I Want To Move A Shitload Of Atheists To The Same State. We Can Take Over!

[DistressedAmerican]

The Fundies have already taken South Carolina as a first round draft choice. They plan on moving there in droves as I hears it. Guess they'll be doing the reverse wagon train route from Kansas...

So, I desire to lay claim to a good non-God fearing state. Where's a simple atheist can lay down some roots without some damn fundie sneaking up and trying to pull the constitution out from under him.

In these days of strict construction, I see the wisdom of occupying one state in droves. State's Rights is all the rage. So, If we have a state of our own, we'll have rights.

Just like our founding fathers envisioned or so I hear tale.

I have always been a supporter of federal control over individual states going off and banning books and abortions and such. But, I have to move on.

I thought desegregation was good. But hey, "Feds get out" is the cry we hear in Washington these days. So, I am prepared to roll with the punches.

So this is my open call. Put in your bid to become the atheist capital of the country. If you do not live in the state you'd prefer, where would you like to be?

What state should we all move to (sorry South Carolina...)? Just as importantly, why the hell should we all go there?

I have a few favorites. All warm places with good places to party in mind.

I hereby open the floor to nominations (bangs gavel).

[donco6]

1. Please, Please Colorado! They don't outnumber us by much!

You can tip the scales against Dobson! Think of the impact! Lives changed! World powers crumble! Jesus comes back! It could all happen!

[gmoney]

2. Should border Canada...

...make it easier to secede.

[DistressedAmerican]

5. What about Mexico? We Can Join Them TOO!

I Know Some Folks.

They'd put us up!

[Greyhound]

53. I'm not sure living under the Mexican Gov would be much improvement. n/t

[barb162]

89. Are you sure

They tend to be a bit on the Catholic side

[NorCalDem]

3. Cali

but it's a much to obvious of a choice, so I won't even attempt the sales pitch. Can someone top sunshine and good weather ALL THE TIME!

[hobbit709]

10. I won't live in places

where the ground moves or the mountains smoke. I've seen both-no thanks.

[Bassic]

60. And earthquakes!

Hey wait that's bad...:wtf:

[Xipe Totec]

4. Kansas! Poke them in the eye!

:thumbsup:

[KansDem]

11. Yeah, Kansas. Really!

We have a tourist information center on I-70 just inside the border with Missouri where you can get free coffee and maps!

So what are you waiting for?

[Xipe Totec]

13. Kansas, Yay!

[proud2BlibKansan]

29. There's also that big ball of twine

out west and Garden of Eden in Lucas. And plenty of sunflowers for everyone.
Oh and how can I forget Lawrence? Best city in the midwest.

[KansDem]

90. Yeah, "The Garden of Eden..."

Where you can see the rotting corpse of the founder. Yea, Kansas!


Dinsmoor had prepared for the day of his demise, building a 40-foot-high limestone mausoleum in one corner of his garden. When he died, he was embalmed and put on display. Even after 60+ years you can look through his glass-sided coffin and see the moldering creator of this heavenly splendor.

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/KSLUCeden.html

In case you ever wondered what "moldering" meant.

[proud2BlibKansan]

100. He also dug up his wife's body

to bury her where he wanted after the town had denied him permission. They then let her stay where Dinsmoor had buried her.

He was one fascinating dude. This is one of the neatest places in Kansas.

[atommom]

67. Yeah! Get some atheists on our school board, and kick Phill Kline

to the curb!

:popcorn:

[bunkerbuster1]

71. Perfect choice. I'd be happy to reunite with my childhood home

although I'm not really an atheist, to most "Christians" I'm close enough.

[theHandpuppet]

94. Oh yeah, Kansas... where we can collectively die of ennui

There's such thing as making a point... and such a thing as cutting off your nose to spite your face. At least let's migrate to a place where people WANT to go.

[proud2BlibKansan]

101. You have obviously never visited

the Sunflower State. There are many unknown wonders here. I have been here 50 years and I am not bored yet.

[bryant69]

6. I don't know if there is anystate

That would really be enthusiastic about being known as the Atheist state.I mean the locals would probably have an opinion.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[DistressedAmerican]

7. It is all in the numbers. Just out vote their asses!

What are there no atheists in South Carolina that don't want to be the fundie capital of the country?

[RagAss]

9. Nevada.....well Vegas anyway...

[TankLV]

37. Sorry - more churches per capita here than most other places.

Thought I read we have the most.

Anybody have any hard data?

