your's too.

It's not about Political Parties; it's about my security and yours!

[wurzel]

103. Kick

[nookiemonster]

33. Have we reached the "Overreach" yet?????

I certainly hope so. :silly:

[Gay Green]

60. IMO we won't reach the "Overreach"

until the US invades Britain. :grr: :mad: :nuke:

[nookiemonster]

66. Really. Harboring terrorists and all....

EXTREME :sarcasm:

[ThomWV]

34. Its A Shot Over The Bow

Look, Fitzgerald will be done in 99 days. That isn't enough time for Congress to get its ass in gear. So all this is, when you look at it from a Rovian point of view, is a shot over the bow to let Fitzgeral know the White House is still out there and not to be trifeled with. The Congress in this case is Bush's Water Boy once again.

[ScamUSA.Com]

35. the grand jury is done in october

but does that mean Fitz is done?

[hvn_nbr_2]

36. Saturday Night Massacre or Preemptive Pardon Party?

One or the other is gonna happen soon. Unless they think they can slime him sufficiently. But at least a few in the press seem to have come out of their collective coma recently. I suspect the press awakening is really a result of Operation Mockingbird being activated. F***ing with the CIA was a bad idea.

[Supersedeas]

107. the trick dick dirty tricks squad re-unites

[unblock]

38. my white house sources tell me fitz's wife is an undercover agent

and he's only prosecuting the leak because she double secret dared him.

[applegrove]

39. Yup! They will take their majority in Congress and impose a "New Reality"

on top of the Fitzgerald investigation. Think of all the propaganda that will be spewed on the news.

I wonder if Wilson will be a target of the investigation for "leaking" the truth on Niger Yellowcake?

[peacetalksforall]

42. If Dems allow them to do anything to this investigation, if Dems lie

down and roll over, we are done for and it is time to split away from fanatics and country destroyers.

[sellitman]

44. These Repukes are like cockaroaches

You shine the light on one and they all go scurrying about, hide for a bit and then return twice as nasty as before.

[wli]

46. why not filibuster this?

I'm not sure if that would work, but hey, if it does, why not?

[H2O Man]

47. Great.

They will look pretty badly for trying to make this a partisan issue.

[notadmblnd]

49. We all knew the attack on Fitzgerald would soon commence

but I'm thinking, they want to noe around a little so they can leak back to the WH.

[Imagevision]

57. Fitzgerald may get really pissed off having them make accusations

If I was the pugs I'd wait it out and really not piss Fitz off too much!!

[pacalo]

85. I agree!

I wonder how Fitzgerald will handle this.

[Lecky]

50. In a way, this is good because it shows how scared and corrupt they are

Must people with a functioning brain will be able to see through this.

(I hope)

[Auntie Bush]

106. Don't count on it! The people that voted for bush are too stupid.

You need brains to see through their lies/shit. They have forgotten how to think for themselves because their "higher ups" tell them what to do, what to say, what they believe and who to vote for!

[Gay Green]

51. Pubs must really hate America

and wish to bring Death To America and (in their vain imaginations of their wicked, deceitful little hearts - if any) wish to replace it with Bush-uh-murrikkkah.

[jillan]

52. Doesn't seem to be any dirt on him, plus

he was appointed in 9/2001.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Fitzgerald

on edit: it took the senate less than 1 month to approve him:applause:

[Imagevision]

53. Pubs must be making a lot of cash on Iraq

[goodboy]

54. didn't Nixon try the same thing? (nt)

[Zero Division]

58. Pat Roberts, criminal accomplice

Who didn't see something like this coming? I'd imagine Fitzgerald already has. Hopefully he's figured out something effective to fight their attempts to obstruct justice.

[Stirk]

61. Thanks for putting this story back in the news, Mr. Roberts!

And the Watergate-esque attempt to destroy the investigation makes it even more interesting.

[hang a left]

63. They are not saying that they want to investigate Fitzgerald

They are saying they want to "review his probe". Well I'll bet they would. They want to know how far and wide is the net. I don't think they can get any information on the investigation until it is concluded. At least I hope not. I'd say that Mr. Fitzgerald should wrap things up here in the next 30 days. Hopefully he doesn't need Miller to finish. Hopefully he has a nice indictment all wrapped up for her to.

Then I have no problem with them reviewing Fitzgerald's probe. They will have plenty of time to do that during the impeachment hearings.

What say you?

[jbnow]

69. I don't know what it means

to "review" the probe. What right do they have to look into Grand Jury proceedings, what would they have the right to look at. What does it even imply? Doubts it is legitimate or being done correctly or what?

If congress has that right I wish they had saved us all from starr's delight in sexual details .