[Kerrytravelers]

8. Take over a red state.

Blue states don't care if you go to church or not. Go to fundy heaven and take over. Hell, take over Texas, home of the fakest christian of them all... little w.

[SammyWinstonJack]

12. Kewl!

That means I wouldn't have relocate.

[Greyhound]

51. ugh, please not TX. Too much of it is horrible, and we'd have to occupy

the whole state, or they'd gerrymander us out of power. :evilfrown:

[Jawja]

66. North Carolina

or Tennessee. Beautiful states.

[Kazak]

68. Yeah, take over Oklahoma!!

:D

Remember when the election returns started coming in for the '04 election, and just after we got the results from the states on the far east coast, Oklahoma stuck out there like a big red sore thumb? Take that from them...their wild card, their trump, their ace-in-the-hole, snatch it away. Plus, I'd love to hear the reaction from the fundies who run rampant in this state.

[sinkingfeeling]

14. I vote for Minnesota..it does get really cold there!

[tnlefty]

15. If you'll consider people who also FIRMLY believe in separation

of church and state:

I would like to nominate the state of TN. Before you have a fit laughing consider that there are many people here who believe in the separation of church and state. I don't like the fundies trying to force their brand of "christianity" down my throat and I know many people who are sick of it. If you were to move here in mass, perhaps the fundies would actually freak and move, and then this state could get on about the business of having serious, grown-up conversations about issues that truly matter!

Humbly submitted for your consideration.

[DistressedAmerican]

21. Personally, I Can See It. But, You'd Have To Run It By The New Legistature

to be sure.

I would not put it past some of our most vocal among us to call for a ban. However, you have my word that as long you you keep yourselves within modest percentages, you would have my support.

Please keep in mind that when the new constitution is finally drafted you may only count as 2/3 of a person for census purposes. I think you still get to own land though.

Of course it goes without saying that is the deal for all states.

States! We can do any old crazy shit we want!

[proud2BlibKansan]

30. There is also all that

homemade whiskey :)

[dweller]

32. seconded

then you guys take over NC, starting from the west.

dp

[Greyhound]

52. TN is a good choice, beautiful, fertile, mild weather, I'll go. n/t

[Dr.Phool]

16. Florida

We have beaches galore, fishing, best bird species anywhere, and we even have a few panthers left to feed the fundies to. Not enough, but we have plenty of gators for back-ups.

[theHandpuppet]

93. Sorry, no flat places

Florida is flatter than my sister's bosom. No Kansas or Florida for me!

Besides, I like a place that has more than one season. NC would be nice -- lovely beaches for those who want them, mountains for the rest of us.

[GreenPartyVoter]

17. Well I was gonna ask the Greens to come to Maine, but why don't

you guys come too? (The atheistic greens will have to excuse the double invitations.)

[raysr]

18. I'm in!!!!!!!

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

19. If you don't choose Hawaii, then atheists are extremely myopic.

Hawaii, people, Hawaii.

And don't complain about the cost of living; you'll run the joint. And I've always wanted to live with atheists. You aren't a bunch of iconoclasts are you?

[Sooner75]

25. hmmmm....Hawaii

I was going to suggest New Mexico which is an amazing place, not a lot of people for its size,etc.

But, Hawaii -- now there's a thought! Such an incredibly beautiful place and the chance to see conservative tourists exposed to a political climate contrary to their tastes. Seems that Hawaii is already more than halfway there.

[KamaAina]

103. Fundies starting to run rampant here, alas

repuke Lt. Gov. is on record as stating "Hawaii belongs to Jesus", which will come as news to, among others, the people who just started the first Buddhist high school in the country. Meanwhile mid-size Honolulu has, at last count, no fewer than four fundie TV stations (one sometimes has real programming, but the other three are hellfire and brimstone 24/7), and no Buddhist or other stations. Perhaps an influx would do us some good!

Cost of living is not as off the charts as it once was before the arrival of big-box stores. Real estate is pretty rough, but consider the east side of the island of Hawai'i (the "Big Island"), around Hilo. South of there in particular are miles and miles of lots that were carved up years ago as speculative developments, Florida-style, and are only now starting to really develop.

Oh, and could you bring Lance Armstrong (who is rumored to be one of you)? He could start a cycling academy out here on our miles of mountain trails.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

20. BONUS: You get to vote against man-on-dog

Come to Pennsylvania: Beautiful landscape, 4 distinct seasons, lots of friendly and intelligent people(*), and, as an added bonus, you help us take down Santorum in 06.:D

(*) intelligence not found in all areas.

[DistressedAmerican]

22. THAT Would Be A Pleasure And I Grew Up In OIL CITY. About half way

between pittsburg and erie...

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

33. Does that mean PA wins the contest

Act now! and we'll provide a link to the PA voter registration site to get you processed in time to vote AGAINST Santorum in the 06 Senate race.;)

DistressedAmerican: I know where Oil City is. I'm in a northern suburb of Pittsburgh. Hey, and you forgot the h in Pittsburgh...tsk, tsk.

[DistressedAmerican]

38. Well, I Was thinking About It But You Were Not Tolerant Of My Terrible

spelling. So...

[wli]

23. Queen Maud Land

After a bit of global warming it'll be temperate while the rest is desert.

[DistressedAmerican]

39. Had to Look That One Up. In Case Your Geography Is Also Lacking

Dronning Maud Land
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
(Redirected from Queen Maud Land)
Dronning Maud Land (or Queen Maud Land) is the part of Antarctica lying between 20°W and 45°E, with a land area of approximately 2,500,000 km², mostly covered by the Antarctic ice sheet. This territory was claimed by Norway on January 14, 1939, but this claim, like all others in the Antarctic, is not universally recognized and the area is subject to the terms of the Antarctic Treaty. The other antarctic territory claimed by Norway is Peter I Island.

Dronning Maud Land was named by Roald Amundsen in honour of Queen Maud of Norway.


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[wli]

102. the idea is that after a few rounds of global warming it'll be nice

Particularly compared to overheated areas elsewhere.

There were dinosaurs on Antarctica while it was in polar position. It wasn't because reptiles had adapted to freezing cold climates, either.

[Ladyhawk]

24. California. I love it here. n/t

[European Socialist]

26. I'm an Athiest....

and I would be happy in a state full of 1960's republicans.

[proud2BlibKansan]

27. Somewhere with a beach

and no winter would be nice too.

[kliljedahl]

28. Colorado and New Mexico

Love the mountains & the desert. Why stop at one state? We're not as myopic as he fundies.


Keith’s Barbeque Central

[DistressedAmerican]

31. DENSITY!!! Strength Is Based On Numbers.

Show me a 65% nmajority in one state and we can start talking about two.

[Ysolde]

34. I'm not an Atheist, but can I come anyway?

I LOVE the Hawaii idea, but it's already pretty Progressive, isn't it? Shouldn't we aim for somewhere that's RED? New Mexico and Colorado are moving BLUE, so they'd be nice to get to BLUE faster, but I think you need to take out TX, OK, KS, or MO. Get a nice big BLUE state in the middle of the RED.

[Race4Peace]

35. The problem with taking over in the BB is

It's such a damn oven down here! uninhabitable! quite roomy, though...

[TankLV]

36. They can move to Atlantis!

[MissB]

40. Oregon is already the most unchurched state

so it seems rather natural. Plus, it is beautiful and all that.

[me b zola]

42. I vote for Oregon as well...

:loveya:

[DistressedAmerican]

41. Kicker!

[texanwitch]

43. Hell, I go. It would be a little piece of heaven to be away from

all the Jeebus people.

A lot of witches will go with you.

[klyon]

55. the witches I know believe in many gods

so they are not invited

KL

[texanwitch]

96. Living in Texas I can tell you that a lot of Jeebus folks here can't see

a big difference in any non-jeebus people, we are all the same to them. We would need to have connections with other non-jeebus groups, strength in numbers.

I have a mix of friends of various non-jeebus believes, and there are a lot of us. We could control the country if we really wanted to. We just have to get together, which is hard for liberals because we think for ourselves.

[Taxloss]

63. I refer you to my suggestion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4190379&mesg_id=4193287

Highest Wiccan/Druid population (by proportion) as well. But you would be under the protection of the Godless atheists.

[Warren DeMontague]

44. Fuckit, Lets all go to South Carolina, TOO.

http://christianexodus.org/

Might be interesting.

[chaska]

91. LOL! Yeah, torment the hell out of the new interlopers...

but count me out, I just left the place (born there). NO desire to return.

[Hello_Kitty]

45. Just tell me where and I'll be there!

And no more stupid religious holidays either. Everyone gets floating holidays like I get on my job. You get 10 days off a year (in addition to whatever vacation you have) to use as you see fit. Of course, they won't be called holidays anymore since that's a religious term.

What will we call our floating days off? Floating Days Off is fine for now but I'd like to see us come up with something catchier.