[hang a left]

73. I am thinking it might mean.....

that after indictments are handed down. Roberts Inc. may want to have his own investigation. They have hearings, with alot of them being closed of course. Ultimately disclose to the world that there was no wrong doing. I am just speculating. I don't pretend to understand the motivation for the posturing. It certainly does keep the issue in the news again tonight, when there hasn't been any today.

I could go off on some tinfoil theories that I constantly think of but I will just spare everyone and keep my delusions to myself.

Everything is so corrupt these days. Who really knows what is going to happen.

[Pallas180]

75. They don't dare try it! The comparison to Nixon Saturday Nite Massacre

is too close and fresh in the minds of people my age!!!!

And I do believe we are the majority right now....those baby boomers
he's trying to do out of social security.

If they dismiss Fitzgerald or try to diminish his work anyway there'll be some uprising - and first by the media...you can bet on it

The media is in payback mode for all the crap they've had to take for the past 5 years....if they didn't grovel or if they asked a REAL question they were sent to the back of the room and ignored like
Helen.

Of course, I have to agree, they are stupid enough to try it...and then I think ALL of America will be demanding impeachment

[kestrel91316]

82. Their idea of reviewing the probe is .................

to get ahold of all secret GJ testimony transcripts so they can scheme and plot and conspire to do even MORE obstructing of justice.

[FreedomAngel82]

92. Is he really supposed to be done in thirty days?

[journalist3072]

67. A little history lesson...

This is not the first time that the Repugs have gone after one of their own, when they feel they aren't towing the partisan line.

Robert Fiske is a perfect example of that. Remember, Robert Fiske was the Whitewater Indepedent Counsel before Ken Starr. And as he was doing about his investigation, the independent counsel statue was getting ready to expire, and needed to be re-newed.

He wrote a preliminary report that said he had found NO wrong-doing by the Clintons. The Repugs didn't like it, so replaced him Ken Starr.

So this is nothing new.

[Pallas180]

76. Then Fitz better bring in those indictments before time is up - & then he'

get more time on demand of the dems.

[journalist3072]

78. Agreed!!

[FreedomAngel82]

93. I think it's so shameful

Really telling of their characters.

[ailsagirl]

71. I heard they're investigating the scientists who warn about global

warming.

It's beyond insane. Sometimes words fail me.

[G_j]

87. that is actually true, in case anyone thought it was a joke

went looking for a link, but couldn't find it.
I heard the story on NPR last week.

But was there ever an investigation of the doctored documents on the air quality at ground zero? no

[journalist3072]

115. I wish I could say I'm surprised...

But I'm not. They are beyond belief.

[ailsagirl]

117. I think Jeanne (sp?) Garofalo said it well tonight on The Majority

Report. I'm paraphrasing. Words to the effect that all of
the bush crime family's decisions are based on cruelty.

Absolutely on-target.

Yes, they are beyond belief. But I believe in karma.
:evilgrin:

And I fervently hope that they get back what they've put
into this world. Or, I should say, what they've TAKEN out
of this world.

[TankLV]

72. And so it begins...

[SoCalDem]

74. George W. Nixon

:)

[Literate Tar Heel]

79. clearly...

investigating wrongdoing by the White House gives "aid and comfort to our enemies" so I suppose they could always have him declared an "enemy combatant" and give him a one-way all expenses paid trip to lovely Club Gitmo (I hear it's beautiful this time of year)

[Auntie Bush]

80. And you get fruit with every meal.

[FreedomAngel82]

94. Don't forget a prayer rug and Quran

[gardenista]

83. Excellent news! They are worried now!

Seriously, people, this is some of the best news I've heard in a long time.

[deadparrot]

84. Buisiness as usual for the GOoP.

Does Fitzgerald have a non-white adopted daughter that they can smear in memory of their leader Rove?

[lovuian]

86. This is a good sign that Fitzgerald is on our side!!!

The must be dying!!!

[converted_democrat]

102. ...

[lapislzi]

104. Place your bets here, folks

Saturday Night Massacre just in time for Friday News Dump? Anybody wanna give me odds?

[Lannes]

108. I believe most of us here knew something like this was coming

It was a matter of time.

[Oreo]

110. Curiouser and Curiouser

For some reason, that phrase keeps ringing in my head when I read about this case! ;)

[ailsagirl]

119. It's been "Through the Looking Glass" for some time now.

:crazy:

[BamaBecky]

111. THEY just want to find out WTF Fitzgerald KNOWS !!!!! n/t

[lovuian]

112. kick

:kick:

[paineinthearse]

114. John Conyers blogged about this today

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1958612

[metisnation]

116. the guy that outed Ryan

this is payback for sure...he convicted george ryan (R) for the licences for bribes scandal. He has integrity without doubt. I am from Illinois and I watch things here very closely from a birds eye view.

[barb162]

120. I said a few weeks ago this would happen because the right

will go after anyone if the person attacks them in any way.