[Tactical Progressive]

46. Umm, just a matter of semantics

I suppose you could say 'a flock of lions' or 'a pride of birds', but that's not really correct. I'm not typically language nanny but both Atheists and Democrats travel in busloads, trainloads and planeloads.

You're thinking of Republicans. They travel in shitloads.

Even when they travel alone.

[DistressedAmerican]

58. LOL! Funny!

:rofl:

[Bluebear]

47. Nevada

They already think Las Vegas is a den of iniquity. Let's revel in it.

[EFerrari]

48. What about we move to a state and call it "Privacy"?

And I won't tell you what to believe, and won't try to shove my beliefs at you AS FACTS.

I could get into that wagon train. :)

[Swamp Rat]

49. I wish we were in a State of Peace.

[EFerrari]

56. en acuerdo.

[DistressedAmerican]

59. Filthy Hippie! Get A Job!

[Swamp Rat]

97. LOL!

:kick:

[Greyhound]

50. Someplace with nice weather please.

Washington is close to Canada, has the Pacific, half the State has mild winters. Georgia is very nice too, hot in the summer, but really beautiful, and it would really piss-off most of the current inhabitants. :evilgrin:

[klyon]

54. Virginia

so we can really rub their noses in it, make Richmond our capital

also close to DC

KL

[Modem Butterfly]

57. I nominate the great state of CASCADIA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia

Free people, free minds, free state!

[Tesha]

73. Anywhere in Cascadia/Ecotopia is fine. Vermont's pretty nice, too. (NT)

[Taxloss]

61. How about the United Kingdom? I'm serious.

I'm very serious. Let's take the absolute lowest estimates of the number of US Atheists and US population - 7% of 250,000,000 (both figures are probably higher).

That gives us 17,500,000 Atheists - a small country in itself.

Now, consider the UK. Population 60,000,000, with 17% Atheist - that's a further 10,200,000 atheists.

If the 17.5m US Atheists moved to to the UK, the UK would have 27,700,000 Atheists in a population of 77,500,000 - 35.7%.

Labour won the last election with 37% of the vote.

Crude sums, but an exodus to the UK would give you control not of a state but of a Nation State - nuclear arsenal, seat on the UN security council, good beer ...

[beam me up scottie]

64. I vote for the UK !!!

Great beer, literature and music !
What more do you need ?

[DistressedAmerican]

69. I Like Where You Are going With This. Can We Arrange Some Tax Credits For

us religious (or non as the case may be) refugees? We will need a leg up. The dollar has been ravaged by the chimp!

[Taxloss]

72. Well that's a practicality that would need to be discussed.

[OnionPatch]

62. How can you think of any other state than

California!!! Yeah!! We'd make an awesome country! And they'll be a whole lot more room down here in southern CA once all the fundies move to South Carolina.

I like to joke, but I'm dead serious. If there were a movement for California to secede, I'd be there in a minute. (As long as it's a leftie movement.)

[Freedomfried]

65. Just change one states religious tax exemption

cancel the church’s tax break see how fast they'll leave that state.

[youthere]

70. Think about Iowa...

Politically, we're what I like to call a "borderline" state if we go red or blue it's always by a small margin (unfortunately we went red in the last election)-so it's pretty evenly split. We're one of those states that goes on under the radar, meaning-no one pays any attention to Iowa except during the caucuses-so it would be fairly easy to slowly gain power here.It won't last long though...unfortunately the fundies are doing this very same thing here...slowly taking over. In my area right now, within a ten mile radius we've had about 11 of these "bible fellowships" spring up. Help us please! I'm begging all the atheists and agnostics out there...consider Iowa. Remember it's home to: Grant Wood,plenty of hogs and corn, the original Maid-rite sandwich, Hawkeye football, some of the nicest people you'd ever want to meet, Missouri river on one side and the Missippi on the other- PLUS we eat more Jell-o and order more Playboy than any other state. Jell-o, Hogs, and Playboy...no wonder the fundies love it here.

[Bridget Burke]

74. How will you get rid of the non-Atheists in the state you pick?

Kill them? Deport them & confiscate their property?

Not all religous folk are evil. Not all Atheists are good.

What about those of us who have decent lives (& obligations) where we live now? Living in Texas has taught me not to fear the Religious Idiots. Perhaps you need to work on your courage.

[Modem Butterfly]

77. Why, we'll treat them as well as they've treated us

They'll be barred from holding public office, prevented from testifying in court or sitting on juries, they'll be fired from their jobs if found out, they'll become a public symbol for the very worst society has to offer.

No, wait, too many of us are humanists to let that happen.

[youthere]

83. I'm tellin' you...come to Iowa...

I'll vote for you!

[DistressedAmerican]

81. No plan to do so. Just flood the state and out vote them.

The fundies are not ejecting non-fundies from SC. Just out voting them.

Nice try.

Thanks for TRYING to paint me as a religious bigot.

Do atheists all equate to hate mongering bigots to you?

[Bridget Burke]

82. I'm an atheist, myself.

But I don't automatically agree with every idea espoused by another atheist.

I didn't use the phrase "hate mongering bigot" even once.

[DistressedAmerican]

84. No You Just Asked If I Had Plans To Kill Non-Atheists

That wouldn't be hateful or bigoted. :sarcasm:

How about you apologize for the implication that I would want to kill folks for their religious beliefs when there is no such implication in my OP?

[Bridget Burke]

86. Congratulations on allowing non-Atheists to live.

There are more subtle ways to bring about ideological purity.

[Modem Butterfly]

87. Subtlety? Ideological purity?

What the fuck? I mean, what the fucking fuck?

I think it's a great idea for atheists to move into one state, at least as far as ideas go. But getting all atheists to agree to anything is slightly more difficult than herding cats. It doesn't even guarantee tha the state will become more blue, since, GASP, some atheists vote Republican.

I can't imagine anything less ideologically pure than a room full of atheists. But it would be an entertaining crowd!

[DistressedAmerican]

88. Would You Please Tell Me Where You Get All Of This Hostility?

Have you even read these posts? Where are you seeing anything about ideological purity from me?

Have you even heard about the fundie drive on SC? Do you not get that none of us are actually going anywhere?

This is satire to point out how stupid the whole idea is.

What are you missing? Or have I hit some personal nerve you'd like to explain?

You are the only person on this entire thread that does not seem to get the freaking joke...

You could seriously stand to get over yourself.

[raccoon]

75. Move A Shitload Of Atheists To South Carolina.

BRING 'EM ON!

[Sooner75]

99. if it's South Carolina....

you'd better make that 2 or 3 shitloads of atheists.

[raccoon]

104. that's good! nt

[MamaBear]

76. Me, too, please!

Anywhere! Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Washington, California, Kansas ... they all sound beautiful to me. Or, you could all come to New York and we could liberate St. Patrick's cathedral ... although the people who run St. John the Divine are so cool I think I'd let them be.

[Goldmund]

78. I'd rather live in a tolerant environment than in an ideologically pure...

...one.

I'm just fine here in NYC. Ocasionally I get one of those freaks come to my door, but that's cool -- they say "God gave you a wonderful body", I say "thank you, I've been working out", we laugh and that's that.

[The Great Deceiver]

79. can't we just occupy san francisco

declare it an independent state, and then immediately secede from the union? we're almost there, anyway. and the weather's perfect. just let's all move to the bedrock and let the next few major quakes envelop all the parts that are built on fill, i.e., the Marina and the Financial District, both parts of the city that I wouldn't miss anyway.

:shrug:

[The Great Deceiver]

80. that or MD

my home state :evilgrin:

it is very pretty there, too. and blue!

[JaneQPublic]

85. I always wondered what the Collective term for athiests was.

So, apparently, it's a:

-- A gaggle of geese

-- A pack of hounds

-- A pride of lions

-- And a shitload of athiests.

[chaska]

92. You know, seriously....

we are already segregating ourselves, left and right, slowly but surely. People are moving to places that better suit their beliefs.

I say we concentrate on VT, WA, OR. Burlington, VT would be my fave. Great little city, near the Canadian border. Pretty cold though.

[MsTryska]

95. Florida....

lots of electoral votes.

any fundies living there that don't like it can move to South Carolina.

[info being]

98. Why don't we take cyberspace?

We can figure out how to survive and thrive in cyberspace, and then celebrate life together whenever possible in the real world.

[NuttyFluffers]

105. Delaware, Wyoming, or Alaska

you want Senators! besides each is like, what... barely above 1/2 mil each? Easy pickings. i'd say Delaware, you'd be close to washington, d.c. (to lobby), close to a big metro area (aka. safety and diversity), and you can change the laws of the state to castrate evil credit card companies.

after that i'd choose either wyoming, north or south dakota, or new hampshire. but i don't like the cold, and some are just really too open for me, but then i'm not an atheist. :D i'd say new hampshire, close to big cities and another 2 senators.